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[BlueTsunami2018]

1. How is this his fault?

How can you assign blame to a single person for a natural disaster?

[Cattledog]

4. I didn't say it was his fault but he will get the blame.

[applegrove]

11. The blame goes squarely to Climate Change.

[Cattledog]

23. Agreed, but in the age of Musk/Trump he will be on their hit list.

They want try & eliminate him before 2028

[BlueTsunami2018]

22. Unless he was out there with a barrel of gas and a blowtorch....

igniting the corpse of Smokey the Bear after shooting him, no reasonable person could blame him for this.

But I suppose that’s your point.

[Cattledog]

24. No reasonable person would have voted for Trump either.

I get your point.

[Walleye]

2. Hundred mile an hour winds, how can it possibly be the governor's fault?

[Cattledog]

5. Not the winds but the response. Too little too late.

[Walleye]

7. I really don't have a lot of respect for second-guessing. Anybody could've figured out what should've been done

I think all the immediate second-guessing can really hinder emergency operations. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion.

[obamanut2012]

9. The response has not been too little too late

What the heck atr you saying??? I'm out here, the response has been excellent.

Wtf

[Wiz Imp]

26. You are amplifying right wing framing of this. It is not helpful and should not be done on DU.

To point out what the right wing is saying is fine. But to just accept it and not push back on it is effectively doing the right wing's job of spreading disinformation for them.

[XanaDUer2]

3. Why?

[Patton French]

6. Not seeing this.

NT

[EarthFirst]

8. Right or wrong; anyone assigning blame ought to get one in the kisser... nt

[DeepWinter]

10. Posts on Facebook and Instagram

are already slamming him and LA's mayor. People love to assign blame, someone always gets stuck with it, right or wrong.

[applegrove]

13. That would be astro-turf on the internet curtesy of

MAGA and the oligarchs.

[Sanity Claws]

12. I can't imagine thinking that at this point

I am concerned about the welfare of the people, animals, etc in the way of the fire. I'm not thinking about a human to blame for the this tragedy.

I refuse to jump on this bandwagon seeking someone to blame rightly or wrongly.

[applegrove]

14. It is climate change.

[sop]

15. 'Trump seizes on Los Angeles infernos to reopen his feud with Newsom'

"The incoming president wasted no time in laying the blame for simultaneous wildfires raging in the Los Angeles area that have so far killed at least five people...Trump slammed “the gross incompetence and mismanagement of the Biden/Newscum Duo"...He claimed that California environmental policies that divert fresh water to preserve wetlands and wildlife were to blame for hydrants running dry. “I will demand that this incompetent governor allow beautiful, clean, fresh water to FLOW INTO CALIFORNIA! He is the blame for this,” Trump wrote as part of a flurry of social media posts, later writing that Newsom should resign."

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/08/politics/trump-newsom-los-angeles-fires-analysis/index.html

[The Wizard]

16. Whatever Trump says is false

And anyone complicit in spreading his lies is a fake American allied with Putin.
Pox News and Trump / MAGA are Putin's outlets for Russian propaganda.

[Maru Kitteh]

17. Pffffft.

I find this fear to be unwarranted.

[Lovie777]

18. People, residence, fire fighters, volunteers, etc.............

are not blaming, it's corporate media and mostly rightwinger assholes.

I live here and watched on tv the beginning of the small fire with high winds. I hope it was not a human factor that caused this, and fuck the MAGAs.

[cally]

19. That's ridiculous to blame Newsom

In California, we live with the threat and reality of wildfires every year. We all know it’s a possibility due to climate change, natural ecosystem, and building in natural areas. Remember, Republicans keep cutting help to California.

[Mike 03]

20. It's jolting to see Rick Caruso talking points about this

tragedy on DU. Caruso, the wealthy real estate developer who ran for Mayor of Los Angeles and lost, has been giving interviews to whoever will accept him, making this point and blasting the mayor for being on an overseas trip. His daughter lost her home in the Palisades, which is very sad. But many people think his criticism is simplistic, self-serving and politically motivated.

Yes, people will talk about this fire for some time--at least until the next catastrophic wildfire, which could be a week or a month from now.

[Prairie Gates]

21. What a disgusting post

[JI7]

25. This is social media bs which hurt Biden and Harris

People just spewing ignorant simplistic bs and ignorant masses agreeing to it.

I saw one ignorant bs which brought up how Biden gave aid to Ukraine and tried to connect that to the fires.

[Nixie]

27. Too simplistic. Trump said Newsom wouldn't sign a document that doesn't

exist. I liked Newsom’s response that the document was pure fiction. Trump’s cult will agree with you, as will the climate deniers, but this might be a good time for Newsom to showcase Trump’s lies.

[lapfog_1]

28. what, exactly. did he DO or NOT DO

that has either caused+ this fire or made it worse?

Be specific.

If this had been a major earthquake, would that be Newsom's fault?

[Lovie777]

30. Yes, per MAGAs...............

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. It's more like climate change is to blame!!

[lapfog_1]

34. This is EXACTLY Climate Change

coupled with the fact that we cannot build wood structures ( or mostly wood ) AND put those structures in the middle of forested areas that are subject to Santa Ana winds ( down slope and offshore direction ). We will need to change where we can live and how we build things.

Sadly because I want to live with trees all around my house with lots of space to the next neighbor too... but with climate change... we can not do this anymore.

Just like we cannot build homes close to the ocean in the Gulf ( of MEXICO ) or along the southern east coast of the USA either.

January is the middle of the California "wet" season... but LA has had NO significant rain this season.

What has changed? Reliable patterns of seasonal rains have been completely disrupted by our warming planet. Just like western North Carolina doesn't usually ( or ever ) have a hurricane rain itself out over Asheville in the past either.

Predictable? YUP... all these events have BEEN predicted by Climate scientists for 30 years now. But people didn't listen. Many still are not listening. Not that we would have been able to depopulate these areas or even cut all the trees and brush down in the burn areas just like we never stopped people from building homes ( or even rebuilding them ) in the danger zones.

[Quiet Em]

31. Governor Newsom is not responsible for this.

Every person that MAGA believes might run for POTUS in 28 will be relentlessly criticized until then. There is a reason Hillary Clinton called them deplorable. Because they are deplorable. People are still in harms way and deplorables think they can use it for their own personal gain. It's gross.

[FSogol]

32. Only in the minds of MAGAts.

[hunter]

33. Considering the tragedies yet to come, this will soon be forgotten.

I'm glad I don't live in a Republican state.

[evemac]

35. Colorado's democratic governor Polis did not get blamed

For the Marshall fires 3 years ago near Boulder.