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After months of delay, legal sparring, and constitutional uncertainty, President-elect Donald Trump was sentenced to an unconditional discharge over his felony conviction on 34 counts of falsifying business records related to hush money paid to porn star Stormy Daniels.
The unconditional discharge sentence which is what the prosecution requested allows Trump to avoid any prison time, fines, probation, or other punishment, as in just over a week he will be sworn in as president and receive immunity from legal repercussions.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-sentenced-unconditional-discharge-hush-money-case-1235230935/
travelingthrulife
(5,179 posts)emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)Quite an accomplishment.
orangecrush
(30,256 posts)There is a class that is above the law.
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)Judge Merchan:
surfered
(13,463 posts)All crooks will now be running for President .
riversedge
(80,810 posts)riversedge
(80,810 posts)Jose Garcia
(3,506 posts)emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)riversedge
(80,810 posts)Autumn
(48,962 posts)DeepWinter
(931 posts)$20 Trump would get off 100% scott free. I just knew that's how it would work. Punishment is for us tax paying working class.
Traildogbob
(13,018 posts)I guess we can stop saying people of color get the harshest justice there is.
Maybe we should all paint ourselves orange if we face a judge.
Now he is empowered even more to do whatever the fuck he wants to this country. Consequences
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Get that fuck outta here!!!!😡🤬🖕🏿🖕🏾🖕🏽🖕🏼🇺🇸
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)...on trump's sentencing day... He is NOT a sitting President.
underpants
(196,494 posts)orangecrush
(30,256 posts)gab13by13
(32,319 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,876 posts)His travel options just might be affected. We know he loves to travel around on our dime and be all impotent (deliberate spelling) and shit
Lokee11
(407 posts)He does not need any votes - he has all the votes he needs!
Perfectly normal thing to say and express while out campaigning while running for pres and not a red flag RE: election integrity.
✊FDT!
riversedge
(80,810 posts)sarisataka
(22,695 posts)way to roll over and show your belly.
Why didn't they just request the convictions be thrown out and have his record expunged? That will eventually happen anyway.
wishstar
(5,829 posts)and he would have if he hadn't been pardoned before his sentencing since it's doubtful Hunter would have received only an unconditional discharge.
Kid Berwyn
(24,393 posts)
Being President of the United States is the highest form of Control Fraud yet devised. However, should realprezidunt Elon Musk become president of Earth or Mars, all bets are off.
https://www.acamstoday.org/white-collar-crime-an-overview-of-the-crimes-more-than-80-year-existence/
La Coliniere
(1,932 posts)They are both apolitical and very cynical about American politics. They havent voted in many years and hold the opinion that our system of government is entirely corrupt and that justice for all is an absurd joke. Ive pushed back on their arguments in the past. Sad to say theyve been correct in their appraisal of our judicial system and Im now in their camp.
Rebl2
(17,740 posts)but they are right. Many of the very wealthy, it seems anymore, get away with breaking laws. The rest of us nobodies would go to prison for less than what they did. I do continue to vote and will as long as I am able to.
RANDYWILDMAN
(3,163 posts)What a piece of garbage.
Did Cohen serve like 3 years for the same crime and he is the boss, so his punishment should be worse than that?
gab13by13
(32,319 posts)Her testimony was minor but she worked in the White House which will give the Supreme Court an excuse to overturn the conviction.
Sundance1220
(285 posts)And next time there will be no hindrance of his office to stop the maximum penalty. This will hang over his head until the day he dies.
Passages
(4,161 posts)Holding any citizen to account should be a priority and until we meet that challenge we have failed. We should not need "courageous" judges/prosecutors, our laws should be clear. If they are muddied, then we must demand our lawmakers change said laws.
Indictments of a sitting or former president remain an uncertain area of Constitutional law. The Constitution does not directly address indictments for either, and the Supreme Court has never had an opportunity to rule directly on the issue. Overall, most legal experts support the possibility of indicting a former president at least for certain crimes, but there is less consensus on the indictment of a sitting president.
SNIP
The Department of Justice (DOJ) has a continuing policy since the 1970s that sitting presidents cannot be indicted as it would unconstitutionally prevent them from performing their duties as the head of the executive branch (see this Attorney General Memo). Essentially, if a president became indicted, this position holds that the entire Executive would be compromised from fulfilling its obligations given the unique powers of the president. This privilege does not extend to any other person, including the vice president. This line of reasoning has been supported by Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story in a treatise and strongly argued for by Justice Samuel Alito in a dissent in Trump v. Vance, 140 S. Ct. 2412. Further, the executive branch has complete prosecutorial discretion, which in theory gives the president authority over whether to indict themselves. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/indictment_of_presidents
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(2,035 posts)Rebl2
(17,740 posts)They have been saying that all week.
DSandra
(1,719 posts)Everyones bending the knee
