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erronis

(24,509 posts)
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 10:42 AM Jan 2025

Suicide by Rental Truck: America Gets Another Violent Wake-Up Call From Vets in Distress

https://prospect.org/health/2025-01-13-suicide-by-rental-truck-violent-veterans-ptsd/

A good analysis of how our war-making machinery can turn soldiers into time bombs.

Twenty years of war has created tens of thousands of broken men and women.

Recent headline-making events in two of America’s most famous party-hardy cities sent us back to our well-thumbed copy of Touching the Dragon, a 2018 memoir by James Hatch.

Never heard of Hatch? Well, maybe that’s because he spent much of his military career as a Navy SEAL “warfighter” always “close to the enemy” in Bosnia, Africa, Iraq, and Afghanistan, but never seeking headlines. A survivor of 150 combat missions, Hatch returned home in bad mental and physical shape; in fact, his crippling wounds of war ended his career. Then, adding insult to injury, he was “forced to … reintegrate into a society that I had spent two decades defending, but in which I didn’t feel I had a place.”

In his insightful and prophetic book, Hatch warned that his generational cohort of “special operators,” who experienced a similar “volume of fighting,” were now facing “a serious volume of aftermath. Marriages falling apart. Alcoholism. Guys getting kicked out of their houses. Guys drowning in opioids. The real recoil hasn’t even hit yet.”

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The final missions of two previously unknown Army sergeants—37-year-old Matthew Livelsberger and 42-year-old Shamsud-Din Jabbar—left millions of other Americans scratching their heads. Why would two much-saluted young men—who served their country so honorably at home and abroad, for a combined total of 33 years—both rent trucks in two different locations, within the same week? And then turn them into instruments of mass and/or self-destruction?
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Suicide by Rental Truck: America Gets Another Violent Wake-Up Call From Vets in Distress (Original Post) erronis Jan 2025 OP
Follow the link Ferryboat Jan 2025 #1
We are a nation that has many bad policies that are making people feel isolated. Baitball Blogger Jan 2025 #2
One supported ISIS and the other supported Trump JI7 Jan 2025 #3
I read somewhere recently that males in high stress roles end up with depleted travelingthrulife Jan 2025 #4

Ferryboat

(1,268 posts)
1. Follow the link
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 11:13 AM
Jan 2025

Sobering realizations that we turn OUR service members into very skilled killers.
Then deny any real support for mental health.
Refusal to follow up on studies that suggest a link between anti social behavior, suicidal threats, domestic violence and attraction to anti government militias.

No surprise that military service is a key indicator of a domestic terrorist.
Our government fails them.
We fail to support them.


Baitball Blogger

(52,713 posts)
2. We are a nation that has many bad policies that are making people feel isolated.
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 11:15 AM
Jan 2025

And in this present political climate, it's going to get worse.

JI7

(93,892 posts)
3. One supported ISIS and the other supported Trump
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 11:20 AM
Jan 2025

I understand we need to do better with helping people with mental health issues but in these cases I think it was more about their views/ideology .

travelingthrulife

(5,557 posts)
4. I read somewhere recently that males in high stress roles end up with depleted
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 11:46 AM
Jan 2025

testosterone levels. Might have been here.
Does anyone know if this is true? It could help to explain some of these PTSD symptoms. Could it be as easy as testosterone replacement for some of these men.

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