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PatrickforB

(15,383 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 10:46 PM Jan 2025

Today I had over 100 emails.

From Democrats and Democratic leaning organizations. Oh, do this survey. Do that survey. And PLEASE give us money.

After Trump won the election, Earl spoke of allowing more people on here to talk about what they think the Democrats need to do to recover from this nightmare that is going to be the Trump clown car. The wreckers.

Well I have one. I get DELUGED each day with emails and texts. Oh, we really, really need you to fill out this survey.

Whoops! It's multiple choice and often does not include issues I most care about (healthcare, Social Security, Medicare), and gives me NO opportunity to type any of my own answers in.

Then, they ALWAYS ask for money.

So here's my beef: I'm tired of getting these emails talking about good policy, and soliciting donations from me so they will do the right thing. Why should I have to pay for politicians to do what is right?

This country has gotten so corrupt it isn't even funny. God knows how many billions were spent on the 2024 election, and what do we get? People 'breaking for Trump' because he is perceived as a change candidate and butter was too high. I donated several hundred dollars to various candidates and we got pasted.

And the media? Their fiduciary responsibility is NOT to tell the truth in reporting - nope. Their only responsibility is to generate PROFITS for shareholders. That is fucked up too. Imagine how much PROFIT Comcast and Disney shareholders made off this election. It was a real hog trough for them, let me tell you! A billion dollars just for Harris.

And please don't have the temerity to point out some of that money went to get word out on social media. That didn't work either.

It's time for the Democrats to STOP BEING INSTITUTIONALISTS, take off the gloves and start playing hardball. Get in there and kick these fuckers right between the legs. When Pelosi chose Gerry Connoly, a 74 year old recovering from esophageal cancer instead of AOC for Ways and Means that really pissed me off. I don't give a shit if 'it isn't her turn.' You know what, if we keep taking turns and putting up senior people like we have, we will keep losing elections and America will keep getting screwed.

If we don't start letting these young people like AOC, Crockett and the rest come to the forefront, we will keep losing elections because this demoralizes the base. That is, if we ever are allowed to have any more elections. So guess what? I will donate to AOC and Crockett and other progressives. But people like that guy in PA and both Senators in AZ who are going for that Laken Riley act that will illegally throw immigrants in jail without anything like due process. What the fuck is that??? I'm not giving them a dime for that shit.

They can forget ever getting any money from me ever again.

I'm sorry, but we really need to pull out the stops and GET TOUGH with these jerks. And I'm not going to allow myself to be soaked for donations any more with spurious surveys designed to draw me in so I can give people money. Next time we are in power, if such a thing actually happens, we had better be running better candidates.

Biden did his speech tonight and I couldn't watch. He should never have run in 2024 and should have opened it up for a primary. But no, we had to be cautious, and look what that has gotten us. I'm fucking 66 years old, have $11K in fucking HEALTHCARE DEBT and get nickel and dimed to death at the grocery store. I should be doing better than I ever have financially - yeah I'm still working because I don't know what these billionaire fucks plan with Social Security but I know they want a big juicy tax cut.

Its ironic, isn't it, how the richest guy in the world is telling US we need to TIGHTEN OUR BELTS because WE have been living beyond our means when he's going to pocket billions more because of his fucking tax cut.

I'm feeling pretty hostile, and I'm fucking done donating to middle of the road mediocre candidates. I want fucking Medicare for all Americans, and Social Security to be solvent. We could have done that with all the money that went down the Wall Street rathole in election season. God I'm fucking mad.

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Today I had over 100 emails. (Original Post) PatrickforB Jan 2025 OP
That would really piss me off too BlueSpot Jan 2025 #1
His point was that establishment Dems are only interested in the mon Bobstandard Jan 2025 #6
And how many people down below BlueSpot Jan 2025 #10
Good effort. Thanks. nt Bobstandard Jan 2025 #28
I don't ever click unsub. I block them. SheltieLover Jan 2025 #18
That's about average for me. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2025 #2
the surveys are just a bait and switch cadoman Jan 2025 #3
Yeah. Once you give to a candidate (encouraged), the address goes out. Now is probably not the best time Silent Type Jan 2025 #4
You can unsubscribe H2O Man Jan 2025 #5
They need funds to survive LeftInTX Jan 2025 #7
I just started $5/month to AOC. LuvLoogie Jan 2025 #8
I used to donate online but I stopped because of all the emails requesting more LogDog75 Jan 2025 #9
Democrats' fundraising tactics aren't just annoying. They're backfiring. progressoid Jan 2025 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author wnylib Jan 2025 #21
A 74 year old? usonian Jan 2025 #12
The survival rate for esophogeal cancer is low. wnylib Jan 2025 #22
Sorry to hear that. usonian Jan 2025 #24
Thanks for saving me the trouble of having to craft THIS! PatrickforB I'm stealing/borrowing w/ attribution your words usaf-vet Jan 2025 #13
I've unsubscribed. It's a waste of time. BadgerMom Jan 2025 #14
Yes. I will donate to genuine candidates that actually support stuff I want on the ground. PatrickforB Jan 2025 #25
The doomsday fundraisers were a huge turn off ThoughtCriminal Jan 2025 #15
I started to unsubscribe when I take the time to open them at all. nt Gore1FL Jan 2025 #16
I'm getting very few emails since unsubscribing to them all a couple of months ago... Hekate Jan 2025 #17
I've been annoyed by it too, but I also realize B.See Jan 2025 #19
We have a detached 2-car garage. AverageOldGuy Jan 2025 #20
I didn't support any candidates with money LittleGirl Jan 2025 #23
Unsubscribe. Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #26
I am willing to bet the farm Littlered Jan 2025 #27

BlueSpot

(1,269 posts)
1. That would really piss me off too
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 10:52 PM
Jan 2025

What I would do is go through them one by one and hit the unsubscribe link at the bottom. As you hit the link, decide on whatever sort of torture that would inflict as payback - you know, a paper cut, a pin prick or escalate up as you feel fit.

The result is that you should get off the lists and kinda-sorta enjoy the journey.

Bobstandard

(2,212 posts)
6. His point was that establishment Dems are only interested in the mon
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:35 PM
Jan 2025

These supposedly Democratic fund raisers that couch their appeals behind polls and asks for opinions are just jackals feast on the carcass of the people who raised nearly a billion dollars for Kamala and Democratic candidates.

BlueSpot

(1,269 posts)
10. And how many people down below
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:48 PM
Jan 2025

Also suggested the unsubscribe?

I just offered a way to feel better about spending the time to do it.

 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
3. the surveys are just a bait and switch
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:03 PM
Jan 2025

Fundraising technique. They are not read.

You are right to be mad. We are not being heard.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
4. Yeah. Once you give to a candidate (encouraged), the address goes out. Now is probably not the best time
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:03 PM
Jan 2025

to be asking for money. After a few months of hearing trump and midterms approach, should be good.

LuvLoogie

(8,651 posts)
8. I just started $5/month to AOC.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:43 PM
Jan 2025

I might for Jasmine Crockett once I reduce my expenditures a bit.

Not to the national committees though. We should have wiped the floor with that corrupt, bigot, shit soul. Instead we gotta ride it out. I ain't paddlin' though. I'm just gonna grow some vegetables and eat a lot of rice and beans.

LogDog75

(1,175 posts)
9. I used to donate online but I stopped because of all the emails requesting more
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:47 PM
Jan 2025

Nothing discourages people from donating more than constantly being hit up for more donations. And it's not just for political candidates and causes. During the pandemic, I donated my stimulus money between a food bank, Meals-on-Wheels, and organization that delivers food to AIDS patients. I keep getting mailings from them asking for more money.

What I do now is I'll donate to political candidates in cash at a fundraising event but not enough at one time to require me to give my name and email address.

progressoid

(52,821 posts)
11. Democrats' fundraising tactics aren't just annoying. They're backfiring.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:56 PM
Jan 2025
Democrats’ fundraising tactics aren’t just annoying. They’re backfiring.

By Adam Bonica, professor of political science at Stanford University

We’ve all been there. You open your inbox to find it overflowing with political fundraising emails — bizarre subject lines, dire warnings and urgent pleas for your money. Then your phone dings. It’s another fundraising text. In 2024 alone, my inbox was bombarded with over 3,200 emails from Democratic campaigns, peaking at 48 in a single day. That doesn’t include what lands in spam or the stream of fundraising texts.

This relentless pursuit of cash isn’t just irritating — it also reveals a deeper issue within the Democratic Party. Fundraising has overshadowed genuine voter engagement, treating supporters as wallets rather than allies. As someone who studies money in politics, I know that fundraising is a reality of U.S. elections. But it’s clear we need a frank discussion about Democratic fundraising practices and their long-term consequences. Too often, Democrats’ current approach sacrifices loyalty for quick cash. It’s madness, and it needs to change.

....https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/democrats-fundraising-emails-texts-donations-rcna183963

Response to progressoid (Reply #11)

usonian

(24,166 posts)
12. A 74 year old?
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 12:06 AM
Jan 2025

Last edited Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:32 AM - Edit history (1)

And she said Joe was too old.

I'm scratching my head.

No offense intended.



And go figure.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
22. The survival rate for esophogeal cancer is low.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:25 AM
Jan 2025

My ex and his mother died from it. Ex did not even have surgery or chemo when he was diagnosed because because he knew the stats from his mother's case.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2912110/#:~:text=The%20outcome%20for%20patients%20with,of%2014%25%20(1).

usaf-vet

(7,775 posts)
13. Thanks for saving me the trouble of having to craft THIS! PatrickforB I'm stealing/borrowing w/ attribution your words
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 12:07 AM
Jan 2025
It's time for the Democrats to STOP BEING INSTITUTIONALISTS, take off the gloves and start playing hardball. Get in there and kick these fuckers right between the legs. When Pelosi chose Gerry Connoly, a 74 year old recovering from esophageal cancer instead of AOC for Ways and Means that really pissed me off. I don't give a shit if 'it isn't her turn.' You know what, if we keep taking turns and putting up senior people like we have, we will keep losing elections and America will keep getting screwed.

If we don't start letting these young people like AOC, Crockett and the rest come to the forefront, we will keep losing elections because this demoralizes the base. That is, if we ever are allowed to have any more elections. So guess what? I will donate to AOC and Crockett and other progressives. But people like that guy in PA and both Senators in AZ who are going for that Laken Riley act that will illegally throw immigrants in jail without anything like due process. What the fuck is that??? I'm not giving them a dime for that shit.

They can forget ever getting any money from me ever again.


The BOLD highlights are mine. Thanks again! PatrickforB

BadgerMom

(3,394 posts)
14. I've unsubscribed. It's a waste of time.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 12:14 AM
Jan 2025

They just inundate me from another email. It’s exactly like my friend, Scam—Scam Likely. I can block calls, but good ol’ Scam just contacts me using a different number.

Simply telling Dems like me to unsubscribe and that money is needed is a form of ignoring the message. I gave during the election although the emails then were annoying. The message is: Find another way. I am a reliable donor. I will give again. But I am allowed to tell the party that the methods they are using now are a turn-off. I am discouraged about the election. I am tired of the constant appeals. I don’t even read this trash, no less allow it to open my wallet. The Democratic Party needs to improve its messages and outreach. Stating this doesn’t make me a bad Democrat. It makes me engaged enough to recognize a problem in the hopes of seeing change for the better.

PatrickforB

(15,383 posts)
25. Yes. I will donate to genuine candidates that actually support stuff I want on the ground.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 09:58 AM
Jan 2025

But you're right - this is backfiring horribly because we gave ALL THAT MONEY and got nothing. Nothing but a clown car full of billionaire locusts who will strip the treasury clean and leave us hanging in the wind, and nazi-kluxers who want to set up a network of concentration camps.

Enough.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,709 posts)
15. The doomsday fundraisers were a huge turn off
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 12:27 AM
Jan 2025

I felt that the message was designed to enhance revenue, not win elections.

I don't know much about how many of these "non-profit" organizations that spammed the hell out of me last year operate, but they sure seemed to be more focused in raising money than actually putting forward a positive message about our candidates.

Yes, I gave to the Harris campaign and Democrats in my state. But not through any of the organizations that were sending me unsolicited requests.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
17. I'm getting very few emails since unsubscribing to them all a couple of months ago...
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 12:47 AM
Jan 2025

Later on I will definitely donate to some of the candidates in my state, and to my Congressman and Senators — but it will be at my leisure, and I will unsubscribe shortly after their thank you letter.

Meanwhile, may I suggest Direct Relief for victims of the California fires?
https://www.directrelief.org/

B.See

(8,054 posts)
19. I've been annoyed by it too, but I also realize
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:11 AM
Jan 2025

that MAGA candidates are being bankrolled by billionaires, corporations, and undisclosed deep pocket, dark money sources - domestic and foreign.

So what I've done was: donate when I chose to, unsubscribed from emails, stopped text messages, blocked numbers, and designated repeat offenders as spam.

And as another pointed out, takes only a minute to delete em all.

But not reason enough, I think, to bash the entire Democratic party for fundraisers.

AverageOldGuy

(3,579 posts)
20. We have a detached 2-car garage.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:14 AM
Jan 2025

There’s a shredder in the garage - nothing special, one of those you can buy at Office Max, etc.

Daily I walk down to the mailbox, pull out the mail, and go to the garage. On most days EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF MAIL goes into the shredder, including the letters from Nancy Pelosi.

And while this means nothing to anyone outside Virginia, we have ZERO to do with the Democratic Party of Virginia that does nothing but put out press releases. Every other Democrat in our county feels the same way.

LittleGirl

(8,977 posts)
23. I didn't support any candidates with money
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 01:26 AM
Jan 2025

this cycle. Too tight with the move and all. I unsubscribed from everything that came into my inbox and junk mail folder BEFORE THE ELECTION. Even things I never signed up for. I know they sold the mailing lists because of the old address on mine.

I'm not giving a dime to any politicians until they outlaw Citizen's United. Why should I give my very hard earned SS money to politicians that are being lobbied by billionaires? I can't compete so I'm keeping my money. I only have my vote at this point. I'll volunteer in other ways.

 

Littlered

(347 posts)
27. I am willing to bet the farm
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:18 AM
Jan 2025

It all started with an innocent donation through act blue. It’s taken me months to undo the damage they have done to my inbox. If you write them and call them out, they essentially lie about it. And since nearly every campaign I’ve donated to has farmed out their fundraising collections to them. It is nearly impossible to avoid this problem.

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