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It was not easy for Dr. Kevin Trenberth to leave the United States. An esteemed climate scientist who has published more than 600 articles on climatology, Trenberth spent more than four decades of his life in America, first teaching at the University of Illinois before joining the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), where he eventually became a distinguished scholar.
Yet by September 2019, the New Zealand native decided to return home because hed had enough of America under President Donald Trump. Trenberth has long been a fierce critic of Trump, but now things were impacting him personally.
I cannot go to NSF [the National Science Foundation] for research funds because NCAR is base funded that way, Trenberth wrote in a note to himself at the time. Nor has it been fruitful to garner funds internally, and the external grants, especially with NOAA [National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration] dried up after 2012 when NOAA put forward a proposal for a climate service but thoroughly messed it up, and Lamar Smith [R-Texas, then-chair of the Science Committee in the House] not only killed it but cut research funds for climate by 30%
https://www.yahoo.com/news/scientists-debate-fleeing-america-because-170006816.html
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Irish_Dem
(80,402 posts)Quiet Em
(2,636 posts)Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)The Madcap
(1,820 posts)Qualified experts leaving due to politics, but it's quite understandable, given the climate of anti-intellectualism that we have here.
Demobrat
(10,270 posts)our most brilliant minds with H1Bs for less money.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)because we can pay them less and they are happy to be here
surfered
(12,325 posts)So, were going to Hell in a hand basket.
Dem2theMax
(11,005 posts)It could also be a yard flag.
Either one, I'd buy them both.
surfered
(12,325 posts)Dem2theMax
(11,005 posts)Meowmee
(9,212 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,608 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,608 posts)Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)👍
AZ8theist
(7,142 posts)....was a euphamism for "Turning America into an Illiterate Shithole".....
paleotn
(21,823 posts)AZ8theist
(7,142 posts)Wicked Blue
(8,712 posts)She's a physicist. At least she's close to retirement.
paleotn
(21,823 posts)Well, other than the doomer, gloomers I often see. Blue states and some blue cities are banding together to defend our rights and not cooperate with federal grifters and relig-o-nuts. We ain't done yet. Don't be a damn quitter.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/08/blue-states-democrats-trump-resistance-00188493
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/13/blue-states-unite-resist-federal-pressure-trump-00189204
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-blue-states-battle-resistance-governors-1235205398/
slightlv
(7,583 posts)want to sponsor and help set up those of us trapped in the red states that are all in for the Idiocracy? There's only so much fighting you can do in places like this, without you, your cats, or your family being threatened. The towns, for example, are too small... everyone knows everyone else. And THEY feel free pressing their opinions, beliefs, and laws on you and yours. Many of us are not so much wanting to leave the country, but we would very much like to move where we could be accepted on our own terms and work together for the betterment of people... and the future. We just don't have any money. Doom and Gloom often circle around those feelings and situations of entrapment.
bucolic_frolic
(54,481 posts)Rule by stupid people with suspicion, fear, and ignorance.
paleotn
(21,823 posts)LudwigPastorius
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newdeal2
(5,035 posts)Probably Europe and Canada and maybe Mexico and Latin America will benefit from our brain drain.
