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[Dennis Donovan]

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[peachpit24]

1. I will

always think a lot of people would not vote for a woman. Men and women still think a woman is not strong enough and leaders of other countries would walk all over her.

[Biophilic]

2. And yet there have been many, many strong women leaders in other countries.

Are American women just naturally weaker than other nation's women? Or do Americans just want a man because they think he can 'lord it over' the other nations?

[Blue_Tires]

4. Well something is very very wrong

When voters have said on two separate occasions that the absolutely worst qualified white man to ever run for high office is preferable over the best qualified woman...

Maybe white folks can explain it to me 😐

[4catsmom]

11. American men think this

because they have so many 'masculinity' issues. most of the rest of the western world has moved on

[Blue_Tires]

3. That tells me absolutely fucking nothing

About why "workers" voted for Donnie when the economy was a mess during his first term and he was worse than Harris on literally every single economic issue... I don't know how many times I have to repeat it, but there were only TWO proposals Donnie had to help the "workers": 1. HEAVY TARIFFS and 2. MASS DEPORTATIONS... So either 100 million Americans have zero fuckin' idea how tariffs and deportations work, or maybe "the economy" wasn't the primary reason why they voted for Donnie... This is just yet another lazy and cliche post-election hot take from someone who clearly wasn't paying attention.

I'm convinced that Trump voters and the media never actually listen to anything Donnie says, they just dream up whatever they WISHED he would say and run with it...

[travelingthrulife]

7. This article is a logical mess.

Another way to blame Democrats for Republican toxicity.

[BoRaGard]

5. "Ha ha. Suckers and losers. ha ha" - The Felon (R) and Billionaire Bros, Inc. (R)

republicons having a good smirky laff about how they suckered everyone

[Yavin4]

6. Not just healthcare. It's also housing, transportation, and education.

All of these costs have risen faster than incomes. That's the disconnect. Sure, month-to-month, year-to-year, general inflation remained flat for a basket of goods in the last two years or so. But structural inflation on the overhead costs for the average American has risen higher than wages.

[mzmolly]

8. And Republicans are the reason we can't have equity or progress.

How does voting for R's help the average worker?

[patphil]

9. That piece did nothing to clarify the issue.

From the period of1980 - 2024, the Republicans held the presidency 24 of 44 years; more than half the time.
They have also controlled all or part of the legislature for at least half of that time period.
And yet we are expected to believe that the Democrats are to blame for not fixing these things?
Particularly, from 1995 to 2021 the Republicans have controlled either both or 1 of the legislative bodies 10 out of 13 years.

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/jun/25/control-house-and-senate-1900/

The chart I'm referencing only goes through Trump's presidency, but during Biden's term, the two chambers were split.
The point I'm making is that you can't make meaningful change through the legislative process when you don't have both full legislative and administrative control. How do we disentangle ourselves from the massive money mess that drives our election process without clear majorities in the Congress?
As things stand now, Trump will have at least 2 years to do what he said he would do. God help us if he does.
As for the workers who voted for Trump, they're going to find out that he no longer needs them, and will not be inclined to do anything for them. In actuality, things will probably get worse for them.
I can't say what Democrats in general learned from this past election, but I can say that I learned that the voting public at large ain't all that bright when it comes to understanding why the economy is how it is...covid, bird flu, natural disasters are all things out of anyone's control.
But the most depressing thing I learned from the past election is that the voters would rather elect someone who is more monster than man, and would reject a capable, competent, compassionate, kind black woman as being fit to lead our nation.

[speak easy]

10. White.Racism.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

LBJ