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Swede

(39,484 posts)
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 01:47 PM Jan 2025

Republican congressman calls for halting of disaster relief to California

Of course he does.

Warren Davidson of Ohio says aid should be withheld until the state ravaged by wildfires reforms forestry management

A Republican US congressman from Ohio has called for federal disaster relief to be withheld from California unless the state reforms its forestry management practices that some blame for the rapid spread of wind-fanned fires that broke on Tuesday.

Warren Davidson’s remarks to Fox Business’ Maria Bartiromo on Friday came as California’s Democratic governor, Gavin Newsom, urged officials to avoid politicizing the response to the blazes which had killed people and destroyed thousands of homes.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/11/warren-davidson-republican-disaster-relief-california-wildfires

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Republican congressman calls for halting of disaster relief to California (Original Post) Swede Jan 2025 OP
That didn't take long, did it? SheltieLover Jan 2025 #1
Oh, to see Ohio burn to the ground one day Charging Triceratops Jan 2025 #27
Republicans shitify everything to score political points. The Unmitigated Gall Jan 2025 #2
Another idea, Californians tell him to STFU or they will stop subsidizing Red States Attilatheblond Jan 2025 #5
Not is his back yard so he don't care liberal N proud Jan 2025 #3
Such a kind soul! RobertDevereaux Jan 2025 #4
R's are always first in line to steal as much federal money as they can. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #6
The forests are almost entirely owned and managed by the Federal government. DBoon Jan 2025 #7
THIS Hekate Jan 2025 #15
Wow, you injected facts into this. Are you sure that's legal, to deal in facts like that? Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #17
right? barbtries Jan 2025 #26
As though 80mph winds didn't create a firestorm. Frasier Balzov Jan 2025 #8
These fuckers after continuous mass shootings scream and rant how JohnSJ Jan 2025 #9
But not for Republican builders on swampy coastlines bucolic_frolic Jan 2025 #10
It's all residential areas, you fucking imbecile. GoCubsGo Jan 2025 #11
That's not quite accurate -- this is the wild-urban interface, where homes back up to or are surrounded by LauraInLA Jan 2025 #18
Aloha Laurel.. did Griffin Cha Jan 2025 #41
Am watching the fire commissioner Linda ladeewolf Jan 2025 #30
Another cheap hack maga asshole do nothing. Klarkashton Jan 2025 #12
They also voted against disaster relief for Super Storm Sandy surfered Jan 2025 #13
A Rake the woods MAGA. Historic NY Jan 2025 #14
Totally effing ignorant. jeffreyi Jan 2025 #16
Does he want Katcat Jan 2025 #19
There's no forest floor to rake because....there's no fucking forest!!! paleotn Jan 2025 #23
It was a forest fire? Tell us the name of the forest, Mr. Davidson.... Sogo Jan 2025 #20
The Republican rush to say the dumbest fucking thing possible is something to behold. NoMoreRepugs Jan 2025 #21
Forest management has nothing, I repeat NOTHING to do with these particular fires. paleotn Jan 2025 #22
That's my congressman Norbert Jan 2025 #24
You bdamomma Jan 2025 #29
that's almost a slam to idiots Skittles Jan 2025 #32
Sorry to hear that lonely bird Jan 2025 #36
Gerrymandering at work in Ohio. I live in Ohio. No Vested Interest Jan 2025 #38
Give back the money for that rail disaster. fargone Jan 2025 #25
I'm sick of these people. Solly Mack Jan 2025 #28
disgusting Skittles Jan 2025 #31
Because all voters in CA vote blue. ??? CrispyQ Jan 2025 #33
The fires are burning buildings not Figarosmom Jan 2025 #34
Dude you should face some karmic payback for that comment! kimbutgar Jan 2025 #35
The guy should blame himself since the federal government is in charge of much of the land there. Vinca Jan 2025 #37
Hurricane season is coming around the bend ... Tarzanrock Jan 2025 #39
I knew that would come cut off funds to the Blue state. nt doc03 Jan 2025 #40
What does forestry management have to do with fires that took place in a totally urban setting? Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #42
Putinist struggle4progress Jan 2025 #43
There is no management that will work here. alarimer Jan 2025 #44
 
27. Oh, to see Ohio burn to the ground one day
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 04:13 PM
Jan 2025

At least there's no Super Bowl trophies to save there.

The Unmitigated Gall

(4,710 posts)
2. Republicans shitify everything to score political points.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 01:51 PM
Jan 2025

Here's an idea, no federal aid for mid-western states until officials there find a way to stop things from getting blown down.

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
6. R's are always first in line to steal as much federal money as they can.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 01:55 PM
Jan 2025

But refuse to let anyone else have legitimate assistance.

DBoon

(24,982 posts)
7. The forests are almost entirely owned and managed by the Federal government.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 01:56 PM
Jan 2025

Newsom could not change how they are managed if he wanted to

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
17. Wow, you injected facts into this. Are you sure that's legal, to deal in facts like that?
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 03:42 PM
Jan 2025
 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
9. These fuckers after continuous mass shootings scream and rant how
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 02:17 PM
Jan 2025

we shouldn’t politicize the shootings with gun legislation

Deviant hypocrites

They also ignore the fact that much of the land where these fires start is federal land

Sorry but if some misfortune befalls these rethugs, like train derailments with toxic chemicals, tornadoes, etc. I hope some throws their bullshit back in their ugly faces.

GoCubsGo

(34,909 posts)
11. It's all residential areas, you fucking imbecile.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 02:25 PM
Jan 2025

There are few, if any goddamn forests involved here. And, it's nauseating to see how many people are going right along with this idiotic bullshit.

LauraInLA

(2,248 posts)
18. That's not quite accurate -- this is the wild-urban interface, where homes back up to or are surrounded by
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 03:45 PM
Jan 2025

the Santa Monica Mountains, the Angeles National Forest, and other wild space.

Cha

(319,061 posts)
41. Aloha Laurel.. did Griffin
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 04:57 PM
Jan 2025

Park get burned?

I think that’s the name of it?

Mahalo:

Linda ladeewolf

(1,138 posts)
30. Am watching the fire commissioner
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 04:19 PM
Jan 2025

Right now, he says these fires started in the city and moved outward. If the Californians are not given aid they should not have to pay into the federal government for next few years. It should be an exemption for them.

surfered

(13,455 posts)
13. They also voted against disaster relief for Super Storm Sandy
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 02:39 PM
Jan 2025

No help for Blue States, which support the red states.

Historic NY

(40,037 posts)
14. A Rake the woods MAGA.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 02:48 PM
Jan 2025

‪Does this moron know how much land is cover with vegetation in California?

The Federal Government owns 57% of the forest lands, The state and local government have 3%, 40% is privately owned. Over one third of the state is forest, about 33 million acres.

jeffreyi

(2,571 posts)
16. Totally effing ignorant.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 03:28 PM
Jan 2025

Stupid git needs schooled about Santa Ana wind events. A rather well known, somewhat common phenomenon. "Forest management " has nothing to do with it. The "forest" is fire adapted chapparal shrub. And once the fiery blowtorch hits dense urban buildup, it's a different critter altogether.

paleotn

(22,211 posts)
23. There's no forest floor to rake because....there's no fucking forest!!!
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 03:57 PM
Jan 2025

It's coastal sage scrub.

paleotn

(22,211 posts)
22. Forest management has nothing, I repeat NOTHING to do with these particular fires.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 03:52 PM
Jan 2025

This is all sage scrub and chaparral, NOT the forest he's thinking about. He's a fucking moron, an ass or both.

No Vested Interest

(5,297 posts)
38. Gerrymandering at work in Ohio. I live in Ohio.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 04:41 PM
Jan 2025

Too many R's in Congress and state government because of gerrymandered maps.
Not truly representative of voting population.

Solly Mack

(96,940 posts)
28. I'm sick of these people.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 04:14 PM
Jan 2025

Blowhards running their mouths without an ounce of concern for the harm they are causing with their lies and ignorance.

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
33. Because all voters in CA vote blue. ???
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 04:20 PM
Jan 2025


Is this really where we're at? If a state went for Harris or has a dem governor, then fuck everyone there?

Vinca

(53,986 posts)
37. The guy should blame himself since the federal government is in charge of much of the land there.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 04:37 PM
Jan 2025
 

Tarzanrock

(1,250 posts)
39. Hurricane season is coming around the bend ...
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 04:46 PM
Jan 2025

... and Republican voting Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida and South Carolina are all bulleyes in its path as anthropogenic climate change will be even worse in 2025. Fun times ahead for the government cutting Turd, Eloon Mu$k and the Republican Nazi cult who live in those backassward states. Those of us who live in California won't shed one tear for those motherfuckers!

Wiz Imp

(9,991 posts)
42. What does forestry management have to do with fires that took place in a totally urban setting?
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 04:59 PM
Jan 2025

in the most populous county in the country?

struggle4progress

(126,145 posts)
43. Putinist
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 05:19 PM
Jan 2025
Voted against The Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act of 2022, which allowed the lending/lease of American defense materiel to Ukraine.

Voted against the 2022 Ukraine Supplemental Appropriation

Voted in favor of Amendment 21 to H.R. 2670, the National Defense Authorization Act, which would have stricken $300 million of assistance for Ukraine.

Voted in favor of Amendment 22 to H.R. 2670, the National Defense Authorization Act, which would have prohibited all security assistance for Ukraine.

Voted in favor of Amendment 25 to H.R. 2670, the National Defense Authorization Act, which would have removed the extension of lend-lease authority to Ukraine.

Voted against H.R. 5692: Ukraine Security Assistance and Oversight Supplemental Appropriations Act of 2023.

Voted against H.R.2882: Further Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2024.

Voted against H.R. 8035: Ukraine Security Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2024


https://gopforukraine.com/legislator/warren-davidson/?rc_ver=1.05
 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
44. There is no management that will work here.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:05 PM
Jan 2025

Forestry management has, for most of the 20th century, been about suppressing fires at all costs. Which has been a problem in a lot of places. I think that's changed a bit, but there are also a lot of introduced species (like eucalyptus) that burn easily and often, which doesn't help.

But the thing about climate change is that it is unpredictable. So lots of rain/snow some years and very little the next. Also too many people in vulnerable areas, but that is basically everywhere. If it's not fire, it's earthquakes or hurricanes or tornadoes or whatever.

Maybe building codes can start by banning certain fire-prone materials and plants.

You couldn't pay me to live in California because of fire and earthquakes. I also will never live anywhere where hurricanes are likely. I live in Maryland and we still had tornadoes 2 years in a row that went directly over my house. Basically we are all vulnerable to something, especially places people WANT to live in. Othewise we could all move to Ohio.

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