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NewHendoLib

(61,857 posts)
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 12:39 AM Dec 2024

Can't decide if what I just read in the Guardian is tragic, pathetic, horrifying...to me, it is all three.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/22/key-leaders-seeking-trump-approval

‘The great capitulation’: why key US figures are seeking Trump’s favor

People from tech executives to foreign leaders and even some mainstream media figures are ‘acquiescing in advance’, experts say, because of greed and fear

The whole thing is worth a read - I am just going to paste in these two paragraphs.

"Although it is not clear if Zuckerberg knew the back story of how this tinny version version of The Star-Spangled Banner was recorded over a prison phone line, his mere presence at Donald Trump’s “winter White House” said it all. Facebook had banned Trump after the shocking events of January 6. Now Zuckerberg had come to kiss the ring.

He is far from alone in what has been dubbed “the great capitulation” following Trump’s re-election. Tech chief executives, media organisations and foreign leaders are seeking the president-elect’s favor through donations, self-censorship and appeasement. Analysts say the surrender is driven by a combination of greed, fear of Trump’s unfettered power and a belief that resistance is futile."


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Can't decide if what I just read in the Guardian is tragic, pathetic, horrifying...to me, it is all three. (Original Post) NewHendoLib Dec 2024 OP
"Zuckerberg had come to kiss the ring." Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #1
"the precious" yourout Dec 2024 #2
i would hardly call trump's ass "precious" orleans Dec 2024 #5
No kidding, the fecking asshole would be a start. arthritisR_US Dec 2024 #13
When he arrives home his wife should be demanding he arthritisR_US Dec 2024 #12
They have no loyalty to their country Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #3
Yep. That almighty access. calimary Dec 2024 #7
The New Messiah,... magicarpet Dec 2024 #4
They "saw what works" usonian Dec 2024 #6
I wish I could rec this 1000+ times because it is so spot on! arthritisR_US Dec 2024 #10
I post a couple of graphics a lot. This and another, and they say things in a nutshell. usonian Dec 2024 #11
Our world is in trouble. arthritisR_US Dec 2024 #8
I don't know why they capitulate ReRe Dec 2024 #9
I hate to say it, but this country is pathetic. And nobody is coming to rescue us. Crunchy Frog Dec 2024 #14
Scary as hell Ohioboy Dec 2024 #15
I guarantee you- They wouldn't be capitulating and groveling if Harris and Waltz were getting ready to assume office. NBachers Dec 2024 #16
Yes, they grovel before shit. Nice people? usonian Dec 2024 #17
We've allowed our systems for restraining money and power snot Dec 2024 #18

arthritisR_US

(7,810 posts)
12. When he arrives home his wife should be demanding he
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 02:34 AM
Dec 2024

totally Listerine his lips and mouth before he speaks to her and that he sanitizes his hands before he touches her.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,304 posts)
3. They have no loyalty to their country
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 12:59 AM
Dec 2024

They only care about access , money and power. Nothing or no one else matters. Only their sickness for more.

magicarpet

(18,511 posts)
4. The New Messiah,...
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 01:03 AM
Dec 2024

.... with Orange pancake makeup applied with a large mason's cement trowel.

usonian

(25,324 posts)
6. They "saw what works"
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 01:46 AM
Dec 2024

Tell lies to cover up the fact that it's a grift and power grab.
The morans ate it up and the "media" let the lies go unchallenged.



They DO NOT speak for half of America (arguably more than half)
And they should be shunned the way they shunned America and Americans.,
Lies upon lies upon lies. Goebbels Fascist playbook.


usonian

(25,324 posts)
11. I post a couple of graphics a lot. This and another, and they say things in a nutshell.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 02:32 AM
Dec 2024


All the bullshit (lately Denali/Mt. Mckinley) is a smokescreen for the grift and power grab.

This is the first time I’ve mentioned the ass-kissers.

I can repost as an OP. I often do.

So can you! Any graphics I post (except my nice photos) are either trawled from the internet, or modified on my computer and free to share. Just copy the image link. Most are at imgbb.com or postimages.org anyway.

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
9. I don't know why they capitulate
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 02:23 AM
Dec 2024

But I do know they're all warped. I wonder if a journalist has asked them directly why they capitulated?
Thanks for posting the Guardian article. I did read it from top to bottom.

Crunchy Frog

(28,280 posts)
14. I hate to say it, but this country is pathetic. And nobody is coming to rescue us.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 02:39 AM
Dec 2024

We're not the "land of the free". And we're not like Romanians, Georgians, South Koreans, or Ukrainians.

There are still some heroes in the world, but I don't think we're going to find them here. And I'm too old and tired to play at being one.

NBachers

(19,438 posts)
16. I guarantee you- They wouldn't be capitulating and groveling if Harris and Waltz were getting ready to assume office.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 02:54 AM
Dec 2024

usonian

(25,324 posts)
17. Yes, they grovel before shit. Nice people?
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 04:56 AM
Dec 2024

In this current world, no good deed goes unpunished. When people awaken to their good side, hidden behind a crust of taught behaviors, which are not inherent, we will get better leadership.

Racism is taught. Hate and intolerance for others is taught. Those of us who grew up in the 50's saw a great transformation the started in the minds and hearts of people to whom racism and falsehoods were foreign and we turned our backs on that imagined "reality".

Several of us discussed that tonight, among with addictions, including gambling. People sometimes have to hit rock bottom before deciding to abandon those poisons that warp their reality. And sometimes a friend or relative will show them that a better reality exists. Half the country is in a cult hypnosis full of lies reinforced 24 by 7 by 365. It's an addiction, and poisonous to themselves as well as others.

The Buddha is quoted as saying that holding in hate is like swallowing poison and expecting the other person to die.

And medically, hate fills one with cortisol, so it's more than a parable.

snot

(11,804 posts)
18. We've allowed our systems for restraining money and power
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 02:57 PM
Dec 2024

to be largely dismantled, with the result that they are replacing all other values and perverting all other motives.

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