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PeaceWave

(3,383 posts)
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:00 AM Jan 2025

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High school and college friends? elleng Jan 2025 #1
I found out pretty quickly piddyprints Jan 2025 #39
You and me both. Iggo Jan 2025 #2
me too. Think. Again. Jan 2025 #9
Yeah, a heap of trolls canetoad Jan 2025 #3
Uh, depends how you use it. electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #12
There's no way to use FB canetoad Jan 2025 #14
Well, unless it gets really *nasty, and my people are staying wherein it might be way more... electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #17
You want it to get MORE nasty? Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #20
It's very easy to avoid any controversial or hateful content there. yardwork Jan 2025 #33
It doesn't matter. Your use of it puts money in his pocket through Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #40
I respect your opinion and choice not to use it. yardwork Jan 2025 #41
Most of those don't make a policy to say it's ok to refer to me as property. Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #42
I buy books from publishers that publish worse than that. yardwork Jan 2025 #43
. Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #49
Yes, I saw this. It's hedious, disgusting. electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #55
Just try to have a revolution to end rampant unregulated capitalism in this country. travelingthrulife Jan 2025 #26
Not really I manage 3 accounts... Historic NY Jan 2025 #4
I *think* there is a way to download all of your Facebook info before deleting. LuckyCharms Jan 2025 #23
Brain rot, misinformation, emotional manipulation, and engineered habit formation. RockRaven Jan 2025 #5
If you haven't seen an old classmate in ages and were wondering what they had for dinner last night, Facebook is for you unblock Jan 2025 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jan 2025 #7
That's pretty much the Facebook experience, in a nutshell. yardwork Jan 2025 #44
Me too, and I'm glad for that... Think. Again. Jan 2025 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jan 2025 #11
Yeah, for some reason they are reaaaallllyy into it. So I'd rather stay away from it. Think. Again. Jan 2025 #13
I use it to keep in contact with a small group of family and friends. CentralMass Jan 2025 #10
OK, this discussion is reassuring jmbar2 Jan 2025 #15
I use FB to partly keep up with family and friends outside of my immediate area, to clear across the country, and.. electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #16
Helped me meet and collaborate with tons of folks in comedy, music, and film thebigidea Jan 2025 #18
I've never used it Skittles Jan 2025 #19
I've never used it. Nothing to do with my principles, I just don't like putting information about myself online. Midnight Writer Jan 2025 #21
Nah, the golden age of Farce Book was over a decade ago. Hugin Jan 2025 #22
Not really Johonny Jan 2025 #24
I keep up with family Johnny2X2X Jan 2025 #25
Not really. Lunabell Jan 2025 #27
You are missing nothing of value. City Lights Jan 2025 #28
It depends... Happy Hoosier Jan 2025 #29
I've enjoyed catching up with people from my past. Gore1FL Jan 2025 #30
I have an account but almost never post anything. yardwork Jan 2025 #31
It was actually pretty good in the beginning Cattledog Jan 2025 #32
No claudette Jan 2025 #34
not really pamdb Jan 2025 #35
I have never used or signed up for Facebook, Twitter, TikTok or the like. Diamond_Dog Jan 2025 #36
I have never done any of this. murielm99 Jan 2025 #37
You have missed nothing Unladen Swallow Jan 2025 #38
I like it. Elessar Zappa Jan 2025 #45
Same with me Kaleva Jan 2025 #50
Very worthwhile for me EX500rider Jan 2025 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jan 2025 #47
You base that on a few replies in a single thread in one forum? Kaleva Jan 2025 #52
It was at one time one of the easiest ways to have a private group karynnj Jan 2025 #48
No. /nt sdfernando Jan 2025 #51
Facebook groups are great. One of my favorites in a whiskey group. Groundhawg Jan 2025 #53
It is nice to commuicate with your friends other than that a waste. nt doc03 Jan 2025 #54
It depends. Ms. Toad Jan 2025 #56
A lot of misogyny. For those who remember ... legallyblondeNYC Jan 2025 #57

elleng

(141,926 posts)
1. High school and college friends?
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:04 AM
Jan 2025

They amount to most of my fb 'friends'.

piddyprints

(15,107 posts)
39. I found out pretty quickly
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 11:45 AM
Jan 2025

that there's a reason we lost touch with each other.

My real friends and I have had each other's address/phone number/email all these years. I didn't need FB to find them.

Iggo

(49,927 posts)
2. You and me both.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:08 AM
Jan 2025

No Facebook.
No twitter.
No tik tok.
And no whatever the next thing is.

I seem to get along just fine without ‘em.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
9. me too.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:26 AM
Jan 2025

canetoad

(20,769 posts)
3. Yeah, a heap of trolls
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:10 AM
Jan 2025

Countless tragics wanting to 'befriend' you and a shit load of AI and advertising. You don't know what you're missing.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
12. Uh, depends how you use it.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:39 AM
Jan 2025

canetoad

(20,769 posts)
14. There's no way to use FB
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:45 AM
Jan 2025

That doesn't benefit Zuck. That should be enough for you.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
17. Well, unless it gets really *nasty, and my people are staying wherein it might be way more...
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 03:12 AM
Jan 2025

difficult to have our group interactions I'll probably stay. Not giving up some valued 30 yr old connections that may not be sustainable in other ways.

If they (these peeps) plus fam & other friends figure something else then I will go w that with instead.

*excessive bots, trolls busting in (never happened on my feed ever), lots of trump supporting ick etc.

Scrivener7

(59,516 posts)
20. You want it to get MORE nasty?
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 07:59 AM
Jan 2025

yardwork

(69,360 posts)
33. It's very easy to avoid any controversial or hateful content there.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 11:19 AM
Jan 2025

In fact, I question whether there is much controversial happening on Facebook at all.

Younger people laugh at it. It's become a place for older folks like me who want to look at one another's cat photos.

I suspect Zuckerberg made this change partly in the hope that it might attract more controversy and activity. Facebook is on its way out as its users become almost entirely aging boomers. It's not a hotbed of hate language and I doubt this change will make much difference.

Scrivener7

(59,516 posts)
40. It doesn't matter. Your use of it puts money in his pocket through
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 12:13 PM
Jan 2025

his ability to say, "XYZ number of people use my platform" and receiving revenue on that basis.

Also, he's selling your information without your permission to people you don't want to have it.

Finally, your own post confirms that you believe - I think accurately - that he's making these changes so the platform gets nastier. Specifically nastier to women. Specifically, by encouraging users to verbally abuse women.

It baffles me that people think it's OK to support things that are in direct conflict with their stated values.

yardwork

(69,360 posts)
41. I respect your opinion and choice not to use it.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:24 PM
Jan 2025

It's probably the rational choice. For me, it isn't that important one way or the other. Google uses and sells my data in ways I don't approve. So do my credit card companies.

I don't like the insurance companies I'm forced to choose among, the auto companies that make our cars, the oil companies and the electric companies, etc.

I know people who lead more intentional lives than I do and I respect that. At this point, I'm balancing my own needs with my expression of values. If I were going to lean into that, I'd go vegetarian before I started dropping social media.

Scrivener7

(59,516 posts)
42. Most of those don't make a policy to say it's ok to refer to me as property.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:36 PM
Jan 2025

yardwork

(69,360 posts)
43. I buy books from publishers that publish worse than that.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:04 PM
Jan 2025

I think it's a shame (literally) that greed and ugliness has taken over all our communication channels.

TBH, I'm more worried about the possibility of FB becoming a platform for promoting sexual abuse of children and trafficked victims than I am about reading some moron's comment about me being property.

Zuckerberg is missing out on the revenue Twitter gets being a sewer for the worst of human behavior. I guess he wants to catch up.

Scrivener7

(59,516 posts)
49. .
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 04:46 PM
Jan 2025
"TBH, I'm more worried about the possibility of FB becoming a platform for promoting sexual abuse of children and trafficked victims "


But why would you support them, then?

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
55. Yes, I saw this. It's hedious, disgusting.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 05:37 PM
Jan 2025

travelingthrulife

(5,179 posts)
26. Just try to have a revolution to end rampant unregulated capitalism in this country.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 10:58 AM
Jan 2025

Folks are still too comfy.

Historic NY

(40,037 posts)
4. Not really I manage 3 accounts...
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:11 AM
Jan 2025

Zuck Meta wants me to buy ads . They drive me nuts. Mostly I deal with people that are clueless on how to use Facebook. They don't know enough to click on a photo to get the description, or they don't read the comments. I'm trying to figure out to de-platform, but unfortunately there are over 9000 photos on one of them,

I don't use my personal one much beyond family and thats sparse too.

LuckyCharms

(22,645 posts)
23. I *think* there is a way to download all of your Facebook info before deleting.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 10:08 AM
Jan 2025

I never downloaded anything, but I think it is explained somewhere on the site how to do it.

I deactivated my account about 8 years ago.

RockRaven

(19,365 posts)
5. Brain rot, misinformation, emotional manipulation, and engineered habit formation.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:12 AM
Jan 2025

unblock

(56,198 posts)
6. If you haven't seen an old classmate in ages and were wondering what they had for dinner last night, Facebook is for you
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:18 AM
Jan 2025

Response to unblock (Reply #6)

yardwork

(69,360 posts)
44. That's pretty much the Facebook experience, in a nutshell.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:04 PM
Jan 2025
 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
8. Me too, and I'm glad for that...
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:26 AM
Jan 2025

...never had an account, the only thing I might be missing is facebook's 'marketplace' which is like the old craigslist for buying and selling things, but I also know a LOT of magats use that so I don't really think I need it that bad.

Response to Think. Again. (Reply #8)

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
13. Yeah, for some reason they are reaaaallllyy into it. So I'd rather stay away from it.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:40 AM
Jan 2025

CentralMass

(16,971 posts)
10. I use it to keep in contact with a small group of family and friends.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:30 AM
Jan 2025

Since l live alone and am a bit if a loner it helps me keep in touch with people, most of whom are on the other side of the country. FB, at least up to now, has a feature that asks if you want to see more ore less if "this type of content". I always say no if I get any pro tRump or rw nutjob post and as a result, I don't really get any. I have a few right wing "friends" on there but I generally politely excoriate them if they post right wing or pro tRump bullshit.
However. if they drop those filter, I'll drop Facebook.

jmbar2

(7,986 posts)
15. OK, this discussion is reassuring
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:50 AM
Jan 2025

I was on FB for about a couple of hours, and was thoroughly creeped out at the thought of my life being so public. Bailed out and never looked again.

When I was working, I always wondered if prospective employers would find it odd that I didn't have much of a social media trail.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
16. I use FB to partly keep up with family and friends outside of my immediate area, to clear across the country, and..
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:52 AM
Jan 2025

occasionally Europe.

It's easy to share photos. Get on quickly if something is happening. I've given quick heads up on certain events, or problems. I have certain friends I haven't seen in years, but we share some common interests, and a certain larger group of people.

I hardly ever do politics. My friends, and family know what I am.

I don't get any MAGA stuff.

Plus I have a bunch of interest groups.

Not been on for several months bc of a phone # change. Couldn't get back to my original account.

It seems someone spoofed me w my real name (I use a different last name) However i didn't realize that back then.
When a friend pointed it out I totally stopped using it. Almost 5 + months?

Trying to get my original # back if i can.

If my people are staying on there, I'm probably staying.

thebigidea

(13,576 posts)
18. Helped me meet and collaborate with tons of folks in comedy, music, and film
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 04:03 AM
Jan 2025

From legends to lunatics. It's been good for work.

Skittles

(171,704 posts)
19. I've never used it
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 04:07 AM
Jan 2025

and I have managed to "keep up" with friends and relatives just fine

Midnight Writer

(25,404 posts)
21. I've never used it. Nothing to do with my principles, I just don't like putting information about myself online.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 09:57 AM
Jan 2025

I also find that relationships I had in the past and did not maintain are best kept in the past. The last thing I want is for someone I worked with 50 years ago or some classmate from 70 years ago to contact me.

Hugin

(37,847 posts)
22. Nah, the golden age of Farce Book was over a decade ago.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 10:04 AM
Jan 2025

It’s gotten to be more trouble than it’s worth to maintain my very tiny soap bubble of sanity there. No way would I start anything new.

Johonny

(26,173 posts)
24. Not really
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 10:10 AM
Jan 2025

We good 10 to 12 years ago for catching up on old friends. Mostly use it to post kid pictures for my parents. Twitter was actually the better product. But Twitter is dead to me.

Johnny2X2X

(24,203 posts)
25. I keep up with family
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 10:51 AM
Jan 2025

That's it.

As far as old friends, it gives a false sense that you still know people when you don't really know them. If you don't speak to soemone at least on the phone for years, you don't really know them anymore.

 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
27. Not really.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 11:01 AM
Jan 2025

I am deleting mine today.

City Lights

(25,822 posts)
28. You are missing nothing of value.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 11:02 AM
Jan 2025

I used to have a FB account, used mostly to play stupid games, but Zuckerburg ticked me off so much that I deleted it years ago. I don't miss it at all.

Happy Hoosier

(9,533 posts)
29. It depends...
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 11:04 AM
Jan 2025

A lot of groups I'm in use it to stay in touch, organize events, etc.

Makes it easy to stay in touch with family that otherwise we aren't in contact with.

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
30. I've enjoyed catching up with people from my past.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 11:05 AM
Jan 2025

It's not the devil.

The problem is there are people who are willing to take un-verified news and believe and share it. That happens on other platforms too; including DU. The problem is the size of the user base willing to spread bullshit.

It's a tool. It probably needs regulation.

yardwork

(69,360 posts)
31. I have an account but almost never post anything.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 11:12 AM
Jan 2025

In other words, I lurk. I stay in touch with old friends from high school and some local friends, but it's a superficial connection. I click "like" or "sympathy" on their posts, like on DU.

Some people like to post everyday. I've unfriended all the Trumpsters so it's mostly a benign parade of photos of get-togethers, vacations, and wildlife or sunsets outside their window. I find it soothing in a way similar to watching people's vacation slides decades ago, only now I can do it in bed at 11 pm.

Also, there are now a ton of groups dedicated to special interests, sort of like old-fashioned newsletters. I follow groups who post photos of moss gardens, native plants, antique glassware, etc. I also watch clips of road rage incidents and bridezillas. I know I'm being manipulated but it's mesmerizing.

I doubt the new fact-checking rules will affect my experience, which I've curated to be a controversy-free bubble of blandness.

Cattledog

(6,654 posts)
32. It was actually pretty good in the beginning
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 11:19 AM
Jan 2025

but has been slowly getting worse but now it's gonna be a toxic hell.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
34. No
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 11:28 AM
Jan 2025

pamdb

(1,439 posts)
35. not really
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 11:29 AM
Jan 2025

My husband dropped his I think back in 2016. I only keep mine because I have one niece and a couple of his brothers who sometimes post pictures of their kids. And, when I want to sell something, I can post it on Marketplace. That's it.I keep thinking, one of these days...

Diamond_Dog

(40,569 posts)
36. I have never used or signed up for Facebook, Twitter, TikTok or the like.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 11:29 AM
Jan 2025

I seem to be getting along just fine without them.

murielm99

(32,988 posts)
37. I have never done any of this.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 11:33 AM
Jan 2025
 

Unladen Swallow

(491 posts)
38. You have missed nothing
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 11:40 AM
Jan 2025

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
45. I like it.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:05 PM
Jan 2025

I’m a member of several hobby groups where we talk about things, compare items, stuff like that. I don’t see objectionable material.

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
50. Same with me
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 04:55 PM
Jan 2025

I belong to a variety of groups covering home canning, dehydrating, chickens, meat rabbits, homesteading and such

EX500rider

(12,581 posts)
46. Very worthwhile for me
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 02:14 PM
Jan 2025

Besides keeping up with friends & family around the country...

I am a member with many groups that give me tons of stuff to do...dog park meetup groups, local city stuff to do coming up, interest groups for many hobbies I have, school reunion groups, various car & motorcycle & work truck groups with lots of help on fixing & getting parts etc (the last one has been a life saver, my work truck is a 1977 Chevy C-60 & finding parts would be really hard without the group help)

Response to PeaceWave (Original post)

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
52. You base that on a few replies in a single thread in one forum?
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 04:59 PM
Jan 2025

I suggest you instead look for reputable sources that have actually researched this.

karynnj

(60,965 posts)
48. It was at one time one of the easiest ways to have a private group
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 04:36 PM
Jan 2025

I come from a very close family where I was one of nine kids. Once the nine of us started to have kids, my parents subsidized a yearly 5 day reunion starting in 1985. It was very important to them that the grandkids, growing up all over the country would really know each other. We have had reunions every year except for 2020.

Even though they accomplished many things during their 72 year marriage until they both died at 93, they always spoke of the close knit group of cousins (and their kids too) as something they were proudest of.

At a reunion in 2007, a group of the cousins, then college students, showed Mom and Dad the private group they set up for our family and got them to join Facebook and the group. My mom was obviously emotional and very happy that the kids had this connection. All the grandkids "friended" mom and dad. For us parents of these college and high school kids, we realized that in addition to staying close to each other, this group really kept them from posting anything questionable knowing their parents, their aunts and uncles, and their grandparents would see it.

sdfernando

(6,084 posts)
51. No. /nt
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 04:56 PM
Jan 2025

Groundhawg

(1,218 posts)
53. Facebook groups are great. One of my favorites in a whiskey group.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 05:12 PM
Jan 2025

doc03

(39,085 posts)
54. It is nice to commuicate with your friends other than that a waste. nt
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 05:12 PM
Jan 2025

Ms. Toad

(38,634 posts)
56. It depends.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 06:09 PM
Jan 2025

For me, it is useful.

I am a member of lots of "tribes." The tribe I was born into - multi-generation farming family in Nebraska. The tribe of my growing up community - farming community in Nebraska. My college tribe. The tribe I married into - more recent immigrants from recent Europe in Ohio. The tribe of former students (a few high school, and a lot of former law students). The tribes of multiple work-places (three of which I'm in regular contact with). My FLGBTQC+ tribe. My faith tribe. My Alzheimer's tribe (spouse has some form of mental impairment). The tribe of folks connected to my daughter's disease (a rare disease, so I know a couple hundred - most of whom live hundreds of miles away). My theater tribe. I'm sure I've missed some - and some tribe-adjacent folks have found me as friends of friends. So I have a very loose tribe of people I've never even met in person.

Because the members of my tribe are far flung (including several outside of the US, and likely some in each state), keeping in touch is much easier through facebook. I would have (and did) lose contact with most of my high school classmates over the years - but thanks to facebook I was able to return to my 50th class reunion this summer. Because both I and my family moved from my hometown, I missed several intervening reunions - but between the 40th and 50th I had been back in touch with a dozen or so, so they found me and gave me details.

Politics are, as you might imagine from the description of my tribes, all over the board. While it is extremely painful to read the posts of a beloved high school teacher who is solidly MAGA, other contacts across political boundaries are more productive. I am not secretive on my facebook page - so anyone paying attention knows I'm married to a woman and a progressive. We don't always explicitly talk about our differences - but we do sometimes. And in my conservative farming community high school reunion, no one batted an eyelash when I brought my wife of 40+ years to the reunion. Whether or not they approve of my life, none were critical to my face - and several who I'm sure would vote my marriage out of existence welcomed her into our group. Not only that, but everyone was respectful about my trans high school sweetheart, and tried very hard to use her name and correct gender when they asked me about her.

I can easily ignore the ads/sponsored stories - the same as I do commercials on TV or radio. I can't even begin to count the number of times my daughter or spouse have commented on a commercial - and my response is, "huh"?

For me, at least until the recent changes, it definitely enriches my life. Whether it will continue to do so - time will tell. If enough are chased away because of an increase in blatant MAGA posts and insults - maybe not. But as long at it serves my purposes, I'll keep spending time there.

legallyblondeNYC

(168 posts)
57. A lot of misogyny. For those who remember ...
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 07:18 PM
Jan 2025

Facebook's original purpose was to rate young women attending Harvard. It was a slam book - always.

I once had an account for about 10 minutes. I quickly realized that to suggest "friends," it was reading my email. To me, it was just creepy. VERY CREEPY.

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