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Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 06:30 PM Jan 2025

This one move could save MSNBC

Bring back Keith Olbermann. Get rid of Ari Melber. Move Chris and Joy up an hour each. Put Keith in at the 8:00 PM slot. Do that and the audience will come back.

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This one move could save MSNBC (Original Post) Yavin4 Jan 2025 OP
and let him fire Joe & Mika on live "pay per view?" LOL hlthe2b Jan 2025 #1
lol I would definitely watch that BannonsLiver Jan 2025 #3
YES!!!!! SheltieLover Jan 2025 #9
Keith has talked negatively about Rachel and Lawrence on his podcast oregonjen Jan 2025 #2
Keith behaved terribly when Al Gore hired him at Current GoreWon2000 Jan 2025 #6
Could not agree more... berksdem Jan 2025 #39
Rachel will leave if KO returns. Sneederbunk Jan 2025 #8
MSNBC is going to be sold and probably morph into another type of network. Jacson6 Jan 2025 #4
All the the satellite services I have been on MSNBC was not on regular tier with Fox and CNN. Had to pay extra LiberalArkie Jan 2025 #18
Olbermann is said to be a prima donna who's very hard to work with. Ocelot II Jan 2025 #5
I don't think that would come as a surprise to any who watched him (or listen to his podcasts)... hlthe2b Jan 2025 #7
He seems to have a complicated relationship with Rachel Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #22
Didn't he also once have a relationship with the abominable Katy Tur... brush Jan 2025 #26
Yes. They apparently dated/lived together for like 3 years Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #36
No it wouldn't. milestogo Jan 2025 #10
Olbermann claimed about a year ago gab13by13 Jan 2025 #11
It was said multiple times across multiple podcast episodes. Intractable Jan 2025 #13
They are not going to do anything that we would want them to. Intractable Jan 2025 #12
Andrea Mitchell is leaving if I'm not mistaken. Greybnk48 Jan 2025 #15
According to Google ... Intractable Jan 2025 #17
Maybe she'll go to the White House and schmooze with her own kind. milestogo Jan 2025 #19
Presumably, she'd still be on MSNBC. Intractable Jan 2025 #20
Hopefully there's a panda giving birth somewhere JoseBalow Jan 2025 #43
Andrea Mitchell is retiring from her show this year. n/t totodeinhere Jan 2025 #23
According to Google ... Intractable Jan 2025 #24
She started out on NBC mainstream news, and I think that's where she'll have a continuing role. eppur_se_muova Jan 2025 #29
Just curious SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2025 #14
Um... Olberman? No! lamp_shade Jan 2025 #16
Speaking only for myself... Different Drummer Jan 2025 #21
Legacy media VBNMW Jan 2025 #25
I doubt he'd go for it FullySupportDems Jan 2025 #27
Ari's ratings are good so they likely will keep him. Nt spooky3 Jan 2025 #28
That's five moves. mahina Jan 2025 #30
let it die. Just a big sham. Joe and Mika and how long Andrea and now Tur in the day and ZonkerHarris Jan 2025 #31
Not happening ... they don't need viewers when they stand to gain during Trump's reign. live love laugh Jan 2025 #32
Uh - no Sundance1220 Jan 2025 #33
I really like Ari. He doesn't let people off the hook in interviews. Politicub Jan 2025 #34
It seems highly unlikely this would happen. Even if it were to unfold, the outcomes you anticipate are also unlikely. * Oopsie Daisy Jan 2025 #35
Save MSNBC as a repository for EEOC complaints, sure Seeking Serenity Jan 2025 #37
No, he's not coming back and he wouldn't save MSNBC. themaguffin Jan 2025 #38
Ed Schultz has a better chance of being on before Olbermann madinmaryland Jan 2025 #40
That would certainly NOT bring me back. beaglelover Jan 2025 #41
A day late and a dollar short ThePartyThatListens Jan 2025 #42

oregonjen

(3,647 posts)
2. Keith has talked negatively about Rachel and Lawrence on his podcast
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 06:37 PM
Jan 2025

Not sure how well his hiring would go over with them. I adore Keith, but I don’t see it happening.

 

GoreWon2000

(1,461 posts)
6. Keith behaved terribly when Al Gore hired him at Current
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 06:40 PM
Jan 2025

Sorry but Keith has a very inflated, out of control ego much like what will be in the White House on Monday afternoon..

Jacson6

(2,122 posts)
4. MSNBC is going to be sold and probably morph into another type of network.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 06:39 PM
Jan 2025

When they are sold by Comcast then all of the cable & streaming services are not going to pay for it. The NBC TV networks are part of a package deal, so the cable or streaming provider pays one price for all of the networks. The same thing will happen to CNBC.

LiberalArkie

(19,893 posts)
18. All the the satellite services I have been on MSNBC was not on regular tier with Fox and CNN. Had to pay extra
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 07:52 PM
Jan 2025

Ocelot II

(131,028 posts)
5. Olbermann is said to be a prima donna who's very hard to work with.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 06:40 PM
Jan 2025

I wouldn't expect him to return. He burned a lot of bridges.

hlthe2b

(114,388 posts)
7. I don't think that would come as a surprise to any who watched him (or listen to his podcasts)...
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 06:43 PM
Jan 2025

I do think he has a lot of respect for Rachel, though. Most of his other colleagues? Not so much...

Wiz Imp

(10,272 posts)
22. He seems to have a complicated relationship with Rachel
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 08:03 PM
Jan 2025

I think you are correct that he has (or had) respect for her, but I also think he credits himself with her success. He also recently said: “She just re-signed for $25 million. If you think she’d do anything for principle, I’ll light a candle for you.” I honestly think he's jealous of her success with MSNBC.

I like Keith, but his narcissism, while not quite on the level of Trump, is still super high.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
26. Didn't he also once have a relationship with the abominable Katy Tur...
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:26 AM
Jan 2025

and she used him to help her career then ditched him?

Wiz Imp

(10,272 posts)
36. Yes. They apparently dated/lived together for like 3 years
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:05 AM
Jan 2025

He also remained friends with her for some time after that. But at some point she did some things that pissed him off enough to make him start trashing her for various misdeeds. When he has talked about her, it's always felt like he was exaggerating some things, and like with Maddow, I think he credits himself for her success in her career. However, I have to believe it is mostly true and accurate or else he would be open to a defamation suit from her.

gab13by13

(32,590 posts)
11. Olbermann claimed about a year ago
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 07:30 PM
Jan 2025

That msnbc was going to bring him back but Rachel vetoed it. I believe he said it on a pod cast.

Intractable

(2,338 posts)
13. It was said multiple times across multiple podcast episodes.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 07:38 PM
Jan 2025

KO is tainted goods. They will never have him back.

Intractable

(2,338 posts)
12. They are not going to do anything that we would want them to.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 07:36 PM
Jan 2025

Get rid of Andrea Mitchel? Never.

Get rid of Joe Scar? Never.

They could lose everything before 4:00PM and I'd be fine with it.

Greybnk48

(10,743 posts)
15. Andrea Mitchell is leaving if I'm not mistaken.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 07:48 PM
Jan 2025

She announced that she was going back to foreign correspondence or something like that back in November or early December.

Intractable

(2,338 posts)
17. According to Google ...
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 07:51 PM
Jan 2025
Why is Andrea Mitchell leaving?
NEW YORK (AP) — Veteran NBC News reporter Andrea Mitchell said Tuesday that she plans to end her weekday MSNBC show after the inauguration of a new president and switch back to a reporting role.Oct 29, 2024


Sounds like she'll still be around.

Intractable

(2,338 posts)
24. According to Google ...
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 08:14 PM
Jan 2025

Why is Andrea Mitchell leaving?
NEW YORK (AP) — Veteran NBC News reporter Andrea Mitchell said Tuesday that she plans to end her weekday MSNBC show after the inauguration of a new president and switch back to a reporting role.Oct 29, 2024

Sounds like she'll still be around -- on MSNBC.

eppur_se_muova

(42,289 posts)
29. She started out on NBC mainstream news, and I think that's where she'll have a continuing role.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:47 AM
Jan 2025

She was never really MSNBC people, so I think that's a good decision.

SocialDemocrat61

(7,900 posts)
14. Just curious
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 07:44 PM
Jan 2025

How many years of experience do you have managing a news gathering organization or programming a Television network? Also, what data is the conclusion based on? Audience research done by Nielsen or other experienced measurement firm? Or maybe focused groups conducted in various cities with former MSNBC viewers?

Different Drummer

(9,083 posts)
21. Speaking only for myself...
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 08:01 PM
Jan 2025

I stopped watching news on November 6, 2024 because I don't want to hear G&G's* voice or see his face. As much as I'd like to have Keith back, it wouldn't make enough of a difference to me that I would start watching the news again.

*G&G is my new nickname for POTUS Elect. It stands for "Gas & Groceries", the respective current prices of which Michael Cohen has said were decisive in the outcome of the 2024 election.

 

VBNMW

(67 posts)
25. Legacy media
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:20 AM
Jan 2025

Should rot on the vine. Majority of people don’t trust it and their opinions and hot takes are never right. There’s never a war or conflict that they can’t get behind.

We need an actual fourth estate that’s not owned by billionaires who profit from class warfare. How is ppl still care about what’s on the boob tube?

FullySupportDems

(477 posts)
27. I doubt he'd go for it
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:38 AM
Jan 2025

He's said frequently on his YouTube channel he doesn't want to do more than a couple shows a week. Mondays and Thursdays, and Monday's shows are going to be live.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
31. let it die. Just a big sham. Joe and Mika and how long Andrea and now Tur in the day and
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 04:11 AM
Jan 2025

a few hours for the "liberal" hosts at night.
MSNBC has the best of both worlds and its heads and owners are not our friends.

 

Sundance1220

(285 posts)
33. Uh - no
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 09:54 AM
Jan 2025

I still remember his rant about Hillary Clinton and him trashing her up one side and down the other. Which puts him in the same category as those Muslims who voted for donnie to punish the Democrats. Haven't watched/listened to him since and wont ever again.

Politicub

(12,335 posts)
34. I really like Ari. He doesn't let people off the hook in interviews.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:00 AM
Jan 2025

I turned off broadcast news like many others after the election. Before that, MSNBC was my go-to for broadcast news.

I’m ready to tune back in if they play an antagonistic role to the oligarchy. Ari is ideal for that moment. That is unless he changed in post election coverage. I haven’t watched more than 15 minutes of any news channel since then.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
35. It seems highly unlikely this would happen. Even if it were to unfold, the outcomes you anticipate are also unlikely. *
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:04 AM
Jan 2025

While Olbermann enjoyed a successful show during his era, both he and the landscape of media have evolved significantly. I am skeptical that he could attract the same level of viewership as before. Furthermore, even in the event of a resurgence in viewership, the numbers he previously garnered might not suffice to revitalize the network.

The challenges facing MSNBC are complex, and there is no singular quick-fix solution that can ensure its recovery.

madinmaryland

(65,764 posts)
40. Ed Schultz has a better chance of being on before Olbermann
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 05:43 PM
Jan 2025

Yes. Schultz died years ago. Olbermann would never go back and msnbc would never offer him a position to come back.

 
42. A day late and a dollar short
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 05:50 PM
Jan 2025

They're too far gone.

And it's the ownership that's the problem here, like CNN, they're likely MAGATs themselves.

Let it die a natural death.

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