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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump trying to sic his filthy MAGAts on Judge Merchan:
Link to tweet
Any comments from the 'blame DU for the CEO getting shot peanut gallery'?
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,888 posts)Is chapping his hide and fragile ego.
Eat shit, Donnie!
My bad! You have been doing that!
no_hypocrisy
(54,888 posts)dchill
(42,660 posts)Progressive dog
(7,598 posts)is somehow related to a cold blooded murder by another deranged individual?
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)...it's plural because that insurance salesman guy murdered many, many people by denying them needed care.
Progressive dog
(7,598 posts)If he had, you could go to the police and turn him in,. That's the way criminal laws work. Juries decide based on something other than childish hatred.
If you think health insurers kill people, there are a hell of a lot of them still alive. IF enough get killed, what will you have then? Medicare is health insurance. Medicaid is health insurance.I have nothing but hatred for someone whose ego made him judge, jury, and executioner. Mangione is the worst kind of cold blooded murderer.
Notice that not one law enforcement official has ever arrested an insurance executive for murder and they never will as long as insurance exists.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)The insurance industry decision-makers have murdered people by denying them needed medical care, and many people realize just what you pointed out, that the inability of criminal law and law enforcement to protect people from that is forcing them to protect themselves.
Progressive dog
(7,598 posts)Every insurance company has coverage rules, including medicare. That is fact that you apparently don't care to know. What you are saying is that insurance companies must pay for whatever the doctor or poatient want. Most denials (by far) have no relation to life or death of the patient. Few are appealed and only a small percentage of appeals are granted.
So something not important enough for a patient to appeal is an excuse for murder in your eyes. Would you cheer on the murderer of complicit employees, too?
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)Progressive dog
(7,598 posts)so don't pretend it is fact. Second, almost no denials involve emergencies. Third, no one is forced to insure with UHC. How many lawsuits do you think have been brought against UHC for failure to pay for medical care? Any for wrongful death?
It must be a vast conspiracy to get away with killing all those peopl3e you imagine have died because of one man.
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(22,456 posts)"Gauging an exact number of claim denials is tricky, as theres no central repository of this data, insurance insights firm ValuePenguin told Forbes. But according to one of the firms reports on insurance claim denial rates, UHC has the highest instance of denials out of all major providers, refusing an estimated one-third of claims submitted. The insurer did not respond to a comment request." -https://www.forbes.com/sites/amyfeldman/2024/12/05/unitedhealthcare-denies-more-claims-than-other-insurers---angering-patients-and-health-systems/
https://www.valuepenguin.com/health-insurance-claim-denials-and-appeals
And you must know as well as anyone that people sign away litigation rights when purchasing the policy.
Progressive dog
(7,598 posts)been removed,
Dec. 6, 2024 Due to recent events, ValuePenguin removed certain data elements from this piece at the request of law enforcement.
If you would like more information about the analysis presented in this piece, please contact press@lendingtree.com.
On Dec. 5, 2024, one insurer contacted ValuePenguin claiming that the denial rate listed in this article is not consistent with their internal records.
We will update this article with more information as it is made available to us. Refer to our methodology below for additional sourcing information.
So VP admits that they have no proof of the data. They're waiting for the company's internal records.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)...other info pertaining to an unmention company has been rmoved.
The claim of UHG's 32% is still clearly listed in the chart further down the page.
Progressive dog
(7,598 posts)UHC did get 4 out of 5 Stars from the editors.
Editor's Rating
UnitedHealthcare (UHC) health insurance isn't usually the cheapest available, but plans include extra benefits and perks. Members generally like their plans. However, many people complain that they had to fight UHC for it to cover the medical care their doctor recommended
I wonder how many stars they'd get if it weren't for all the deaths they supposedly cause.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)...but that doesn't actually change the denial numbers, does it.
Progressive dog
(7,598 posts)but denial numbers don't prove anyone was murdered, does it? The company used customer reviews in the stars and according to them took customer complaints into account.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)...well I just don't know what to tell you.
Progressive dog
(7,598 posts)can prove it resulted in death and also whether a crime was committed. You don't execute people on he could have murdered someone and I know I can't prove it so I'll just kill him anyway.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)Progressive dog
(7,598 posts)I already understood that any old excuse would be OK since he was a health insurance executive.
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(22,456 posts)Progressive dog
(7,598 posts)happy feet
(1,278 posts)They assigned coverage by where you live-no choice among insurers as they had offered in the past.
Kingofalldems
(40,275 posts)He wants one of his cult to kill the judge in cold blood. Hope that helps.
Any comments by the way?
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)But this is par for the course. 😣
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)If not Trump directly executing his 'enemies', he will indirectly encourage his followers to do it.

Kingofalldems
(40,275 posts)bdamomma
(69,532 posts)just proves what a weak, evil, felon he is.
hmmm.... I am curious to see if he will pardon the J6 insurrectionists.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(2,020 posts)Really America, this fucking guy is who you want to "preside" over our 247 year old Nation. WTF. He's a goddamned loon.
C_U_L8R
(49,369 posts)It's a shame he's not rotting away in a dungeon somewhere.
Beachnutt
(8,905 posts)the conmans favorite weapon.
orangecrush
(30,212 posts)AKA "Health Insurance Industry" go immediately to my ignore list.
(Don't mean you.)
Scrivener7
(59,498 posts)Interestingly, some are the same ones who slithered out of the gungeon to shut down any talk of sensible gun laws after every single school shooting.
And now they're outraged.
Ironic, that.