It sounds like the NOLA terrorist wasn't domestic

[herding cats]

Last edited Wed Jan 1, 2025, 04:12 PM - Edit history (1)

Update: suspect identified as Shamsud Din Jabbar. A US citizen with former military service who was apparently radicalized by ISIS. The FBI is now saying they do not think he was the solely responsible.

Per ABC News:

Investigators are working to determine whether the deceased suspect entered the country recently and whether he had a connection to ISIS, law enforcement sources told ABC News.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/1-dead-vehicle-strikes-crowd-new-orleans-police/story?id=117246329

Maybe it's similar to what took place in Germany?

Also, they're saying he seems to have caused the AirBNB he was staying in to catch fire as he left. Maybe an IED they're not saying for sure yet. It feels like they planned this for awhile and it could have even been worse.

[Dennis Donovan]

1. The first three paragraphs of that article:

A suspect who was "hell-bent" on killing as many people as possible drove a pickup truck around barricades and plowed his vehicle through a crowd of New Year's revelers on Bourbon Street in New Orleans at a high rate of speed, leaving at least 10 dead and injuring dozens of others early Wednesday, city and federal officials said.

After mowing down numerous people over a three-block stretch on the famed thoroughfare while firing shots into the crowd, the suspect allegedly got out of the truck wielding an assault rifle and opened fire on police officers, law enforcement officials briefed on the incident told ABC News. Officers returned fire, killing the suspect who was not immediately identified, sources said. At least two police officers were shot and wounded, authorities said.

Improvised explosive devices found in and around the scene on Bourbon Street were apparently found to be viable and investigators were looking for more in the city's French Quarter, multiple law enforcement sources tell ABC News. Investigators are working to determine whether the deceased suspect entered the country recently and whether he had a connection to ISIS, law enforcement sources told ABC News.

[RussBLib]

2. The truck had Texas plates

...which does not guarantee that he was from Texas. Maybe he stole the truck. But it wouldn't surprise me.

[Dennis Donovan]

4. Could be a rental.

Maybe we'll know more at the presser at noon, ET.

[herding cats]

6. It could easily be a rental or a cheap used purchase.

A white F150 would blend in as they're so common as fleet vehicles.

Then there's the "black flag" they're mentioning was being flown by the truck. I'm guessing that's why they're looking into ISIS connections.

[LeftInTX]

51. Or he could be a resident/citizen with ISIS affiliation. I believe then it might be classified as "international"

If it's homegrown like the Boston Bombers, then it's considered "domestic".

There are alot of middle easterners in the Houston area.

They will need to research him to see if he had ties to international groups.
The main thing is to uncover any possible conspiracy.
However, most cases are "lone wolves" and are considered "domestic".

[LeftInTX]

52. If he has actual ties to ISIS or a terror group, it could be considered "international", even if he's a citizen.

If it's homegrown like the Boston Bombers, then it's considered "domestic".

There are alot of middle easterners in the Houston area.

They will need to research him to see if he had ties to international groups.
The main thing is to uncover any possible conspiracy.
However, most cases are "lone wolves" and are considered "domestic".

[WarGamer]

24. it was a TURO rental.

[Melon]

67. He lived in Houston. He had an iSIS flag on the cab per reports...

[herding cats]

8. Thanks!

I should have added more.

[Dennis Donovan]

11. There was a lot of info on those first 3 - didn't want it to get missed

[SergeStorms]

20. They've been detonating IEDs......

this morning. There's videos on the interwebs from NOLA about it.
My daughter graduated from Tulane in 2006. I've spent a lot of time in The Big Easy and have a trip planned in March.
My heart goes out to everyone in NOLA right now.

[OldBaldy1701E]

26. I have always loved 'Nawlins'.

There is nothing better than sitting at Cafe du Monde with a nice au lait and watching the people go by.

I also send out good vibes to them all.

[sop]

3. NBC reported the truck used had Texas plates.

[herding cats]

7. See my post #6 above.

Lots of possible reasons for that.

[Dennis Donovan]

5. Scott MacFarlane on X: According to sources familiar with the investigation the deceased suspect was wearing body armor

Scott MacFarlane
@MacFarlaneNews
According to sources familiar with the investigation in New Orleans, the deceased suspect was wearing body armor
11:42 AM · Jan 1, 2025

There's also a graphic image of the terrorist dead on the ground wearing fatigues (that I won't post).

[herding cats]

10. Well know more soon

I think I saw the pic of him in fatigues. He looked like he had some grey in his beard.

[wnylib]

9. The orange fascist is already trying to connect

the NOLA attack to hordes of criminals crossing the border illegally.

[herding cats]

13. There's no telling how he got here.

I'm sure we'll know more soon, but there's a lot of legal ways into the country.

[Dennis Donovan]

14. New info from Fox reporter:

Aishah Hasnie
UPDATE coming soon from authorities ⬇️

Sources now tell FOX - the truck crossed Eagle Pass, TX on November 16th -- not two days ago. The identification of driver that crossed border does not appear to be the shooter. The truck changed hands at some point.

per @davidspunt @GriffJenkins
11:55 AM · Jan 1, 2025

[Wicked Blue]

16. It takes a criminal

to know a criminal

[rampartd]

18. that is why i suspect a false flag to blame biden and the "illegals"

[FalloutShelter]

30. American born. Pretending to be ISIS.

False flag for TSF?

[wnylib]

40. I don't know about a false flag operation.

There are people who get radicalized on various issues and act on them.

I just don't see any indication of a false flag set up.

[rampartd]

53. if i believed everything trump said

his precious j 6 patriots are really violent antifa/blm leftist cmie radicals.

i just don't want to jump to conclusions and let a proud boy off the hook.

[EX500rider]

60. Shamsud Din Jabbar sounds like a unlikely name for a Proud Boy

[SergeStorms]

21. He has to politicize everything.

He can't simply give a message of sympathy and healing. He has to politicize it and blame Democrats and immigrants for everything.

I hate that Big Orange Pig.

[KS Toronado]

39. Typical knee jerk reaction from president Mump

They'll want to start a war over this would not surprised me.

[B.See]

58. That's because Trump is just trying to get ahead of the narrative

by shifting the focus away from the kind of violence he and his acolytes via their own rhetoric, have either encouraged or ABIDED by.

This terrorist was a citizen who was an honourably discharged army veteran. So it remains to be seen whether this is isis, border related, or even foreign related.

Lest we forget, over the last four years, the FBI has busted (as in thwarted) several terrorist attacks that were being planned by domestic terrorists.

Latest word out is the FBI suspects others were involved. Remains to be seen who's behind it.

[dalton99a]

12. .

[Hugin]

17. I am beginning to think this will be used as a reason to go full Nazi.

It’s unusual for Tangerine Idi Amin to be so on top of something that doesn’t serve him directly.

[4catsmom]

49. so your solution is more HB1 visas

so we can get more educated terrorists?

[Dennis Donovan]

15. Press conf delayed 2 hrs?

Per Faux News? That's what I'm hearing on Agenda Free TV.

[paleotn]

19. Is the Reichstag burning?

[Igel]

22. Shamsud Din Jabbar. n/t

[herding cats]

25. They were able to ID him pretty fast.

I wonder if he had documentation on him or if he was known to the FBI?

[Kaleva]

31. Plates on the truck made it easy I imagine

[herding cats]

34. Of course!

I wasn't thinking.

[Kaleva]

54. I read the trick was a rental

But they would have easily traced it back to the rental company who then would have looked up who rented it

[NoMoreRepugs]

23. A shoe bomber type moment? A singular incident causes a societal change for millions for decades??

[wishstar]

27. NOLA .com says he was 42 yr old US citizen born in Texas

[herding cats]

28. From Houston I read.

He was flying an ISIS flag they're now saying. While he was American (which will ruin Trump's narrative) his cause wasn't domestic.

[bronxiteforever]

29. Looks like born and raised in USA

[mainer]

32. And a US military veteran

A home-grown terrorist.
Maybe angry about Gaza?

[herding cats]

35. Maybe?

I hadn't seen his link to the military yet, but I'm not surprised in the least.

[Arazi]

36. Injuring and killing a bunch of folks in New Orleans will surely help Palestinians

That will definitely bring Americans around to supporting their plight…

[alarimer]

37. MAGA piece of shit, if I had to guess.

They WANT fascism, so they will make it happen, one way or another.

[Tommy Carcetti]

38. Domestic, US Citizen, possible ISIS sympathizer

Fox and Trump were both heavily playing up unsubstantiated claims the truck had come across the Mexican border.

Their level of credibility remains unchanged.

[herding cats]

41. It's tragic and heartbreaking what took place.

That Trump and FOX politicized this instantly was disgraceful. I'm not sorry they were wrong.

[LeftInTX]

55. It did come across the border, but he wasn't driving it. It's a rental vehicle.

Truck used in attack owned by Houston man

The truck used in the attack, a white Ford F-150 Lightning electric vehicle, is owned by Rodrigo Diaz, per ABC News.

Diaz apparently rented out the truck on the rental app Turo.

His wife Dora Diaz told ABC they are 'devastated' and had no idea the truck would be used for a terrorist attack.

'My husband rents cars through the Turo app. I can’t tell you anything else. I’m here with my kids, and this is devastating,' Diaz said.

[AllyCat]

42. No, US resident since at least 2008. ABC works for

Tangerine Idi Amin

[nolabear]

43. Please update. He was from Texas, a US citizen.

[herding cats]

62. Gotcha!

Local foreign radicalized terrorist.

[DownriverDem]

44. Just saw where

he's from Texas.

[William769]

45. Because of the world we are forced to live in now

I smell a rat.

[Exp]

46. WaPo: Suspect in deadly New Orleans truck attack is U.S. citizen, had ISIS flag and weapons.. eom

[Lulu KC]

47. Except that the guy in Germany was anti-Islamist n/t

[Raiden70]

48. Shamsud Din Jabbar, a US citizen from Houston.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14241319/new-orleans-latest-bourbon-street-car-mass-casuality-deaths-shooting.html

[ForgedCrank]

50. Dang, too

much conflicting information right now. Other credible sources called him a US military veteran just an hour ago.
Also lots of rampant rumors flying around that 4-5 other accomplices may have been involved.
I'm going to have to sit back and ignore all of it for a few days until the media gossip settles down a bit.

[LeftInTX]

56. I think he acted alone. They always tend to say accomplices at first. I think it's because they're

ruling it out. Time will tell.


I think bombs "planted around town" is a concern.

[herding cats]

66. Apparently there are at least 3 more men and one woman involved

It surprised me, too. I thought at the most there would be people online egging him on and maybe offering planning assistance. Not 3 men and a woman on the ground in NOLA laying bombs for him.

The bulletin says camera footage identified a second vehicle registered to the same owner as the one Jabbar drove into the crowds from Canal Street to the 400 block of Bourbon Street. Cameras caught three men and a woman placing the first homemade bomb on Bourbon Street, according to the memo.

https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/bourbon-street-attack-new-orleans-terrorism/article_24d12d0e-c89c-11ef-ac63-07a7310eeccd.html

I saw on a local Houston news site where they'd

The statement that the rented vehicles were registered to the same owner surprised me most. That guy renting out his vehicles won't have a moments peace for quite awhile.

[AkFemDem]

57. All can be true- one can be a US citizen, a veteran, AND....

a radicalized ISIS terrorist working with other international terrorists.

[ForgedCrank]

64. Yes, absolutely,

but now "he entered the US illegally 2 days ago" is the part I'm confused about

[Kaleva]

61. It's often best to wait for more info.

[tornado34jh]

59. There still are questions that I think are unanswered

First, where is his family from? Specifically, did his family originate from outside the US (e.g. a relative such as grandfather)? He might have been born and raised in Texas, but he might have family members that originated from elsewhere. Were any of his family members a member/follower of IS? A lot of African American people that are born in the US are Muslim. But again, he did have prior history of misdemeanor theft and driving without a valid license. I don't know how that leads to things.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

63. US citizen and a human resource specialist in the military

Link to tweet

[malaise]

65. Really?

Born in Texas, military vet?
Hmmmmmmm