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Foreign or domestic, I would think we'd have a better handle on what's up there. Regardless of why they are there, we should know. Right?
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Walleye
(45,401 posts)What would Trump do if he were president now? He’d be making up some elaborate lie and have the pentagon repeat it.
dchill
(42,660 posts)Whether or not they will tell us - well - what do you think? You know, from past experience.
HereForTheParty
(915 posts)But what are the possible explanations they wouldn't want us to hear?
dchill
(42,660 posts)... military bases, because that was the beginning of the drone flap we're still, uh, processing. I'm pretty sure most of the "sightings" since then are misidentification of the mundane - airplanes and helicopters. But the initial reports of drones over Langley and Norfolk were reliably reported. As far as anyone can tell. China? Iran? Who can say?
Isn't JDAC2 supposed to "turn online" any moment now? In Q1/Q2 2025?
dchill
(42,660 posts)The new iteration is called CJADC2, adding "Combined."
LisaM
(29,685 posts)Unfortunately, there are plenty of children who like to play with these toys.
artemisia1
(1,908 posts)
Iggo
(50,049 posts)They’re getting bigger! 
LisaM
(29,685 posts)as "children".
S/V Loner
(9,561 posts)there is no way in hell that the military would not be all out investigating these flights. Who, what, where, when and why?
The lack of information to me screams Psyops.
HereForTheParty
(915 posts)By our government against us? What would be the purpose?
S/V Loner
(9,561 posts)I don't know but the military not knowing what is going on would not make any sense. Being mildly interested in unknown drones flying over military facilities would not happen. What is being put out there is not logical.
brakester
(623 posts)
AntiFascist
(13,756 posts)this is where the initial drone sightings were reported in the middle of November, long before the mass hysteria began. CBS recently reported a "drone landing" in Somerset County that was being investigated by police. When a firefighter was asked if anything was found he responded that he is not "at liberty" to discuss it. Very strange!
S/V Loner
(9,561 posts)you can bet it would be all hands on deck until the source was found.
vanessa_ca
(947 posts)I haven't tracked this very closely, but most seem to be happening in restricted airspace.
I googled to see if my assumption was correct and landed on this from 60 Minutes 3 years ago
We have tackled many strange stories on 60 Minutes, but perhaps none like this. It's the story of the U.S. government's grudging acknowledgment of unidentified aerial phenomena— UAP—more commonly known as UFOs. After decades of public denial the Pentagon now admits there's something out there, and the U.S. Senate wants to know what it is. The intelligence committee has ordered the director of national intelligence and the secretary of defense to deliver a report on the mysterious sightings by next month.
Bill Whitaker: So what you are telling me is that UFOs, unidentified flying objects, are real?
Lue Elizondo: Bill, I think we're beyond that already. The government has already stated for the record that they're real. I'm not telling you that. The United States government is telling you that.
Luis Elizondo spent 20 years running military intelligence operations worldwide: in Afghanistan, the Middle East and Guantanamo. He hadn't given UFOs a second thought until 2008. That's when he was asked to join something at the Pentagon called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, or "AATIP."
-snip-
Lue Elizondo: Imagine a technology that can do 6-to-700 g-forces, that can fly at 13,000 miles an hour, that can evade radar and that can fly through air and water and possibly space. And oh, by the way, has no obvious signs of propulsion, no wings, no control surfaces and yet still can defy the natural effects of Earth's gravity. That's precisely what we're seeing.
Read the article. It gets better.
S/V Loner
(9,561 posts)yourout
(8,872 posts)brakester
(623 posts)Sorry, he's not the white house resident yet!
PSPS
(15,376 posts)The FBI said today that, out of the 5,000 reports, only 100 warranted more investigation. In other words, 98% are people who are whipped into a frenzy because they see a plane on approach to an airport (and have probably been hittin' the jug.)
What's left, as far as I've seen, are blurry and shaky videos of the type used to "prove" bigfoot. Maybe they'll have a new installment of "alien autopsy" on Fox.
303squadron
(849 posts)It’s just Sky Elements, who came in a lousy 3rd in AGT voting this year, and they are pissed!
Or it could be Eloon’s brother who just happens to own a drone company.
BannonsLiver
(20,847 posts)They’re military. Get on with life.
Frasier Balzov
(5,102 posts)The point he is making is that the government we expect so much expertise and protection from is not up to the task.
And of course the government cannot admit that it is being played by one of our most favored technology leaders as a political stunt.
Naturally, Trump is in on the joke, and believes his power can only be increased by it when the truth is revealed.
alarimer
(17,146 posts)They don't always obey the rules. I also think their operators are just screwing with people now.
Mike 03
(18,690 posts)posted that there was zero possibility the Pentagon didn't know what these were, but if these really are the "Tic-Tac" UFOs that were discussed at length in 2021, then maybe they are telling the truth. I find it extremely hard to believe, but the people from Defense who would go on the record described them, IIRC, as not made by human beings and defying the known laws of physics. They discounted the possibility they were made by a foreign adversary.
But that only applies if these are the so-called Tic Tacs.
This becomes more fascinating by the day.
Emile
(43,241 posts)with a Jewish space laser to take care of them.
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brakester
(623 posts)when Big Daddy takes over and you get *disappeared* if you dare ask a question like that!
That's not to say, I think you are !!not!! damned right that we should have known a month ago!
ibegurpard
(17,081 posts)No it's not troubling.
I've had issues with the idea of them for years. Don't know why everyone's freaking out now.
RockRaven
(19,748 posts)and expecting the governor to account for every yahoo's tale is wildly unreasonable.
And secondly, anyone with even less than a hundred bucks can buy a drone off of Amazon. And dozens of different of these cheap quadcopters on Amazon claim thousands of units sold in the past month alone. There are probably millions of cheap drones in civilian hands all over the country. How the heck is the government supposed to account for every one that is actually seen?
Skittles
(172,833 posts)not so easy to track
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)artemisia1
(1,908 posts)they don't want to spook the public and tipoff the potential terrorists or bad state actors trying to smuggle/use such items. That explains a lot.