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[bluestarone]

1. WTF?

Holy shit!!

[Walleye]

2. And to think I was glad when he was elected

[samnsara]

3. is his brain ok?

[Dave Bowman]

7. He probably caught junior's worms.

[AntiFascist]

98. Must be the cholesterol n/t

[Autumn]

4. He should quit freaking out about Democrats trying to rein in the dick wad platoon.

I don't think it will be too long till he changes parties.

[MagickMuffin]

37. He's a merger between Joe Manchin and Sinema

Talks and acts like Joe, dresses like Sinema.

I was disappointed when the Senate relaxed the dress code for Fetterman. I think it shows disrespect for the office.

[bedazzled]

75. I always thought he was a disrespectful bum

Ugh

[Bread and Circuses]

89. Agree. He's a show-boater

[Dennis Donovan]

8. Fetterman: "I never believed that it was about fascism... that's not a word that regular people use." (video)

Aaron Rupar
Fetterman says Trump has "political talent that's undeniable" and adds, "I never believed that it was about fascism ... that's not a word that regular people use."
Video in tweet below
10:23 AM · Dec 22, 2024

Link to tweet

Fetterman says Trump has "political talent that's undeniable" and adds, "I never believed that it was about fascism ... that's not a word that regular people use."

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2024-12-22T15:24:51.199Z

[Mike 03]

15. Glad you re-posted this

It's frankly unbelievable.

Luckily, we have people here at DU who have followed his career pretty closely and have surmised what could possibly be going on.

[displacedvermoter]

38. Doesn't he look like a dumbass,

And sounds like one, too...

Jeezus, we are in dire times.

[Solly Mack]

49. Who are these "regular people" I keep hearing about?

Are the rest of us irregular?

[Abolishinist]

95. The unwashed masses, the great unhosed.

Wear your irregularity proudly!

[Solly Mack]

96. I'll get right on that after my shower.

[Blue_Tires]

114. White folks...

[Cha]

108. TY.. Call me Anti "regular" Fetterman!

Has he no memory of Jan6?!

So he voted for TSF? Mump?

This whole thing needs to be Bookmarked!!

[Blue_Tires]

109. "...that's not a word that regular people use..."

Signed,

All the so-called "regular" working class Midwestern white folks who have been calling Dems "Commies," "Marxists," "Socialists," and "Stalinists" the last 40+ years... 😒

[yaesu]

9. Yes, we should chill out while the orange nazi burns our house down, his meds must be really kicking in. nt

[dalton99a]

12. BUT but we don't know if he is an arsonist or not

and if he is, we don't know if he is going to burn down OUR house

[NCDem47]

10. Self preservation

Senses the mood of his constituents from this past election and is leaning into that. While I get go-along-to-get-along, his openess to Trump is really going against Democratic values.

[qazplm135]

129. Sinema did that

How'd it work out for her?

He's the one overreacting to one election.

[Quiet Em]

13. If Senator Fetterman wants to set a low bar for Trump, that's his prerogative

But I'm not going to ignore Trumps vast history of sexism, racism, fraud, cons, complete lack of empathy, cruelty, bad behavior, and ignorance.

I set my bar a lot higher.

[Lovie777]

14. So it's ok to destroy democracy while....

People are suffering.

I’m not going to chill out.

[greatauntoftriplets]

16. I make my own decisions, Senator Fetterman.

[La Coliniere]

17. One disappointing statement after another from this clown.

He thinks he represents the average working Joe, yet he presents himself as an unemployed 20 year old who lives in his parent’s basement playing video games all day and not recognizing it’s time to change his underwear. Seems to be following in the Manchin, Sinema, Lieberman tradition of political appeasement. His political calculations are simply wrong and quite perplexing.

[nini]

18. I hate this guy. His Schtick is indeed helping fascism take hold

I get some elected officials have to walk a thin line, but crossing that line to this extent is way over it.

[kansasobama]

19. No Fetterman, if Trump is successful

Democracy fails. Hitler was successful at first, then what happened?

[Mike 03]

20. Yeah, listen to the good Senator from PA

We really need to chill out. Go take a CBD THC gummy. Have a martini, or three or four. Take a hot shower. Or a cold shower. Tear off your clothes and roll in the snowbank. Tear your hair out.



Seriously, I really feel for the people of Pennsylvania who broke their asses and donated every extra cent they could find to get this person elected. Many of us here in Arizona who supported Kyrsten Sinema truly know what some of you might be going through, and it's an atrocious feeling.

[Blue_Tires]

110. Exactly...

[Cha]

119. Yeah Fetterman is Not only Pumping Up Mump.. he's

Insulting those who worked so hard to get him in the Senate.


Wow. "Chill out".. is that what the Good Germans did in the 1930s?

And LOOK At the SCOTUS, Fetterman!!!!!!!

How you feeling about E Jean Carroll, Fetterman?!

Don't Gaslight me, bro.

[spanone]

21. He's lost his mind.

[doubleplusgood]

23. Sen. FetterManchin

[GreenWave]

26. What I was thinking too. He is replacing Mansion's penchant for kissing GOP butt.

[Bluetus]

82. For the last 2-3 generations, the Party has welcomed free agents

Somebody is always eyeing the "Manchin position". Sinema was going for it, but she was such a flake, she set herself up to lose in a primary.

So, up steps Fetterman. Time to start preparing someone to take him out in 2028. It is never too soon when we are talking about Party loyalty. If Fetterman sees that there is a serious effort to push him out, he will behave himself. But frankly, I'm sick of the guy already.

I hope whomever is chosen as the DNC chair understands that we have to make discipline a priority. There are times that a Senator or Rep needs a "conscience vote" because of the makeup of the state or district. But there is no such excuse for what Fetterman is doing.

[keep_left]

90. Amen.

[kelly1mm]

93. If Senator Fetterman is primaried and loses the primary we will lose that PA Senate seat. However,

I think there is a good chance he does not run again for medical reasons.

[Bluetus]

97. Good point

I have probably known 100 people who suffered significant strokes. There is only one I can think of who had a serious stroke and made a recovery to improving health. I play sports with him. He was a college football athlete and always kept himself in good shape. His stroke was atypical, involving an aneurysm in an artery that was not really operable. He received his lat rights, but rallied. Today, he has his full speech and mental capabilities as before. And he has returned to sports at a diminished, but still enjoyable level. The aneurysm is still there and he could drop dead at any moment, but he is really the exception.

I would expect Fetterman to have a steady decline.

[allegorical oracle]

113. When he was first on the public stage, prior to the stroke, he seemed sharp and funny and

like a ideal candidate. Was he faking it? Or should his change be blamed on medical issues? If someone holds tried/true beliefs, it shouldn't be so easily shaken. But then, I've never been with someone who had a stroke.

He is worrisome, 'tho.

[Bluetus]

125. Hard to say

People change for many reasons, but I don't recognize this version of Fetterman.

There is a sickness in this country now. There is a podcast I listened to regularly. It was a panel of guys that covered a diverse range of interesting topics. I felt like they had a balanced, fact-based view of the topics and I appreciated that. To the extent that truth has a liberal bias, I considered them fairly progressive-minded. Their program was not overtly political, but when their topics interested with political events, they were not afraid to make political commentary that was factual and on point.

Since the election, several of the guys have sounded considerably more MAGA. I found this disappointing because I considered them intelligent, well-grounded people. I don't expect they to become crusaders against Trumpism, but there is no reason for them to show such deference to the MAGA way of thinking.

We are seeing this Overton Window effect EVERYWHERE now.

[Blue_Tires]

111. Co-signed

[MayReasonRule]

24. !@@!@ $$%%!!

If I said I had even a shred of respect for the individual under discussion I would be lying.

[bluesbassman]

25. That would be acceptable advice under normal circumstances John.

However we’ve never had a convicted felon, adjudicated sexual offender, multiple bankrupted businessman who won an election with the blatantly corrupt help of a billionaire who is now acting as his chief advisor and mouthpiece, and is using that perch to literally bully sitting members of Congress concerning life and death affecting legislation.

And you want us all to “chill out”? Let me put thi as delicately as I can: FUCK ALL THE WAY OFF!

[Alice Kramden]

64. Adjudicated insurrectionist as well

As judged in the state of Colorado

[aeromanKC]

27. Just stay elected and remain caucusing with the Dems.

Other than that, I don't care.

[Blue_Tires]

115. I've seen this story play out before

He's almost certainly going to say sooner or later that "the party has left him behind" or "became too woke" and declare himself an independent thinking it will save his seat

[NameAlreadyTaken]

28. DINO

[a kennedy]

29. What, is he looking to be more of a player in tRump's inner circle???

I just can not believe him. That stroke he had really did a number on his noodle. 🤬 🤬 🤬

[mvd]

31. Definitely seems something's wrong with him

Have no idea if it could be the stroke. Not a doctor. But he’s been seriously depressed before and I wonder if something is just not right. Maybe he just fooled us all, which would be so disappointing.

[spapeggy]

32. The leopard does not just eat your face

It shows its spots first

[Martin Eden]

33. Fettermam wants Trump to succeed in destroying American democracy?

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Turning the United States into a fascist theocracy?

And a kleptocracy that rewards billionaire donors while cutting the safety net so many folks depend on?

Weaponizing the Justice Dept against political opponents and the free press?

Allowing polluting industries to spew more cancerous toxins and greenhouse gases into our environment?

Deporting 11 million immigrants who have become vital to our economy?

Sparking trade wars, abandoning our allies, and coddling autocrats like Putin and Orban?

Setting back human and gender rights with more SCOTUS appointments?


BECAUSE ALL THE ABOVE is Trump's agenda, and his measure of SUCCESS.

[True Dough]

34. Beyond brushing aside Trump being inherently evil,

he's not acknowledging Orange Mussolini's cognitive decline, which is likely to accelerate. It only gets worse from here, but thanks for the cheery message, John.

[tanyev]

35. "He hasn't even taken office yet"?????

He was in office for four catastrophic, corrupt and mind-numbingly incompetent years! And that was WITH so-called traditional Republican guardrails attempting to keep him focused on the things they wanted to accomplish.

Did some men in black do a giant memory wipe of the entire country while a few of us happened to be in a shielded room?

[hlthe2b]

36. Is there a word, a name for someone who comes within a hair of losing life/livelihood/voice

to stroke and thereafter receiving the unqualified support of millions of people and one's organized political party while many others (and one's opponent) write you off. And that word must take in someone who beyond the former is embraced and succeeds among those who supported you until one day, you are challenged by those now in power who are diametrically opposed to everything you and your supportive millions stood for. Given that, you decide to turn the back and instead gratuitously deride all that you once embraced, so that you can now avoid criticism directed at yourself.

What is a word for that person? I'll leave that an open question lest anyone take my comment in a manner not acceptable to DU. But, I'd encourage all to ponder that question and how that impacts us all going forward.

[orleans]

69. here's a word: weak

or spineless
or disrespectful
or ungracious
or disloyal
or suck up
(heading into swear words now so i'll stop)

[Blue_Tires]

112. "Quisling"

[WhiteTara]

39. His cognition was greatly impaired by that stroke.

Not only that, he's an insult to the Senate with his hoodie and shorts.

[TBF]

81. The stroke could be a factor, or he's trying to keep hold of his home district

We'll see what happens going forward - unfortunately we may have our new Joe Manchin.

[Blue_Tires]

117. Nah, I think he's got some really shitty advisors

Telling him to take a huge step to the right if he wants to keep his seat....

Either that or Melon Husk has bought him off 👎

[Takket]

40. i hope the USA is successful, not individual politicians

and i would love it if drumpf makes the USA successful. I also hope to win the lottery and wake up looking like a Greek God, but those two things are only slightly more likely than likely than drumpf making the USA successful.

[no_hypocrisy]

41. OK, Big John, you can sit down and chill.

The rest of us will be busy.

[republianmushroom]

42. DINO ?

[Fiendish Thingy]

43. I hope Shapiro primaries him in 2028. Nt

[Polybius]

48. I think he has bigger plans in 2028

But that would work too, I really like Shapiro.

[Fiendish Thingy]

61. Shapiro is young, and has a long career in public service ahead of him.

Regardless of their deep bench of qualified candidates, unless there is a significant shift in the party’s internal workings, I don’t think the Dems will nominate anyone other than a straight white male Christian in 2028.

[Polybius]

73. Perhaps a VP then

Gavin/Shapiro works for me.

[Fiendish Thingy]

101. I'd rather see him replace Fetterman, and run for president later

He’s young, and would definitely beat Fetterman in a primary.

[brush]

44. Go ahead and switch parties already. So sick of this Dino.

He wants trump to be successful in deporting thousands, cutting SS and Medicare/Medicaid, jailing the J6 Committee members, What?

We've seen this movie already with Manchin and Sinema.

[asm128]

77. He should resign

So Shapiro can appoint someone who is actually a Democrat.

I'm sick that I donated and voted for this guy.

[kelly1mm]

94. If Senator Fetterman resigns, Governor Shapiro will appoint a temporary replacement but it pretty much a toss up

if we keep that seat in the Special Election.

[Borogove]

45. My wife and I contributed a lot of money to his senate campaign. Needless to say, we are very disappointed.

I had a feeling that he might be another one of those obnoxiously authentic, look-at-me clowns. Sadly, it appears that my suspicions were correct.

[Crunchy Frog]

46. I'm sorry I got taken in by him.

I didn't donate (didn't have the money) but I wanted to, and was definitely rooting for him. I need to stop being such a sucker.

[delisen]

47. I think Fetterman is panicking,

He is trying to hold it together. Hope he makes it.

[Kid Berwyn]

50. That's not what any Repug said about President Biden.

They worked round the clock to oppose his every good work.

[underpants]

55. Or Obama. Rush openly said he was rooting against his country.

[edhopper]

51. Is he happy with the bipartisan bill Trump

successfully killed. What success does he hope for Trump?

[dalton99a]

53. Retribution against all opponents, tax cuts for billionaires, dismantling the government, ...

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[Solly Mack]

52. Simple slogans for simple minds.

[strongermessage]

54. Maybe trump will successfully deport Fetterman's wife back to Brazil.

My wife and I contributed to his campaigns and actually met him on a few occasions when we lived in PA. In hindsight, I wish I had supported Malcolm Kenyatta or Conor Lamb.

[ananda]

56. Yes, but how is he going to vote?

I mean, WTF!

[regnaD kciN]

71. I fear this means...

…he’ll be voting to confirm Hegseth, Patel, Gabbard, RFK the Lesser, etc.

[ananda]

85. Yes, this is sad beyond belief.

I had so much hope in him when he was first elected.

What a shame.

[LoisB]

57. I am all for my country. Too bad the President-elect is not.

[helpisontheway]

58. I'm not surprised. Democrats in PA were flipping out talking about how awesome he was..almost

like Democrats in NY did for that crooked mayor..🤮 I’m pro democrat all the way but I’m sick of voting for democrats in name only.

[karynnj]

59. I get the inclination to accept an election and to hope for a successful country

I imagine that Trump's win in PA and Senator Casey's loss may have seemed like a wakeup call for him. Could it be he sees his constituents wanting him to give Trump a chance. I'llI hope what Fetterman MEANT was that he hoped the US would be successful during the Trump presidency. Even Mitch McConnell suggested that Republican Senate institutionalist might temper some of the Trump goals.

Fetterman could have hoped that Trump would fail to get the vast majority of his extreme agenda through the Congress. This failure would be good for the country because the huge tax cuts, cuts to programs, tariffs, attacks on long term allies, and support for authoritarian governments are bad for the United States.

I imagine his hope is to position himself as someone they can negotiate with, not someone who will knee jerk accept positions he always disagreed with.

Fetterman was a hero here because of not being a regular politician, like Conor Lamb. He was called a populist, which he is. That does not make him a liberal, a Democratic socialist. He is absolutely not like Bernie Sanders, whose votes or positions have never surprised me. Vermont's local cable station has tapes of him speaking in the 1980s as mayor of Burlington. His basic values and goals never changed. Are there people from PA who have followed Fetterman who can say the same of him? Did he change from 2022 or did we at DU see what we wanted to see?

[Drum]

60. New Guy Says We Oughtta...

[Oopsie Daisy]

62. TYS!

[Silent Type]

63. I don't want trump to fail either, but I'm expecting immense failure.

[Think. Again.]

86. Knowing what trump would consider success, yes, I do want him to fail.

[Ping Tung]

66. From his lips to Trump's ass.

[Vinca]

67. WTF? If Trump is "successful" it means we commoners are severely screwed.

I've had it with Fetterman. Send him his official MAGA knee pads and find someone to primary him.

[alarimer]

68. Oh, shut up, Fetterman.

We do NOT want Trump to succeed because that would suck for everyone. Except maybe for sucking suckups like you Why don't you just turn GOP already, you traitor?

[Mz Pip]

70. What does success look like?

If tariffs causing inflation, and the deportation of millions of people is what success looks like, I’m for failure.

[Bluethroughu]

72. Definition of success is critical to which course I prefer.

If he went all out and did the opposite of everything he planned, he'd have a great historic last term, or he can continue to be the puppet of the ultra wealthy that hate him the most, but love he is the face of their plan.

He's to stupid to understand the difference.

[Baitball Blogger]

74. Let's see how Fetterman feels when Trump's ignorance, stupidity and avarice drags us into

a war, or the euphemistic equivalent.

[Escape]

76. ROOTING for TRUMP..

Is rooting AGAINST America.

And Rooting for Trump is rooting against honesty, decency, fairness, truth, compassion and common sense.

Keep talking Mr Fetterman. We can see you.

[yourout]

78. I don't need to root against them because I know it's coming.

For basically my whole lifetime Republicans have crashed the economy every time they're in office.

Democrats clean up the mess and get things straightened out and then Republicans come in and within 3 years run us into a ditch again.

[live love laugh]

79. Infiltrators and posers are why Democrats aren't more successful.

You never hear that Democrats do this crap to Republicans.

[bucolic_frolic]

80. I think the Senator has been infected with Pennsylvania coal, oil and gas interests

[slightlv]

83. Fascism is not a word regular people use?

I suggest he's been sitting in high places for a while, then. What a disappointment he is. He could be a real leader in bringing democracy to the forefront. Instead he's doing exactly what Timothy Snyder said NOT to do... giving in at the start. I had more respect for the man. One thing that never surprises me is the cowardice in the face of bullies.

[Bettie]

84. Well, looks like trump

has another certain vote in the senate.

[Think. Again.]

87. I guess fetterman is tired of having his wife and kids around?

[Bread and Circuses]

88. I've made comments about a hoodie wearing Senator....

And I don’t want to be reprimanded.

I’ve suspected that he likes the attention and his constituents, who are Felon-voters. Rather than explain to them how dangerous those ideas and actions are for the democracy, he parrots some verbiage.
Indeed, he displays the same half-baked ideas of that crowd in some ways. Which is odd.
Reminds me of a certain VT Senator who grandstands.

Both the VT and hoodie Senators seem to speak on behalf of progressive policies and then manage to flip the table over.

I’d watch the guy very closely.

I am a supporter of Democrats, President Biden and our constitution.

[buzzycrumbhunger]

91. He's surely been a huge disappointment...

WTF happened to him?!

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

92. He makes the mistake of conflating rooting for prosperity and health vs Trump's policies. nt

[themaguffin]

99. F him. For the country to succeed (or not fail), trump MUST fail at his agenda.

[Meowmee]

100. Regular people?

Wth… awful. Courageous people do call out fascism and authoritarians.

[J_William_Ryan]

102. It's perfectly appropriate to hope

Trump fails in his pursuit of reckless governance and irresponsible public policy – such as mass deportations, ending birthright citizenship, repealing the ACA, and corporate deregulation.

To note but a few.

[Turbineguy]

103. That depends on what you call "success"

[C_U_L8R]

104. When have Republicans helped the country?

I can’t think of a single time. Mostly they just fuck things up, as they prove over and over again. And we’re supposed to give the idiots a chance? Give me a break.

[Cha]

124. Wow.. it's like he doesn't know the History.

[rainy]

105. This is probably over the top but could Musk

be bribing congress persons like Fetterman into going against the Democrats?

[Blue_Tires]

116. Possibly...

Just like how the GOP paid for that woman in the North Carolina State Legislature and the mayor of Houston (?) to switch parties...

[Blue_Tires]

106. Not touching this one...

Last time I spoke out about Fetterman, all my posts got reported and removed by the mods...

So anything he says or does is 100% fine with me 🤐

[GentryDixon]

107. I wish he would shut his mouth.

[GoreWon2000]

118. In what altwernate universe is Fetterman lving in?

tRump is America's Hitler with the same Nazi platform that he and his anti-democracy sexist, racist magas will start imposing on our country on 1/20/25.

[DonCoquixote]

120. with all due respect F** *you

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That as the line the gop used on us back when we could have ripped Bush and Cheney a new one. The GOP deifntion of success..no social security, war with Iran, is worse than many failures...Fetterman, F*** U

[blueseas]

121. He has a short memory

Was he not around in 2016 and does he not hear prez Musk speak earlier?

[Henry203]

122. The minute I saw the hoodie

and shorts I knew he was a phony.

[BluenFLA]

123. What a disappointment he turned out to be

Note to Fetterman: See how Sinema lost her supporters, you have four years to think about this.

[BlueKota]

126. Wow he's become an ass

[Blue Owl]

127. I thought Fetterman was a better man

[Wifes husband]

128. Dud

Other than him being a Democrat, not impressed. Big mouth slob

[W_HAMILTON]

130. How often has Fetterman been on the Sunday talk shows?

Why does it seem like these shows only cozy up to Democrats once said Democrat shows s/he is willing to go after fellow Democrats as much (if not more) than Republicans?

[Cha]

132. Because that's what they DO. What they are.

Not anyone's imagination.. the US Corp does NOT care about Democracy for the American People Or Fucking Reality.

Only Manipulating what they want for Ratings and Tax cuts. Well they got it Again... They should have been careful what they wish for. IMFO

[Cha]

131. Sigh... "Successful" at What Big guy? His Project 2025.. Cutting

Social Security for us Americans? Cancelling Health Care for Americans.. Letting Russia take Over Ukraine? Do you care about them? I know Putin, Mump, & Vance do NOT!

[Dem4life1970]

133. Fetterman's advice is very normal. HOWEVER, these are *not normal* times....

There is nothing normal about a POTUS ordering an attack on the US Capitol

There is nothing normal about a POTUS participating in a fake elector scheme

There is nothing normal about a POTUS potentially selling (or giving away) TOP SECRETS to America's adversaries

There is nothing normal about a POTUS lining his and his family's pockets while in office, compromising himself and national security, instead of putting his assets in a blind trust (as every President since Nixon has done).

There is nothing normal about a POTUS calling his political opponents "The Enemy Within" and the First Amendment "The enemy of the people."

There is nothing normal about a POTUS putting criminal incompetents in charge of Government Departments

There is nothing normal about a POTUS saying that immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country"

I would call Fetterman Neville Chamberlain, but even Neville Chamberlain had the decency to dress appropriately.

Here's a picture of Neville Chamberlain "chilling out":

[question everything]

134. I have always admired Fetterman and he knows his constituents better

Interesting, though: almost all the posts here would be hidden. I suppose this is what legal eagles would describe as “nullifying the jury.”

(Not me. In the almost 21 years that I have been here I rarely alerted and rarely voted to hide. I consider this a discussion board).

[Sky Jewels]

135. FUCK Fetterman.

I never, ever trusted that asswipe.

With "allies" like him, who needs enemies?

[roamer65]

136. Nice try, John.

I have been slashing spending since the election and I fully intend to have the job completed by Jan 20th.

The goal in my mind is another Great Recession.

F U John.

[ecstatic]

137. I'm watching Ayman and even Joe Walsh went off on fetterman

He said it's obvious that fetterman doesn't view trump as a threat to democracy.

[ZonkerHarris]

138. Meet the new Manchin/Sinema. There must always be one turncoat to undermine Democrats efforts.