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Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 02:55 PM Dec 2024

What does Elon Musk want?

He's the richest man on the planet. And he may very well become the world's first trillionaire. At some point, money is no longer the issue.

Does he want fame? He's already got it due t to Tesla, Space X, and his red Tesla Roadster making it's second trip around the sun. That seems to be sufficient to get him into the history books.

Does he want to be universally loved? That may be one of Trump's fantasies, but Musk knows it's ridiculous and impossible.

Does he want to be universally feared? That too many be a Trump fantasy. but why would Musk want that?

Does he want political power? All billionaires "own" politicians and have political power. Why would he want to paint a target on his back by becoming an active/practicing politician?

Is he as mentally deranged as Trump? Doesn't seem so. It's difficult to keep that degree of bugshit crazy hidden.

So again I ask, what does Elon Musk want from his current activities and relationship with Trump?

Any guesses?




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What does Elon Musk want? (Original Post) Cyrano Dec 2024 OP
Remember in the 80's, Trump used to be on all the covers of the tabloids? That's the only thing I can think of. LeftInTX Dec 2024 #1
Adoration. CentralMass Dec 2024 #2
He wants to be God, and he wants all of us to worship him and offer sacrifices to him. Midnight Writer Dec 2024 #3
And to fear his power. StarryNite Dec 2024 #9
I doubt he knows. elleng Dec 2024 #4
More lame54 Dec 2024 #5
Yep. The "More" scene from the movie Key Largo. Cyrano Dec 2024 #15
Historian/writer Morris Berman has a lot to say about that scene... keep_left Dec 2024 #29
He want's to be cool and hip. LuvLoogie Dec 2024 #6
Yes. He wants everyone to see him as the kewlest, smartest, hippest dude in the multiverse. ms liberty Dec 2024 #18
Power and control, to become the most powerful man in the world. republianmushroom Dec 2024 #7
All of it. He's a megalomaniac, just exactly like Trump. Ocelot II Dec 2024 #8
He's just a chicken dancing on a hotplate for the ignorant masses. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Dec 2024 #10
He thinks he's gonna take over the world. Megalomania. Walleye Dec 2024 #11
"What does Elon Musk want?" J_William_Ryan Dec 2024 #12
Everything Maeve Dec 2024 #13
He wants...he probably doesn't really know... haele Dec 2024 #14
I agree with your headline. "... he probably doesn't know." Cyrano Dec 2024 #17
He wants to take over the World. no_hypocrisy Dec 2024 #16
"At some point, money is no longer the issue." JI7 Dec 2024 #19
Sheer egoboo, and anything that leads to it. eppur_se_muova Dec 2024 #20
To be the most powerful person on Earth. I can see him running for POTUS in 2028. nt allegorical oracle Dec 2024 #21
He can't jmowreader Dec 2024 #22
Maybe he wants to bdamomma Dec 2024 #23
Abnormal beliefs are part of the ketamine experience JCMach1 Dec 2024 #24
Does anyone know what Ketamien flamingdem Dec 2024 #25
I posted a study that was done in my post above JCMach1 Dec 2024 #31
Money already isn't the issue for him. WarGamer Dec 2024 #26
The bad thing is, he's changing for all the wrong reasons. Initech Dec 2024 #28
Attention Johonny Dec 2024 #27
What he wants from Trump blueseas Dec 2024 #30
He wants that UAP tech! Chemical rockets are so yesterday! MartyTheGreek Dec 2024 #32
I'm really hoping... Trueblue Texan Dec 2024 #33
What the alien in Independence Day wants Marthe48 Dec 2024 #34
He wants to put people on Mars TheProle Dec 2024 #35
He also intends to charge them rent Cyrano Dec 2024 #36

LeftInTX

(34,013 posts)
1. Remember in the 80's, Trump used to be on all the covers of the tabloids? That's the only thing I can think of.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 02:58 PM
Dec 2024

StarryNite

(11,964 posts)
9. And to fear his power.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:06 PM
Dec 2024

He loves to threaten people so he must love to scare people into submission. He's truly sick.

keep_left

(3,143 posts)
29. Historian/writer Morris Berman has a lot to say about that scene...
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 06:16 PM
Dec 2024

...from Key Largo and how it is a subtle but effective critique of the dominant American culture: "more" as an ideology. Oliver Stone made the same point in Scarface, this time in Day-Glo, but a cruel irony occurred when some in the counterculture--the hip-hop culture in particular--began to see the Tony Montana character as a hero worthy of emulation.

Some of Morris Berman's works get an occasional mention at DU. I highly recommend his "America Trilogy", beginning with Twilight of American Culture (1999). Two other books apropos to the times are Erich Fromm's Escape From Freedom (1941) and Eric Hoffer's The True Believer (1951).

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219742027#post8
https://democraticunderground.com/100219662986#post58

LuvLoogie

(8,467 posts)
6. He want's to be cool and hip.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:02 PM
Dec 2024

And can't be that organically. So he must punish the world for not fawning over how great he is.

ms liberty

(10,923 posts)
18. Yes. He wants everyone to see him as the kewlest, smartest, hippest dude in the multiverse.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 04:10 PM
Dec 2024

He works so hard at it that he telegraphs his Inner insecurities.

Ocelot II

(128,798 posts)
8. All of it. He's a megalomaniac, just exactly like Trump.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:04 PM
Dec 2024

Just like Trump, he wants the most money, the most influence, the most adoration, the most power. They are two peas in a pod, and there's room in the pod for only one of them. They are matter and antimatter, and it's all bound to blow up before long.

J_William_Ryan

(3,273 posts)
12. "What does Elon Musk want?"
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:19 PM
Dec 2024

As correctly noted elsewhere – he wants to return America to the Gilded Age of robber barons and the judicial paradigm of the Lochner era where laws protecting the health, lives, and rights of working Americans are un-Constitutional, resulting in reckless, irresponsible deregulation.

haele

(15,023 posts)
14. He wants...he probably doesn't really know...
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:35 PM
Dec 2024

To do whatever he wants for fun without regulation.
To be loved and respected (his mom is a self-centered piece of work in public, and apparently his dad is, too, so I can be pretty sure he was ignored or encouraged to be a right selfish, competitive bastard growing up).

He doesn't seem to think much past his immediate interests. Not an introspective person, clever rather than wise. Nor is he very emotionally smart, despite some pretty enthusiastic marketing skills.

The only difference between him and a typical somewhat skilled collage-aged Nerd is that he now has Billions to indulge his whims and poutrage and - it's gone to his head.

I'd feel a smidge of pity for him if he wasn't so dangerous - it's like giving a 13-year old unlimited money with full adult rights and responsibilities -without any supervision or restraints.

Haele

Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
17. I agree with your headline. "... he probably doesn't know."
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 04:10 PM
Dec 2024

It's virtually impossible for any of us to imagine the global perspective of the richest man in the world.

Maybe he's just having "a bit of fun" screwing around with the minds of the 18 billion people that inhabit the planet. Which is really sick. I don't know whether or not this makes him insane, but it sure as hell makes him a clueless prick.

JI7

(93,113 posts)
19. "At some point, money is no longer the issue."
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 04:13 PM
Dec 2024

Money is always an issue for people like him.

Maybe it has to do with the fact they did not earn the money honestly and think anything they don't get can be taken by others.

eppur_se_muova

(40,846 posts)
20. Sheer egoboo, and anything that leads to it.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 04:18 PM
Dec 2024

He may very well test the tax break for billionaires to destruction in the process.

jmowreader

(52,860 posts)
22. He can't
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 04:35 PM
Dec 2024

Someone born in South Africa doesn’t meet the natural-born citizen requirement, and he isn’t old enough to meet the “citizen of the United States at the time of adoption of this Constitution” clause that got George Washington in.

bdamomma

(69,130 posts)
23. Maybe he wants to
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 05:20 PM
Dec 2024

destroy the US??? and wants to screw the American people. Also seems he's been communicating with Putin both of them want to see the US neutered. He's South African, Apartheid to the core.

And addicted to Ketamine and money. American people are going to be in a world of hurt

JCMach1

(29,072 posts)
24. Abnormal beliefs are part of the ketamine experience
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 05:46 PM
Dec 2024

As far as we no he also still uses cannabis as well.

For ketamine it included delusions of control, reference and misinterpretation.

We know about cannabis paranoia.


Ego,. money + drugs is not a good mix
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3838932/

JCMach1

(29,072 posts)
31. I posted a study that was done in my post above
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 06:55 PM
Dec 2024

I summarized.what I though the effects might be for Elon.

WarGamer

(18,218 posts)
26. Money already isn't the issue for him.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 05:56 PM
Dec 2024

He doesn't own a yacht, doesn't live in a mansion.

His private jet is owned by SpaceX.

He lives on a LOT less money annually than Bezos or Zuck... who both have enormous yachts and Zuck owns half an island...

He really thinks he can change humanity. That's his "hard on"

Initech

(107,232 posts)
28. The bad thing is, he's changing for all the wrong reasons.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 06:13 PM
Dec 2024

And using his money for evil and not good. Fuck MAGA, fuck AfD.

blueseas

(11,714 posts)
30. What he wants from Trump
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 06:19 PM
Dec 2024

What he paid for.

He paid to have the whole of the US at his beck and call. And to take all of the money he can get

MartyTheGreek

(722 posts)
32. He wants that UAP tech! Chemical rockets are so yesterday!
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 07:10 PM
Dec 2024

Grabbing reusable chemical rockets is cool, but the UAP tech is the prize!

He already got the deadly Cyber Truck fiery crash reporting regulations cut.

It's said that the TR-3B is reverse engineered antigravity tech perfected to 89% and as far as we got. Even Trump said "some interesting things happened at Roswell."

Why did Trump create Space Force? AF Generals at first laughed at the idea! Don't you think AF already owned Space? Now he can assign his loyalists and find out or try to and exploit it for the oligarchs and not The People!

https://futurism.com/elon-musk-investigated-violating-terms-top-secret-clearance

Trueblue Texan

(4,143 posts)
33. I'm really hoping...
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 09:05 PM
Dec 2024

that it will turn out that all these space ventures will be the means by which the Rapture takes place! Take them, Lord! Take them! The sooner, the better!

TheProle

(3,890 posts)
35. He wants to put people on Mars
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 10:01 PM
Dec 2024

And will work every political, cultural and financial lever he can in that pursuit.

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