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electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 11:33 PM Dec 2024

Anyone see this? Newsweek reporting on a WSJ piece - Thurs; Re Biden's abilities

From my other political sub-forum. (A group of mostly center-left, liberal Dems)

Snip from Newsweek
The Wall Street Journal published a bombshell report Thursday suggesting the White House had to manage Biden's energy and availability as early as 2021, this time citing conversations with former aides to the White House teams.

The aides and witnesses, many speaking to the paper anonymously, help paint a picture of a man who needed handling to get him through the typical burdens of the presidency. Biden reportedly relied on a "tightknit inner circle of advisers" that helped him execute his vision and limit gaffes, according to the Journal...."

snip "...However, a source familiar with the story and the requisite interviews told Newsweek that the WSJ interviewed more members of the Cabinet who refuted the premise of the article, saying instead that they speak with the president often and receive detailed instructions from him. The source alleged that those perspectives had been excluded from the published story....".

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Anyone see this? Newsweek reporting on a WSJ piece - Thurs; Re Biden's abilities (Original Post) electric_blue68 Dec 2024 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #1
DITTO!!!!! elleng Dec 2024 #2
The WSJ got anything to say about Trump's energy and availability? tanyev Dec 2024 #3
yeah, I saw it NJCher Dec 2024 #4
Both news sources are rightwing dumpt promoters who I read with skepticism kimbutgar Dec 2024 #5
WSJ should be wondering what Trump will do. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2024 #6
They had to manage his energy, right IbogaProject Dec 2024 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #8
Remember the 2017-2021 "executive time"? fierywoman Dec 2024 #12
I believe it. mr715 Dec 2024 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #34
People who don't like Biden will believe this DemocracyWorks Dec 2024 #10
I like Biden mr715 Dec 2024 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #35
The WSJ report came out a week ago, not yesterday Fiendish Thingy Dec 2024 #11
People don't care anymore because Biden is out of office in less than a month. Self Esteem Dec 2024 #21
Link, pplease? This is all hearsay without a link. Amaryllis Dec 2024 #13
This should be it.... ah, yes. electric_blue68 Dec 2024 #20
Why would anyone believe anything in a Merdoch rag? Figarosmom Dec 2024 #15
RW rags relayerbob Dec 2024 #16
The Murdoch Street Urinal. Fuck that shit. madinmaryland Dec 2024 #17
I believe it. My eyes don't lie. Wanderlust988 Dec 2024 #18
Mick Jagger is 81 oldtime dfl_er Dec 2024 #23
the work he polished off before NJCher Dec 2024 #26
Respectfully, mr715 Dec 2024 #36
Preposterous post. Democrats don't admire people who come here to insult Pres. Biden. (Not "the Biden") Judi Lynn Dec 2024 #27
Do you think he is a saint? mr715 Dec 2024 #37
It can all be true: MadameButterfly Dec 2024 #19
Lack of Specifics DallasNE Dec 2024 #22
Well fuck, even if it's true, Shambala Dec 2024 #24
I figured some of the negative reporting should be known, so we see what others are seeing. electric_blue68 Dec 2024 #25
If they didn't talk about Keepthesoulalive Dec 2024 #29
So many replies miss point of your post-- that WSJ removed the refutations lostnfound Dec 2024 #31
What important person doesn't have handlers or a close knit circle? live love laugh Dec 2024 #28
No but UK Independent planted something Kali999 Dec 2024 #30
Complete bullshit MichMan Dec 2024 #32
And when Biden leaves the Oval Office milestogo Dec 2024 #33

Response to electric_blue68 (Original post)

tanyev

(49,288 posts)
3. The WSJ got anything to say about Trump's energy and availability?
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 11:43 PM
Dec 2024

Or are they helpfully paraphrasing his nonsensical argle-bargle as "The president-elect expressed his irritation with [insert issue du jour] in forceful terms on social media."

NJCher

(43,162 posts)
4. yeah, I saw it
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 11:44 PM
Dec 2024

I just threw it in the pile of other allegations they and the NY Times have made about him. I thought about posting it but it would have fallen under the category of r-w propaganda at that time.

What Newsweek has turned up about members of the Cabinet who refuted the premise of the article makes it newsworthy now, however. Also, just looking at how hard Biden has worked to bambooze trump from his ugly decisions for his first day in office makes the premise of the article just more propaganda.

It makes me wonder why WSJ would bother, at this late point in the game. Their candidate already "won," so to speak. Or do they have a fear that maybe he didn't, really?

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
5. Both news sources are rightwing dumpt promoters who I read with skepticism
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 11:46 PM
Dec 2024

Bs hit job on President Biden o this way out.

Obviously they don’t ever listen to the orange monster who says ridiculous and insane things EVERY friggin day!

IbogaProject

(5,911 posts)
7. They had to manage his energy, right
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 11:49 PM
Dec 2024

So he could limp along doing a schedule that would exhaust most men half his age. Mr Turd is the low energy guy, stop the mIsdirection you're attempting MSM..

Response to IbogaProject (Reply #7)

Response to mr715 (Reply #9)

DemocracyWorks

(98 posts)
10. People who don't like Biden will believe this
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 12:08 AM
Dec 2024

Including some on DU. What else is new. And it’s another he she said from “sources” throw this in the pile of allegations.

mr715

(3,564 posts)
14. I like Biden
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 12:40 AM
Dec 2024

But I think he made some, lets say... strategic mistakes made worse by bad tactics.

Response to mr715 (Reply #14)

Fiendish Thingy

(23,227 posts)
11. The WSJ report came out a week ago, not yesterday
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 12:25 AM
Dec 2024

And it was based on interviews with 50 WH sources , unnamed of course, as are Newsweek’s sources. The Newsweek story seems to pretty clearly be damage control.

Interestingly, the WSJ story was ignored/buried by the other MSM outlets- nobody , not even Raw Story, picked it up, and the alternative media bloggers and podcasters Biden has been granting interviews with didn’t mention it either.

Only one “radical left” podcaster, Hasan Piker, gave it any attention.

I didn’t notice anyone in the right mentioning it either- Trump didn’t even “truth” about the story AFAIK.

Very, very interesting.

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
21. People don't care anymore because Biden is out of office in less than a month.
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 01:38 AM
Dec 2024

Had he stayed in and won reelection, it probably would be a more prominent story.

But what's the point now? Biden is leaving office. Even if he needed help getting through day-to-day presidential activities, it's over now.

Figarosmom

(11,979 posts)
15. Why would anyone believe anything in a Merdoch rag?
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 12:41 AM
Dec 2024

WSJ lost all credibility when it sold

MEMORY HOLE

Trump didn't even get out of bed and down to the oval office until noon

Then he went golfing.

Wanderlust988

(784 posts)
18. I believe it. My eyes don't lie.
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 01:11 AM
Dec 2024

Last edited Sat Dec 28, 2024, 04:38 AM - Edit history (1)

Biden is very elderly. It's no different than many other seniors who struggle at that age. We can't put in our head in the sand. I love Biden, but the WH protected him for a reason.

oldtime dfl_er

(7,176 posts)
23. Mick Jagger is 81
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 02:10 AM
Dec 2024

So is Keith Richard, Robert deNiro, John Kerry. 81 is not "very elderly".

And it's not "the Biden". It's President Biden.

You have no credible evidence for your assertions, and your language is inflammatory.

NJCher

(43,162 posts)
26. the work he polished off before
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 04:21 AM
Dec 2024

he has to hand off to trump, if that happens, is enough to prove he's more than capable. His list of activities has been exhausting, from signing 50 bills into law on Christmas Eve to averting a shutdown.

mr715

(3,564 posts)
36. Respectfully,
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 02:51 PM
Dec 2024

It is the least you can do when you are fighting for the soul of the nation.

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
27. Preposterous post. Democrats don't admire people who come here to insult Pres. Biden. (Not "the Biden")
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 04:27 AM
Dec 2024

would be better, more polished, as was pointed out to you earlier. "The Biden?"

Also, what can this mean, from your post?

We can't put in our head in the sand.

MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
19. It can all be true:
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 01:17 AM
Dec 2024

Last edited Sat Dec 28, 2024, 01:42 PM - Edit history (1)

Knowledgeable and adept at policy and complex decisions while struggling to have the energy to do the job which should frankly be expected of anyone his age.

We watched his exposure being "handled" in the 2020 campaign where even then there were reports of him not having the energy needed for the campaign. His primary debate performances were described as "word salad" by Democrats, and he couldn't get through a rally speech without stumbling. His gaffs--typical for Joe throughout his career--were perhaps more frequent.

Then he mobilized the Covid vaccine, briliantly brought together a coalition to support Ukraine, and helped pass comprehensive infrastructure bills.

The WSJ has its agenda and will focus on the negative. Haven't they always?




Shambala

(280 posts)
24. Well fuck, even if it's true,
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 02:21 AM
Dec 2024

The Biden administration has been one of the greatest in the history of the United States of America.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
25. I figured some of the negative reporting should be known, so we see what others are seeing.
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 04:11 AM
Dec 2024

Last edited Sat Dec 28, 2024, 09:20 AM - Edit history (1)

And Newsweek did mention Biden Administration people who disagreed.
I know they're RW sources.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,301 posts)
29. If they didn't talk about
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 05:15 AM
Dec 2024

Doo doo butt trump and his ridiculous antics like Arnold Palmer and dogs, then it’s a hit piece. The people who are Maga and it’s sympathetic press have nothing to teach us, you’re just giving them more air.

lostnfound

(17,520 posts)
31. So many replies miss point of your post-- that WSJ removed the refutations
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 09:09 AM
Dec 2024

the media spin is intense. The underlined part of your post is the interesting part.

live love laugh

(16,383 posts)
28. What important person doesn't have handlers or a close knit circle?
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 04:48 AM
Dec 2024

All the bold letters are heavy on innuendo and devoid of specifics.

suggesting the White House had to manage Biden's energy and availability as early as 2021, this time citing conversations with former aides to the White House teams.

The aides and witnesses, many speaking to the paper anonymously, help paint a picture of a man who needed handling to get him through the typical burdens of the presidency. Biden reportedly relied on a "tightknit inner circle of advisers" that helped him execute his vision and limit gaffes, according to the Journal...."


You can bet Trump has people to manage his “energy and availability”.

Kali999

(289 posts)
30. No but UK Independent planted something
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 07:35 AM
Dec 2024

similar last week. I think its preemptive slander for the coming kerfuffle. Not surprised it trickled up. Maybe the Hill as well.

MichMan

(17,150 posts)
32. Complete bullshit
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 10:47 AM
Dec 2024

The press hammered Karine Jean-Pierre and VP Kamala Harris constantly about President Biden's mental capacity and they both were emphatic that there was no decline, and he was as energetic as someone half his age.

As two of the people that interact with him the most, I trust their opinions over someone "unnamed"

milestogo

(23,080 posts)
33. And when Biden leaves the Oval Office
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 10:53 AM
Dec 2024

Presidential knowledge of foreign policy goes from a half century of real political experience to a fool who thinks everything is for sale.

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