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[Karadeniz]

1. Scripture rejects those stances.

[Karadeniz]

16. Thinking is not encouraged.

[Climate Crusader]

3. I'm a Christian and I don't hate anyone. This is just foolish.

The core of my liberalism is my faith. Just Foolish.

[H2O Man]

4. I agree.

The christian right wing is offensive. But that should not result in good people insulting christians as a group.

[The Revolution]

5. Same

These types of posts push people away. Then we complain about Democrats not voting. Sometimes I wonder if I still have a place in the Democratic party.

[Climate Crusader]

7. There is plenty of room at the table for the Christian Left.

And while I'm waiting for the return of the Peace and Love movement, I'm going to search my closet for that old Godspell album!!!

[Climate Crusader]

11. Sure thing.

Could you translate it into English?

[BlueKota]

6. I don't believe in stereo typing

There are people who identify as Christians who find tsf to be just as heinous and revolting as atheists, agnostic, and other religious denominations.

I had and have my problems with the Catholic Church which is why I left, but the gospels presented to us at mass gave the polar opposite message of what tsf and his minions preach.

The gospels we had read to us told us greed is sinful, that we were meant to love all people, give someone the coat of your back if they needed it, and to feed the hungry. Also that it was God's job to judge people as to whether they were sinners or not, not ours. That's why I still consider myself a Christian.

I am going to lapse into a bit of hypocrisy here, myself though because I am judging magats in my own way. Where ever their souls end up is not my call, but I don't view them as true Christians no matter what they call themselves.

Jesus is said to have forewarned that there would be those that came in his name, but were not from him. That they would do so to benefit themselves and not to love and honor God. Everytime tsf sells an autographed bible, or " born again christians" claim that Jesus sent tsf, or a televangelist begs for donations" that screams to me, that they were exactly who he was talking about, and that we should not follow their lead.

[BlueKota]

13. I am not making excues for anyone.

I am simply saying not all Christians are the same as some here are trying to imply. Some of us are liberals because of our faith. President Carter was a Christian. President Biden and President Kennedy were Catholic. Not all of us are like those that glorify the orange asshat.

[iemanja]

18. Men like Jimmy Carter?

What is your excuse for not being like that Christian?

[Mariana]

10. There is no evidence, either way. You have to take them at their word.

It's certainly not my job to decide who's a Christian and who isn't. The Christians themselves don't agree on what it means to be a Christian. How many thousands of denominations are there?

However, the whole point of Christianity is that Christians get forgiven for all of their sins, right? Salvation is a matter of faith, not behavior. So it doesn't matter what they do, only what they believe.

[BlueKota]

14. The way we were taught forgiveness wasn't unconditional.

You first had to admit your sin, feel true remorse for it; apologize and make reparation to whom ever you may have harmed by committing it.

I have always believed unless their actions cause emotional or physical damage to another, it's none of my business how other people choose to live their lives.

[Mariana]

15. There are so many different flavors of Christianity

that a person can believe or disbelieve pretty much anything, and still be accepted as a Christian of one kind or another.

[iemanja]

17. What makes non-Christians hold those beliefs?

Attributing it to one religion is simply a function of your own prejudice. There are plenty of Christians on the left, and you have deliberately insulted them.

[Meowmee]

19. Not all christians believe that

In fact most don't and try to follow the opposite.

[Patton French]

20. Is that what you believe about President Carter?

NT