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Whovian

(2,866 posts)
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:32 PM Dec 2012

Mom had a 50 caliber Henry? (per CNN)

That's not a typical weapon someone looking for defense would buy. That's the type a kid might buy after watching a movie.

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Mom had a 50 caliber Henry? (per CNN) (Original Post) Whovian Dec 2012 OP
They have been saying sandyshoes17 Dec 2012 #1
That's an antique collector gun. JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #2
Yeah, the caliber stops meaning quite as much once you're out of the twentieth century Posteritatis Dec 2012 #9
That's a very expensive rifle that would be bought by a serious collector or target shooter slackmaster Dec 2012 #3
Wondering if it was a reproduction ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #11
She was receiving $250,000 a year in alimony alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #15
A Henry is an Old West era lever-action rifle. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #4
I have a Martini-Henry slackmaster Dec 2012 #5
Meh, looks just like an AK-47 to me! Posteritatis Dec 2012 #6
Here's a handy chart for ID'ing guns: Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #8
The car always cracks me up. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #10
Ha! First laugh I've had in a couple of days! Thanks! nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #16
Hahahaha JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #24
Or a collector nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #7
She needed it to compensate for the size of her penis. Being a teacher, she knew that. Edweird Dec 2012 #12
She wasn't a teacher. Squinch Dec 2012 #27
Henry rifles were made in New Haven, CT. FarCenter Dec 2012 #13
You just can't handle the fact that a female teacher owned and enjoyed shooting guns Edweird Dec 2012 #14
Yikes!!!!!!!!!! former-republican Dec 2012 #17
Not that likely with a mid-nineteenth-century rifle. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #19
Stop using logic former-republican Dec 2012 #20
D'oh. Sorry. Posteritatis Dec 2012 #22
There were no helicopters in the civil war nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #21
a riffle is a rocky shoal or sandbar lying just below the surface of a waterway. are you talking dionysus Dec 2012 #30
oh my DevonRex Dec 2012 #31
the rebels used to lure the union soldiers down to the killing riffles. while their horses dionysus Dec 2012 #32
I control the universe DevonRex Dec 2012 #34
Apparently the mom also took her kids to the range malaise Dec 2012 #18
If you have guns at home and children, old enough, like nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #23
Collected guns and taught her sons how to kill... you really do reap what you sow. nt Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #25
Sad but true.n/t godai Dec 2012 #26
I'm pretty sure the original Henry rifles were not produced in .50 caliber tularetom Dec 2012 #28
What if he killed her to get to her weapons? malaise Dec 2012 #29
it would seem that way, since he first tried to purchase one. bettyellen Dec 2012 #33

sandyshoes17

(657 posts)
1. They have been saying
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:36 PM
Dec 2012

she was an avid gun collector. She went to ranges and taught her sons to shoot.

JohnnyRingo

(20,863 posts)
2. That's an antique collector gun.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:39 PM
Dec 2012

Don't let the fifty caliber fool you into thinking it's a modern killing machine.

Here's an old Henry Rifle owned by one of my favorite TV hostesses:

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
9. Yeah, the caliber stops meaning quite as much once you're out of the twentieth century
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:52 PM
Dec 2012

A Brown Bess was, what, .75 caliber or so?

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
3. That's a very expensive rifle that would be bought by a serious collector or target shooter
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:41 PM
Dec 2012

If it was an ORIGINAL Henry it would be worth a whole lot of money.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
4. A Henry is an Old West era lever-action rifle.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:47 PM
Dec 2012

They look like this:


To the best of my knowledge, neither the originals or modern replicas are chambered for any .50 caliber cartridges. The originals were chambered for .44 Henry rimfire, a rather weak round by modern standards. Most modern replicas are chambered for .44-40 Winchester or .45 Long Cole (pistol rounds).

It's kind of hard to know what most media outlets are actually talking about when they mention firearms. They tend to get technical things really wrong a lot.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
6. Meh, looks just like an AK-47 to me!
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:48 PM
Dec 2012

*ducks and runs, giggling while dodging thrown objects*

JohnnyRingo

(20,863 posts)
24. Hahahaha
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:26 PM
Dec 2012

Funny because it's true that media personalities in general know little about firearms, but that doesn't stop them from talking about them. It's all about the image they want to impress upon viewers.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. Or a collector
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:50 PM
Dec 2012

I would not mind a Henry for the wall. It is also fairly accurate, even today, for hunting. Hell, a Winchester, the next gun in the series, is a great hunting riffle.

She was a collector.

For the record, the only Henry I have ever seen have been reproductions that a friend of ours uses in civil war recreations.

 

Edweird

(8,570 posts)
12. She needed it to compensate for the size of her penis. Being a teacher, she knew that.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:56 PM
Dec 2012
 

Edweird

(8,570 posts)
14. You just can't handle the fact that a female teacher owned and enjoyed shooting guns
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:04 PM
Dec 2012

can you? Here's the real kicker: she's far from being the only one.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
21. There were no helicopters in the civil war
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:24 PM
Dec 2012

This is a civil war riffle. The 50 caliber is the caliber not the actual power. The Henry had good penetration for the age, it was the first lever action, why the Rebs used to joke, you could load it on Monday and shoot it all week but was a northern weapon used by mounted formations capable of rapid fire when compared to the muzzle loaders of the Confederacy.

The photo of Rachel using it is the actual gun. These days it make a fine hunting riffle.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
30. a riffle is a rocky shoal or sandbar lying just below the surface of a waterway. are you talking
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:49 PM
Dec 2012

about a rifle perchance?

sweet jesus if you want to be taken seriously about firearms spell "rifle" correctly, please...

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
31. oh my
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:58 PM
Dec 2012

I thought ripple at first glance. Kept trying to figure out what a civil war ripple was. Ice cream? A drink? The ripples of violence still rippling? Lo and behold it was a rifle all along.

Hey I'm on my nexus 7! So cool.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
32. the rebels used to lure the union soldiers down to the killing riffles. while their horses
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 07:05 PM
Dec 2012

were trapped in the deadly riffle, they were cut to ribbons with cannon fire.

does the nexus have an app for the cruise missile console?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
23. If you have guns at home and children, old enough, like
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:28 PM
Dec 2012

Eight or above, it's a good idea to take them to the range and teach them gun safety and what to do around them...Adam was a broken young man, but I will not fault mom for familiarizing them with guns.

That in fact, is a recommendation from even my local PD, to have gun locks, but teach gun familiarization and safety to mature children. It takes, most of the time, the aura of mystery away and prevents accidents. Tom was a cop, if we had kids, of eight to ten, we'd be going to the range regularly and they would become very familiar with those guns.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
28. I'm pretty sure the original Henry rifles were not produced in .50 caliber
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:45 PM
Dec 2012

I have two antique .50 caliber rifles but they are muzzle loaders and not cartridge guns. Consequently they would be next to worthless as a home defense firearm.

As far as I know, the original Henry's were rimfire .44 caliber.

They were superseded by the 1866 Winchester (known as Yellowboy because of its brass frame). The Henry's front loading magazine proved difficult to use under combat conditions so it did not see wide use during the Civil War. Nevertheless it was the model for a long line of Winchester and Marlin lever guns including the famous Winchester 94, which only stopped production a few years ago.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
33. it would seem that way, since he first tried to purchase one.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 07:49 PM
Dec 2012

maybe they were all locked up away except for one she left handy.

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