Trump has to destroy Gov. Newsom.

[Irish_Dem]

Gavin Newsom is a rising Dem star and a potential rival to Trump and the GOP leaders and losers.

Trump is just getting started.

[irisblue]

1. Trump, the tech oligarchs, the gop & the right wing authoritarians will surely try

[Butterflylady]

52. He WILL be with "Jesus " by then.

[pandr32]

67. I thought he WAS Jesus!

I've heard it said.

[MadameButterfly]

84. He has to silence Newsome's voice

whether either of them run or not. Newsome is too articulate and can be effective calling Trump out. Plus, Trump is jealous of real talent because deep inside he knows he's incompetent himself (which is why he has to brag constantly and quiet his opponents)

[malaise]

2. Rival how.

Donvict is a lame fuck …I mean duck…no I mean fuck😀

[Irish_Dem]

7. ha ha

Trump intends to run again.
He has said many times that he thinks his first term should not be counted
because he was harassed.

And he told everyone votes no longer matter.

Who exactly will stop him if he runs again?

Besides he is working for Putin, the billionaires and the GOP.
He does what they want and they don't want a powerful, smart, popular Dem rising star to contend with.

[Clouds Passing]

8. Plus, remember we won't have to vote anymore.

[Irish_Dem]

12. Exactly.

[malaise]

13. He harassed Biden every fucking hour of the day and night

He sure has a criminal blabbermouth mouth.

[Irish_Dem]

18. Exactly, Trump harasses someone every time he opens his mouth.

But he is a baby and gets his feelings hurt at the drop of a hat.

Typical of narcissists. They dish it out all the time, trash talking everyone all the time.
But cannot stand a hint of criticism themselves.

[malaise]

19. THIS

and then threatening those calling him out

[bdamomma]

62. and his

bullying will at some time will be tampered down.

[malaise]

63. Never but the likes of Joe Scum will call for our civility

Eff them

[Rebl2]

72. F joe

scum and his wife too.

[brush]

15. If he tries to run again, it will divide the nation even more as it's against...

the Constitution. A tremendous conflict will arise.

IMO if won't happen. There are many other rethug governors, senators etc who have presidential ambitions and will attempt to block him.

This is all contingent of course on whether he successfully establishes a fascist dictatorship.

[Irish_Dem]

21. The Putinn/GOP/Billionaire goal is to DIVIDE THE NATION.

Create conflict, chaos, division.

Putin is using the old divide and conquer strategy.

This is 100% apparent.

NO ONE has tried to block Trump and been successful. NO ONE.

The US government folded like a cheap lawn chair.
Congress, the Courts, the DOJ.
The American people.

Trump will do what he wants.

[Artistree22]

29. Women.

The women he assaulted are the only ones who have told the fucking first felon "No!".
You are right. It's very disheartening how he has bullied our entire system. The right wanted him initially because of his "businessman" persona, yet it was all a fraud. His corporation was run like a low life mob boss with fraud, more fraud, blackmail and bribery but mostly blackmail.

[Irish_Dem]

32. The MAGAs love that Trump is a mob boss and will rain hell on all their enemies.

They think they will be totally immune.

Yes women are the only ones standing up to Trump.
The men have all folded.

Interesting isn't it?

[bdamomma]

66. Irish_Dem

I agree that this is Putin's number 1 goal to break the USA apart, but even a tyrant like Putin will get his comeuppance. The Oligarchs and Tech Bros will fight tooth and nail to see who can claw their way to the top.

Go at fellas, go at it. I have this weird feeling that his base, will be awfully sorry to see what they have voted for.

[homegirl]

41. Musk and Vance

will collaborate to time the impeachment of Trump to allow Vance to serve the last two years of FELONOTUS Trump's second term. Then the GOP dominated Congress will wind it up, Vance will be eligible to run for two additional terms.

[dalton99a]

16. +1. There will be a reelection campaign to collect money

[DENVERPOPS]

55. His role model and mentor was Hitler

Who said: The voting doesn't matter....what matters is WHO counts the Vote. That probably was definitely the case in the 2000, 2004, 2016, and 2024 election.........And will probably be the case moving forward with the amount of power and money the Republicans have accumulated, and the USSC thrown in on top of it all...........The USSC's interjection, in the 2000 election, despite the constitution not allowing it, will be marked as a turning point for their tyranny.......

[travelingthrulife]

56. Yep. John Roberts got his start with Bush v Gore

Earned him Chief Justice.

[rampartd]

61. the 6-3 decision will be similar to colorado vs trump (which is now precedent, by the way)

"congress must pass legislation to prevent a candidate from appearing on the ballot"

they would decide the same, i guess, if non american musk or underage barron trump runs in 2028

if trump is still alive in 2028 , and if HE decides an election is necessary, he will run.

trump's head in a jar of formaldehyde would win.

[Mountainguy]

65. As I've said before

If they want to say 3rd terms are ok again, then fine. We nominate Barack Obama.

[chicoescuela]

81. No one will stop him from running again unless the

Grim Reaper does us all a huge favor soon. Our friend the Reaper is the only thing standing in the way of a third term,

[True Blue American]

57. I share your sentiments.🫠👍😜

[Blue_Tires]

3. Trump has to destroy all of California

Take their electoral college votes off the books

[Irish_Dem]

9. Yes the fires benefit Trump, Putin and the GOP in quite a few ways.

Nice coincidence for them isn't it?

[malaise]

14. So neat

Hmmmmmmmm

[Irish_Dem]

17. My thoughts exactly.

And also a nice touch in the plan is that Newsom cannot fight back against Trump.
He desperately needs ongoing federal help so has to kiss the ring.

[lame54]

22. The luck of the Trump...

He and his goons couldn't be happier about this
Just as he's about to take control, the Mighty California- his biggest obstacle - is being compromised
There is no catastrophe they will not exploit

[Irish_Dem]

25. Putin/GOP/Billionaires keep hitting the jackpot, over and over.

They are thrilled every time.

[yellow dahlia]

28. Right - how convenient.

The ATF is investigating the origins of the fire(s). Do you think the investigation will continue after the 20th?

[Irish_Dem]

33. ha ha

Of course not.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

64. How DID those wildfires start?

Was it arson?

I wonder if we'll ever know.

[Turbineguy]

4. Trump already lost

with his junior high name calling.

[Irish_Dem]

10. The MAGAs love it.

The nastier Trump is, the more they adore him.

[Evolve Dammit]

43. His Magats love it

[bdamomma]

69. Everytime

that felon opens his pie hole he is making enemies. He will rattle several cages, and people/countries will react.

Bullies never win.

[sop]

5. And Newson has to destroy Trump.

It's shaping up to be quite the battle.

[kimbutgar]

6. Newsom is younger, smarter and has more energy

And he knows how to smack back the 🍊💩🤡 .

[Irish_Dem]

11. Newsom can't. He is in a bind.

He needs Trump desperately now for federal aid and assistance.

[sop]

20. Even Trump knows he cannot deny federal aid and assistance to California.

[lame54]

23. Does he?

[Irish_Dem]

24. ha ha. Who exactly will stop him?

GOP congress is already against aid to CA.

The courts. NO
The people. NO

If I had ten bucks for every time someone lectured me about what Trump can do and not do,
and then he turns around and does exactly that, I would be rich.

[sop]

30. He might believe he's just hurting Newsom and California Democrats, but there are a lot of Republicans

and big corporate interests in Californai who would suffer much more. Trump will huff and puff, make all kinds of noise and threaten Newsom, but he knows he can't deny aid and assistance to the people of California. Trump is an imbecile, he might listen to the wrong people at Mar-a-Lago and stupidly deny aid to California, but it would be the biggest mistake of his second term, even before it begins.

[Irish_Dem]

36. He will give aid if the GOP billionaires and Newsom pony up something Trump wants.

Trump is totally pay to play now.

Trump helping CA most certainly will not be seen as a mistake by the GOP and MAGAs.
GOP congress is already saying they don't want to give CA any aid.

And the MAGAs will love hurting liberals.

In fact it will hurt Trump if he helps CA.

[sop]

58. I understand your point. Trump is insane, and a Republican Congress may go along with whatever he does.

However, I believe it would be a politically untenable and unprecedented position for a U.S. president to deny federal aid to one particular state after a devastating natural disaster solely for partisan reasons. And if it looks like Trump is trying to extort Newsom, denying Californians much-needed federal aid while they suffer, holding back tax dollars paid by Californians themselves, because of some personal pique, he would pay a very high price for doing so.

[bdamomma]

71. I agree

nt

[Evolve Dammit]

48. Faux News hosts are just making shit up as usual.

Sadly, it works

[homegirl]

45. If he does

California can withhold forwarding federal tax revenues collected in California
and apply those funds to reconstruction!

[WarGamer]

26. Newsom is my Gov... I support his presence in the 28 Primary. He won't win.

And he's not a good National candidate.

The "California thing" is toxic in the South and rust belt.

The next DEM nominee will look more like Josh Shapiro...

[Irish_Dem]

27. Interesting.

But Trump doesn't care. He will destroy any PERCEIVED enemy.

Do people like Shapiro?

[WarGamer]

31. Trump will be gone, politically by 2028.

My prediction is...

After the big 250th 4th of July Bash and 26 Mid-Term Elections, I think Trump will resign... some time in 27.

He wants to give Vance a leg up for 28.

One has to understand Trump.

He's all about winning and revenge on those who opposed/mocked him.

He will bow out at high tide... He's going to appoint 2 more SCOTUS Justices in the next 2 years...

Thomas and Alito will retire.

I predict Kacsmaryk and Cannon will be installed.

He will be seen as one of the most consequential POTUS in US History... (consequential isn't always a positive attribute, Hitler was consequential) having replaced 5 members of the SCOTUS.

[Irish_Dem]

34. Trump does not give a rat's ass about Vance.

He probably hates the guy at this point.

Yes you have to understand Trump.

He is a narcissistic sociopath.

He will hang on to power as long as possible.
He loves the adoration and power.
Getting revenge and hurting people.

And most important, stealing as much money and classified documents as possible.

I think he will hang on as long as he can.
The only way he leaves is in a pine box or he is paid handsomely to leave.

[WarGamer]

35. That's his legacy. He's not doing it for Vance... it's for himself.

He already HAS the power and money...

He wants to play golf and watch tv.

[Irish_Dem]

40. Trump wants to be the richest man in the world.

This comes from Michael Cohen who knows Trump very well.

Trump will always want more and more.
No amount of power or money is enough.
Nothing will fill the hole in his soul.

I don't think you understand.
Trump will watch TV and play golf when he is POTUS.

When he was in the WH before he rarely came to the Oval Office until the afternoon.
And worked for a couple of hours if you can call it work.

And Putin and the GOP will keep him in office for as long as possible.
Trump is a very useful idiot.

[Artistree22]

37. Worrying.

Any more court appointments is one of the most worrying things but you know this is one of the main things that his helpers are working on.
Those that are using him are not going to waste any time.
His supporters are blind to his ineptness. I find it Insane that people admire such a petty pathetic failure of a human being.
I expect him to make a deal with Vance for a pardon and his best option would be to resign. He doesn't care about doing the actual job, he never did. So, I think that you may be right. I prefer him stroking out before then. Please, please please universe????

[homegirl]

50. Very possible..

Trump will want to be front and center for the 250th Big Bash!

[allegorical oracle]

68. Sounds like the perfect way to make The Handmaid's Tale come to reality. nt

[WiVoter]

38. Is There Any Information On Exactly How The Fires Started?

Interesting timing.

[Hekate]

44. There's an article you should read. Bottom line: climate change& high winds, up to100 mph

https://archive.md/jAZNk

Originally posted by our own canetoad, and very informative.

Here’s another one

https://localnewspasadena.com/2025/how-two-words-from-a-24-year-old-pasadena-climate-specialist-saved-hundreds-of-lives/

[Irish_Dem]

46. Exactly.

Something that so benefits Trump and the GOP.

And Newsom can't fight back, he needs federal help.
Cannot piss off Trump or GOP congress.

[Lulu KC]

39. So is Newsom

Grace and competence under pressure are admirable leadership qualities. Until this event I always thought he was unappealing because California feels like a separate subculture in a lot of ways inside "the public's mind," as my own mind perceives it. But it feels a lot different now.

Of course, I still don't grasp what "they" think about anything, since thinking doesn't seem to be a critical part of the package. I only know what comes out of mouths. It's going to be another disorienting four years, which seem to have started awfully fast after the election. Sob.

[Irish_Dem]

47. Many Americans do not value good leadership.

Or leaders with intelligence and a moral core.

[Lulu KC]

51. Clearly n/t

[Six117]

42. Turnip can only do damage where people are weak minded enough to believe anything

that creature has to say - and then it's a choice.to believe a well known -documented- liar.

Republicans, conservatives, the right, evangelicals -whatever the stripe, have no credibility whatsoever.

[Irish_Dem]

49. NO. Trump can and will damage good, smart, thinking people.

No one is safe from him.

[Blue Full Moon]

53. That's it exactly.

Wouldn't surprise me if the fire wasn't set.

[William769]

54. The economy alone of California scares he shit out them.

[Irish_Dem]

76. Trump and the GOP equate money with power.

So a rich powerful blue state and governor is something to be despised and taken down.

[Wounded Bear]

59. Sad to say, but a white male Dem probably would have waxed trump...

America sucks some times.

[Irish_Dem]

75. If Putin and Trump cheated to win, maybe not.

No matter who ran against Trump, they would have lost against the two psychopaths, Putin and Trump.

But yes your point is well taken. In hindsight given the lack of character on the part of the American people,
a white male would have been better.

But we were stuck with some extenuating circumstances not in our favor.
And had to go with the hand we were dealt.
And I truly thought Americans were ready for Kamala.

[delisen]

80. Maybe a different group of Dems would have not voted.

[oldmanlynn]

60. Lets not let that happen !!!

[Irish_Dem]

74. There is no way we can stop Trump.

But yes we can refuse to believe Trump's crap.

[Iggo]

70. Yeah, but we don't have to help him do it.

I swear…this place sometimes.

[Irish_Dem]

73. I am helping Trump? You have to be kidding.

I assure you nothing I can think of is news to Trump.
He has already thought about it long before I did.

And I could never outguess a psychopath.

[Iggo]

82. Ugh! Again?

Jesus fucking Christ.

I wasn’t talking about you. In fact I said “we.” So, with that in mind, do you really think I’m accusing both you and myself of helping Trump? Does that sound right to you? Of course it doesn’t.

Here’s the thing. I’ve seen two-too-many concern threads about Newsom this week that read more like GOP marching orders, and I’m sick of it. So when I say “we” don’t have to help him, I mean we Dems don’t have to help him by spreading MAGA bullshit.

I wasn’t talking about you.

[Initech]

78. Oh the war on who will get relief funds is just getting started.

That fucker will have to pay at some point, but not before Fox News keeps moving back the goal posts on bullshit like DEI.

[Irish_Dem]

79. I don't know if Trump will pay.

Did he do anything to help Americans with Covid?
He and Jared sold our medical equipment and covid tests to foreign companies.

Trump will pay only if Newsom gives him something.

[PennRalphie]

83. Governor Newsom is a very intelligent person

He’s also a very talented politician. I believe he will have Southern CA rebuilt in record time. That will certainly catapult him to the White House. He’ll be able to easily defeat whoever they decide to run.

I also really believe his results in CA will also help the areas still hurting from their own disasters. Lahaina. Western NC. East Palestine. He’ll have a good chance of winning 50 states doing that.

What trump says or does will be irrelevant. Newsom will show he’s a real leader.