' Mr. Jabbar had been acting erratically, "being all crazy, cutting his hair" ' Mental illness issues?

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

Mr. Jabbar, who officials confirmed was honorably discharged from the Army, had converted to Islam at some point, according to Dwayne Marsh, who is married to Mr. Jabbar’s ex-wife Nakedra Charrlle. Mr. Jabbar and Ms. Charrlle had two daughters, ages 15 and 20, Mr. Marsh said, adding that “the girls are a mess” after the attack.

In recent months, he said, Mr. Jabbar had been acting erratically, “being all crazy, cutting his hair” after converting, Mr. Marsh said. Mr. Marsh and his wife then stopped allowing the daughters to spend time with Mr. Jabbar, he said.

In a YouTube video from 2020 that appears to have been posted by Mr. Jabbar, he spoke positively about his skills in real estate. He said he had been born and raised in Beaumont, Texas, and had served in the U.S. military.

“I’ve been here all my life, with the exception of traveling for the military,” he said. Court records from his first divorce, in 2012, list his employment as active duty with the U.S. Army and his residence at the time as Fort Bragg, in North Carolina.

In the video, Mr. Jabbar said that in his 10 years in the armed forces, he had worked as a human resources specialist and an information technology specialist.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/01/us/suspect-new-orleans-texan-isis-flag.html

[ScratchCat]

1. So his conversion was very recent?

That's interesting and weird, that'd he would do something like this. Mental illness seems likely if this is the case.

[LeftInTX]

17. He was born to an Arabic named father and a generic American named mother.

Pretty sure they were divorced because I found a 1997 marriage for his mother. I haven't found a marriage or divorce certificate for his parents, but I'm looking.

His maternal grandmother was from Landry, Louisiana

One of his siblings lived in Shreveport.

Anyway, he had a connection to Louisiana.

[Polybius]

30. Which Arabic country is his father's side from?

I haven't been able to find out yet.

[LeftInTX]

33. I have no idea. His mom is African-American. I traced both of her parents back on census records.

So, his mom explains much of his features.

His dad was here in 1982 and he's a US citizen and currently an active voter.

[applegrove]

34. Arabic is not the same as muslim. Christians in Lebannon are arabic

peoples, for instance.

[LeftInTX]

35. It's the first name that indicates religion

For instance: Omar Sharif[a] (Arabic: عمر الشريف Egyptian Arabic pronunciation:], born Michel Yusef Dimitri Chalhoub10 April 1932 – 10 July 2015) was an Egyptian actor, generally regarded as one of his country's greatest male film stars.[6][7][8]

He was born and raised a Christian. His parents were from Lebanon. Michel Chalhoub is a very Christian name. He changed his name because his acting brought shame to his parents.

[applegrove]

37. Okay. Thanks.

[Think. Again.]

2. I think it's safe to assume...

...that ANYONE who would do such a thing is mentally ill.

[NoRethugFriends]

4. I disagree. you can be evil without being mentally ill

That's kind of the Republicans line. Not accusing you of that. That everything is related to mental health when somebody does something bad.

[Think. Again.]

6. I disagree...

...harming others (when not in self-defense) is not within the abilities of psychologically healthy people, it's actually instinctual to pull back from physically hurting people. It is unnatural in humans to hurt others of our species outside of psychological breakdowns caused by fear or anger, or other mental health issues.

Yes, I know it's a common occurence, but so are a lot of other mental health issues these days.

[Igel]

12. There's been a lot of tribal warfare.

Genocide was that not uncommon when you put a lot of tribes in one area with fairly limited resources--losing a 'war' would require that you try to reclaim you tribe's place, that is, restart the war, and both sides know that the option is genocide or eternal bouts of war, barring some method of conflict resolution.

Pick any violent inner city gang or cartel in Mexico or Colombia. It becomes circular saying that these guys kill because they're psychologically unwell when the main evidence they're unwell is that they kill.

In some places, conflict resolution could include having a tribe or clan, to preserve its existence, forfeit a member: death if male, marriage if female.

Eye-for-an-eye or killings for honor are not been that uncommon. Infanticide was a thing. Hear about the place in SW England with signs of a fairly large cannibalism event? Evidence these were men, women, and children that succumbed to cold or something; they met with violent deaths.

Duels were not necessarily between men who were mentally ill.


This is not true for some cultures, but for others that dehumanize those not in their group?

[Think. Again.]

16. Did you think mental health issues are a new thing?

[arthritisR_US]

24. I think you're missing the point. As a psychologist what that

poster said was indeed accurate and relevant.

[Think. Again.]

28. I disagree...

Pointing out that large groups of people throughout history lacked a level of psychological health doesn't equate to a lack of psychological health being a prime state.

[arthritisR_US]

31. Then it sounds from what you're saying is that your whole

country is fecked

[Think. Again.]

36. I do believe that our society, as a whole....

....lacks a level of emotional and psychological health, yes.

[womanofthehills]

39. Except - his first ex wife said he was acting strange

So she stopped letting his two daughters visit him.

Being mentally ill is a Republican line????

[JanMichael]

7. Easy to default and attribute to mental illness.

Never just strongly held toxic beliefs.

[Think. Again.]

8. Having strongly held toxic beliefs would be another indication of mental illness.

[Kaleva]

13. I agree

[JanMichael]

20. Soooo. What about most evangelicals?

All mentally ill?

[Think. Again.]

21. The conmen or their suckers?

Nevermind, neither people who hurt others by taking advantage of their delusions, nor people who suffer from delusions, are mentally healthy people.

[arthritisR_US]

26. I think they go into these things because they feel there is

something terribly missing or empty in their lives and the phoney memes resonates with them and then they carry on to decrepit levels .

[Think. Again.]

29. Okay, I hope they can gain a healthier mental state.

[arthritisR_US]

32. I hope so too

[LeftInTX]

3. Ex-wife got restraining order against him.

https://www.newsweek.com/shamsud-din-jabbars-wife-got-restraining-order-against-him-2008346

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

5. oh oh: "Jabbar, 42, was registered as a Democrat in 2012 when he resided in North Carolina."

MAGAts will jump on this detail

[LisaL]

10. I believe at some point in time, their hero Trump was a registered democrat.

2012 was a long time ago. So they can jump on it all they want.

[Igel]

14. Yeah, at least in the mid-80s.

When (R) to run for office.

[LeftInTX]

11. When I saw a screenshot of the registration, it appeared to be "unaffiliated".

I don't think he was registered to vote in Texas.

ETA: He's registered in Ft Bend Co, but only voted once. No primaries.

[Igel]

15. Not under that name in Harris County.

But he's 42 and bounced around, apparently.

[LeftInTX]

18. He's registered in Ft Bend County, but he's on Suspense because he moved.

He last voted in the 2020 general election.
He has not voted in any primaries.

Took me awhile to find his name, but he is registered in Texas.

[Unladen Swallow]

9. Just another garden-variety radical

killing for his perceived cause. I have no idea how to fight this sort of thing except through culture. This sort of thing exists in all cultures and across all types of people and demographics. Truly sad. I agree with others who have simply called it evil.

[B.See]

19. This may or may not be linked

to mental illness, especially if it turns out others were involved, but as I'd written earlier and numerous times before,

hate based rhetoric, demagoguery, and ideology PREY upon the minds of the mentally/psychologically challenged and the easily (willfully) MISLED.

[Think. Again.]

22. I don't understand how someone who could want to do...

...this kind of thing could be considered mentally healthy.

[B.See]

23. that's a good point. Nor do I. I guess

the distinction ( or question) I'm raising is whether the so-called 'radicalization' of someone into support of ANY extremist cause or ideology constitutes (technically) a mental illness.

Because if so, then there are far more mentally ill among us than we may be willing to acknowledge.

[Think. Again.]

27. I agree, and yes, I believe that being mentally healthy...

...is more rare than society likes to tell ourselves.

[Blue Full Moon]

25. If I was watching criminal minds

He definitely had the stressors for mental breakdown. Possible serial killer in the making.

[LeftInTX]

38. I read he was planning to round up his family and kill them, but changed his mind.