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[Autumn]

1. Bullshit. The bastard wasn't even in the area. Neither bastard was in the area.

[TheBlackAdder]

19. Inside job?

[Autumn]

21. Just like the shooter who had all his stuff waiting at the golf course that no one knew Trump was

going to there till the spur of the moment decision was made to go there.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

50. The shooter was willing to wait that day or a few more because he knew how often tRump goes golfing. . . . nt

[Autumn]

54. How did he know Trump was going to be there? did he set up at several courses?

All these assassination attempts are a big hit then whoosh... gone with the wind.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

55. It was the most logical course. He was tracking him. He knew he was in the area and had no rallies scheduled. . . nt

[Marthe48]

94. Gone with the drones

n/t

[AZJonnie]

113. The authorities said there was clear evidence he'd been in the general vicinity of the course for about 1 month

Via traffic cams, witnesses, etc. Maybe cell records but unsure on that. They also said there's not a reason to think he had foreknowledge of Trump's visit that day, and that he'd been tracking Trumps activities. When Trump is at Mar A Lago, he often plays at Trump International (or at least, he did). Dude's gear could've been hidden in those bushes for weeks, actually. He also could've been camped out at that spot every day that Trump was located at Mar A Lago during that month he'd been nearby. He'd also, long before, written that he wanted someone to off Trump. So, the idea this was some false flag, or he was tipped off, or any other shady conspiracy theory, as usual, did not pan out

[Wiz Imp]

92. There was no shooter

There was an alleged potential shooter. He never fired a shot.

[LeftInTX]

29. They're trying to determine if it was intentional. If so, it would be"send a message"...Trump and Musk.

He wasn't trying to kill them. Just commit an act in things/places associated with them.

If he was trying to kill other people, then it would be consider an act of terror. The people would have been people at the hotel or on the street would have been the targets if any were killed.

I thought the cybertruck exploded on it's own. It is NYE and it's entirely possible the fireworks, were simply for partying and it was a freak accident.

I guess more will come out in the investigation.

An official briefed on the probe told ABC News that the Tesla Cybertruck had a load of fireworks-style mortars onboard. Investigators are urgently working to determine a motive and whether the driver intended to set off an explosion and why.

Until a motive is determined and other possibilities are ruled out, police are treating the explosion like a possible criminal act and a possible act of terror. Evidence collection and investigation are ongoing.

I think they're still determining the cause of the explosion. Was it intentional or just a freak accident?

[wnylib]

68. A suicidal act then, since the driver died?

I think it was an accident caused by carelessness.

[LeftInTX]

71. Many terrorists commit suicide. It remains to be seen if these were just a bunch of fireworks that accidentally

went off or if this was intentional.

[Polybius]

103. It didn't explode on its own

And seeing pics of the truck, it held up quite well. Another truck would have caused wreckage everywhere.

[duncang]

114. The hatch was slid above the cab.

And the video shows it. If you have a wide open container the blast just goes to the path of least resistance. Also since the fireworks didn’t go off all at once it probably wouldn’t cause that much damage no matter what truck it was.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

43. Completely illogical to think that "terrorist" designation requires some leader in the area. . . . nt

[LSparkle]

53. Just cuz his NAME was on the building?

That’s WAY too much of a stretch ...

[Autumn]

57. The icing on the cake was the cybertruck.

[LeftInTX]

105. Would they be looking at terrorism if it was a Holiday Inn? Yes. If you intend to blow up a building, it's

usually considered terrorism. It doesn't matter whose name is on it. What if it was a school?

His trunk was full of explosives.

[Alliepoo]

2. Uh huh..

If that was the case wouldn’t you think it would have been perpetrated in FL, closer to where dingdong Donnie is?

[Autumn]

12. If it was aimed at Trump they missed the make by a wide country mile. Like across the country.

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I think it smells like the assignation attempt.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

45. Attempting assignation is bad enough. Thank goodness it has nothing to do with assassination. . . nt

[Autumn]

56. I will never buy what they are selling. Shot in the ear and the ear is completely healed 2 days later.

[walkingman]

3. MAGA is bat shit crazy people - ever met one?

[TheBlackAdder]

20. Elaine Chao's sister drowns in a Tesla because the doors wouldn't open. This guy burns from the doors not opening.

Angela Chao, CEO of shipping company Foremost Group and sister of former US cabinet secretary Elaine Chao, died after her car became submerged in a pond on a Central Texas ranch last month, according to the Wall Street Journal and a report from Blanco County Emergency Services obtained by the Austin American-Statesman.

Chao’s Tesla Model X SUV went over an embankment and into a pond when she put the car in reverse instead of drive during a three-point turn shortly before midnight on February 10, the Wall Street Journal reports.

Emergency workers arrived on the scene 24 minutes after receiving a 911 call, but “due to the terrain and accessibility,” the crew had to walk to the location of the pond before they could begin attempts to rescue Chao, according to the incident report from a Blanco County first responder.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/10/business/angela-chao-death/index.html

[Attilatheblond]

32. Seems Tesla knows there are problems with some of the batteries

But they want it kept on the down low https://cleantechnica.com/2024/12/29/tesla-is-secretly-recalling-cybertruck-batteries/]

Lil bit below, but the article is mighty interesting and a bit of an eyebrow raiser. Check it out

The Tesla service screenshot said “Cybertruck—High Voltage Battery Replacement (Cell Side Dent Induced Core Collapse).” Say what?? Matt reached out to the Tesla service team and asked “Hi. It looks like there was an additional work item regarding a battery replacement. Can you explain what that means?” They responded as follows: “Hey Matthew, this is a proactive replacement as our engineering team has noticed that some cells may have side dents, which can cause shorting in cells in packs developed around your car’s production date.” Three months later, Christmas week, a similar report has come out. A Cybertruck owner brought his truck in to fix a sideview mirror he had accidentally smashed while backing out of the garage in a rush. “Consequently, I submitted a service request to have it replaced. Within two minutes, Tesla approved the request, but the estimate included that they were also replacing the high-voltage battery. Surprisingly, I haven’t encountered any issues with the battery, nor have I received any error messages,” this owner, “ill1cit,” wrote.

[Maggiemayhem]

85. Was this Mitch McConnels sister in law?

[Wiz Imp]

91. Yes

[h2ebits]

4. NOT President Trump. He's former President Trump or President-elect Trump

[FBaggins]

28. Any of the above are acceptable

Can we really not refer to president Carter when discussing his passing? We can’t mention president Obama? We have to cease referring to president Biden in three
Weeks?

Seems needlessly childish when he takes office three weeks from now.

https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/Press-Releases/display-pressreleases/Article/4017547/us-navy-statements-on-passing-of-president-jimmy-carter/

https://www.archives.gov/news/articles/national-archives-mourns-passing-of-president-jimmy-carter

[h2ebits]

42. Not in my eyes for this evil man. . ..

It is not "needlessly childish" on my part either. I suggest you find better ways to spend your time than needlessly attacking me.

As the song goes: "Let it go! Let it go! Let it go!"

[Bernardo de La Paz]

52. Even you are wrong

It's Vice President elect tRump.

Or co-President, if you insist.

[h2ebits]

61. LOL

[JI7]

5. How about the person that died ? Just a random person that was killed

while the target was Trump ?

[MichMan]

16. Pretty certain it was the driver, who remained in the vehicle when it exploded

[Attilatheblond]

34. Hope it wasn't a hotel valet

[ScratchCat]

6. The New York Post

Right

[W_HAMILTON]

70. That was my first thought as well.

Even though other reliable sources aren't any better now -- case in point, ABC News talking about how the guy in New Orleans might have been an immigrant or something along those lines when there was absolutely no reason to believe so at the time.

Obeying in advance, I think is what they call this.

[TheProle]

7. Whatever it was, it was intentional

[Dennis Donovan]

9. When it blew up. it really looks like it was full of fireworks

Link to tweet

Unless lithium batteries ignite like fireworks (they might, never saw one blow up, TBH), that sure looks like fireworks at the end.

[EX500rider]

15. I think they burn, not blow up usually

[ProfessorGAC]

90. Very Doubtful They Explide

I don't think the burn rate is high enough to actually push enough gas to call it an explosion.
Rapid conflagration; perhaps.
Can't really tell from that video, but there was no clear shock wave, and the back left side of the car didn't obviously deform.
That suggest black powder. They're reporting fireworks. I'm prone to accept that as teue.

[underpants]

40. Looks like fireworks. Agreed.

[jmowreader]

95. I don't think the traction battery caught fire in this case

If it had, the truck would have burned down to the frame rails. The body of this truck is pretty much intact.

[tinymontgomery]

10. Unless it is a MAGA doing the attacks

Unless it is a MAGA doing the attacks, every event will be considered terrorism and
they will do everything in their power to blame the Democratic Party and or liberals, especially after
Jan 20th.

[Autumn]

14. Should be easy to find out who the truck belonged to.

[Lifeafter70]

31. Chis Hays just reported

It was rented in the same way the truck in New Orleans was rented

[FBaggins]

35. Unless it was a rental

Either way - the driver doesn’t appear to have been worried about paying for it

[Autumn]

38. If it's a rental they will know who rented it.

[FBaggins]

67. It apparently was

Some reporting said that the truck in NOLA and this one were both rented using the same app (which I take to mean the same rental company not the same person)

On edit - Though I'm also seeing that the truck in NOLA came across the border in TX two days ago... so perhaps that's wrong

[Blue_Tires]

11. Of course... Everything has to be centered around King Donnie

🙄

[Think. Again.]

13. The ny post is a rightwing rag.

[AltairIV]

22. NY Post is useful only as birdcage liner.

And completely unreliable as a source for news.

[Barbegazi]

47. NY Post

Check that, a rightwing asswipe rag.

[AllyCat]

109. And ABC is working for teDump

[Celerity]

110. And yet I see it posted here regularly, much to my dismay. Every week I see more and more RW-sourced OPs here on DU.

[Think. Again.]

112. Yeah, I try to call it out when I see it...

...but sometimes it just seems like a trap.

[Blue Full Moon]

17. They are catching on fire everywhere.

People's garages, dealerships, wrecks, in front of Trump's cheap hotel.

[Callie1979]

65. But they ARENT exploding. Big difference.

[Blue Full Moon]

73. Fireworks not unusual for New Years.

[LeftInTX]

106. Not with gasoline, air canisters and lighter fluid poured on them!

[RockRaven]

18. Thought by who?

"Treating as if/acting as if" is different from "thinking/believing that"

[LetMyPeopleVote]

23. This incident illustrates the Trump-Musk presidency and its impact on America

Link to tweet

[WarGamer]

24. those who thought Butler PA was fake... with blood capsules and actors...

Are actively fantasizing about this terrorist attack.

[onethatcares]

26. correct me if I'm mistaken but

looking at the video(s) I see no one close to the thing or the doors of the motel, or on the sidewalk near the motel and wonder; If one were to do a terrorist attack wouldn't they want to kill more than themselves?

Agent Mike, if you're listening i am not promoting any type of anything, just asking a question.

[WarGamer]

30. the goal was the symbolism... a MUSK truck at TRUMP hotel.

[littlemissmartypants]

75. From another angle...

In a different video, there's clearly someone standing with luggage close to the vehicle. The video shows that person moving quickly away on the right in the last part of the video immediately after the explosion.

[LeftInTX]

81. Why is this person wearing a mask.lol???

They appear to be carrying coolers, which I assume would be for a party. But they're wearing a mask, which isn't exactly party attire. Person appears to "get away" or at least attempts to get away. 7 were injured. They don't appear to they have anything to do with cybertruck.

The person who died was in the vehicle, so this is just bystander.

However, they don't know the gender of the person who died????

“There is one deceased individual inside the Cybertruck and I don’t know whether it is a male or a female at this time,” McMahill said.

Seven other victims sustained what McMahill described as “minor” injuries as a result of the explosion.

[sarisataka]

36. There are a lot of speculations

about this and New Orleans. Most are fantasy, trying to make the incidents what we would like them to be, rather than what the evidence indicates.

In other words, same old same old

[underpants]

44. It still does have a dumpster fire element to it.

I agree. Butler happened. As much as I can’t stand him I don’t want anyone to be murdered.

[MichMan]

74. Some here still do n/t

[onenote]

25. Neither story suggests it was an attempt on Trump's life.

Not sure why the OP would promote that narrative by adding "threat to Trump" to their post.

[True Dough]

27. What the fuck happened

to competency???

[delisen]

33. Can Tesla remote control those weird trucks ? nt

[sop]

37. Assuming it's a terror attack, and the CT didn't just blow up on its own, the choice of vehicles is telling.

[Blue Full Moon]

48. They catch on fire. I think it's a engineering problem.

[sop]

62. I suspect the lithium-ion (Li-ion) batteries in the CT blew up.

These two videos are interesting. The first is a small lithium-ion (Li-ion) battery exploding on a sidewalk. The second is of the Tesla CT exploding in Las Vegas.

[jalan48]

39. And the Shock Doctrine kicks in....

[unweird]

41. Strangely enough some say the cybertruck is a terroristic threat to pedestrians

Even without the firework mortars or deliberately dangerous design.

[Blue Full Moon]

51. Well it was New Year's eve last night. A lot of people set off fireworks.

[LeftInTX]

49. Potential lives on the street and at the hotel......

[Mblaze]

58. The design of the Cybertruck

was an act of terror.

[taxi]

59. Well maybe, just maybe

some fool thought launching some celebratory fireworks in front of a dumbfucks property, from a vehicle made by a dumbfuck for dumbfucks, to entertain dumbfucks would be spectacular. And as fate would have it, it was a spectacular act of idiocy.

[Maru Kitteh]

87. You know, that's actually plausible.

Really.

[taxi]

93. lol. Hanlon's razor is good enough sometimes.

Especially given the professional wrestling gimmicks that seem to live vicariously through Trump - there is always another absurd event, something that excites the cult, something that he can use to demonstrate to his followers that portrays him to be legendary or a character of folklore. His admirers eat it up.

I mean honestly, they showed the bed of the truck. There was a gas can, some camp stove fuel, and fireworks. Come on! Someone has enough resources to plan and initiate a stunt like this, but can only think of getting some gas and firecrackers? Christ, at that rate he probably had to start smoking cigarettes so that he would be able to start a fire

Hanlon’s razor is the adage that you should “never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”. Applied broadly, this principle suggests that when assessing people’s actions, you should not assume that they acted out of a desire to cause harm, as long as there is a reasonable alternative explanation.

https://effectiviology.com/hanlons-razor/

[Bread and Circuses]

60. JD Vance did it....he's been sneaking around

[Orrex]

63. That would have been terrible or something.

I'd feel, like, so terrible.

[PCIntern]

64. Another "shot across the bow"...

Something very serious is happening

[yaesu]

66. Because of the US inept justice system and transforming into just another shithole country

terrorists see it as a soft target. Just one of many negative effects of letting fascism and capitalism destroy a country.

[ForgedCrank]

69. It absolutely

was an intentional attack. Elon Cybertruck in front of Trump hotel. Add that with the video of the incident, it was an explosive device, not battery induced

[liberal N proud]

76. Something stinks

[Historic NY]

77. Careless smoking..

According to a law enforcement official, the truck was rented via the Turo app and appeared to have a load of fireworks.

[WarGamer]

83. and the gasoline and lighter fluid dumped on the fireworks?

[William769]

78. Because of the world we are forced to live in now

I smell a rat.

[Picaro]

79. Total BS

[RedWhiteBlueIsRacist]

80. Wow, looks exactly like the one in Trump's motorcade recently!

Just sayin'.

[Ever-Green]

82. LV Police

According to the LV police during the news conference, the CyberTruck also has gasoline cans and camping fuel cans along with fireworks. I don't know what's up with that.

[Renew Deal]

84. Sounds like it was meant to burn

[Ever-Green]

86. or explode

[IcyPeas]

88. How long was it parked there? I would think this space is just a drop-off, pick-up area

[Wiz Imp]

89. This article says it was just 15 seconds.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-tower-las-vegas-cybertruck-explosion-fire/

McMahill said gasoline canisters, camp fuel canisters and large firework mortars were found in the back of the vehicle after the explosion, which occurred about 15 seconds after the vehicle pulled in front of the building. It's still unclear how the explosives were ignited, he said.

[B.See]

96. Reportedly was driving around. Maybe

the fkr made the block one time too many.

[GP6971]

98. Well, Hello again!!

[greatauntoftriplets]

100. OMG!

It's a clear case of pot, meet kettle.

[GP6971]

99. Our pizza drivers are still in your neighborhood.

[Jerry2144]

101. Already 2025 is a dumpster fire

Wait? That was a truck? It looks like a dumpster. Or rest area urinal

[IzzaNuDay]

102. If they wanted to get him, they would have been near Mar E Lago

Trump doesn't visit his properties like that...he hides in Florida

[LeftInTX]

104. That vehicle would have killed alot of people if it had exploded like most vehicles do.

The trunk was full of gasoline cans, compressed air, fireworks, and lighter fluid.

If it wasn't a Trump hotel and it if it was another hotel, they would still be looking at terrorism.

[scipan]

107. I'm sorry I clicked on this, I thought there was some news

Even NY Post says (Sheriff) "McMahill stressed that authorities are “not ruling anything out yet” and also noted that there aren’t any indications of a connection between the electric truck blast and ISIS. "

And the title is "Trump hotel Tesla Cybertruck explosion probed as possible terror act as vehicle was rented with same app as truck from New Orleans massacre""

Clickbait

[AllyCat]

108. Both news agencies cited have ties to him.

I’ll wait for more reliable sources.

[LeftInTX]

111. Cybertruck guy ID'd as former Green Beret residing in Colorado Springs. Possibly still active duty.

https://www.koaa.com/news/crime/fbi-investigating-at-townhouse-complex-in-colorado-springs-wednesday-evening


https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-livelsberger-514ab383/