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The onslaught on Biden is insane. I have been reading hit piece after hit piece after hit piece. The world has gone mad, I'm sure.
I can't say how thankful I am to start my day with the LOL Salmon Enchanted because it's the only glimpse of tranquility I experience lately. Comfort food for my soul.
I congratulate Biden for his years of service. I can't imagine how soul crushing this last year has been for him. What is happening to him is beyond comprehension to me.
If I am in the minority so be it...... I'll be in Joe Biden's minority every day
milestogo
(23,084 posts)MichMan
(17,151 posts)Lady McBiden: Alexandra Pelosi Blasts the First Lady
The feud between the president and ex-speaker intensifies in the waning days of his presidency.
By Jonathan Martin
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)DANCE, MY LITTLE PUPPETS!!
FormerOstrich
(2,889 posts)It's reported on Politico. If she didn't say it I hope to hell she'd be screaming and yelling from the rooftops that she had been misquoted.
If it is dubious I'll delete the quote. It is just one in a sea of many hit pieces/quotes I've seen this weekend.
Response to FormerOstrich (Reply #6)
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wnylib
(26,014 posts)emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)As they were in when he announced for 2020. Also quite happy to repeat Biden is a Rapist lies back then as well.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,518 posts)Celerity
(54,408 posts)delisen
(7,366 posts)Shame on entitled Alexandria Pelosi. The Lady McBiden comment reminds me of Trumps nastiness.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)who are sucking up to UBER wealthy parents as they want the parent to look kindly upon them in their wills......
Celerity
(54,408 posts)I realise this board skews old, but come on
she is basically twice my age
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)of her parents....Maybe I should have said "off-spring" or "Child", who are at the age where the parents are near the end of their existence and updating their wills for the near future distribution of assets.....
Celerity
(54,408 posts)calimary
(90,021 posts)There arent that many people left in America who have something nice to say about Joe Biden????
FUCK THAT!!!
After the donalds first four years, JOE BIDEN stepped up and brought honor and dignity - AND honesty and integrity - back to the White House. Focusing on building from the bottom up and middle out.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2022-03-02/biden-build-from-bottom-up-middle-out-not-top-down-video
Probably should have fumigated the place, too.
W_HAMILTON
(10,333 posts)It means little when you are saying nice things in public while twisting the knife in their back in private...
vanessa_ca
(947 posts)On July 10 of last year, less than two weeks after the now-infamous debate, Pelosi slipped into the White House residence early in the morning. Initially speaking to Biden alone, Pelosi expressed her concerns about polls that showed his standing was plummeting and the president pushed back, insisting he could still win.
But the point, Pelosi allies say, is that her initial efforts to persuade Biden were done with dignity not a dagger.
There were no threats, one person familiar with the conversation told me. She just told him the truth he was losing in every poll, and people had lost confidence.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/01/19/lady-mcbiden-alexandra-pelosi-first-lady-00199164
FormerOstrich
(2,889 posts)I was upset when they begin piling on Biden at the time. It was ugly, IMO. I thought it wrong.
Then when Kamala came on stage the energy changed. Things felt positive. New energy. I said I must have been wrong...In retrospect maybe the energy felt better because I was comparing the cloud that had formed to sunshine.
In my simpletons view and simple math, I think Biden is correct. I think he would have won. Had Biden remained on the ticket....here is my equation:
# of people that voted for Harris that would have stayed at home or voted against Biden = 0
# of people that stayed at home or voted against Harris > 0
If I am right or wrong is of no consequence. Clearly those that insisted on Biden dropping out were wrong. We lost. We lost big in ways small and large. I admit when i am wrong. All I hear is blame Biden either way.
vanessa_ca
(947 posts)I don't think Biden would have won based on what I see with my generation's reaction, but we'll never know. I agree with you that we lost in big ways which is tragic.
LisaL
(47,423 posts)is that democrats forcing him out did not help.
We lost the presidency, senate and house.
johnnyfins
(3,768 posts)Only it wouldnt have been racism and misogyny. It would have been ageism.
EdmondDantes_
(1,797 posts)Your equation is biased by what you want to believe. If Harris couldn't separate herself from the Biden policies that were unpopular, how does Biden, especially given his physical decline?
Given where the polling was before Biden dropped out, he was on track to lose in a landslide. How does he turn that around? He was never good at the rah rah rally stuff. He wasn't willing to engage on inflation or immigration until very late in the game.
Wiz Imp
(9,996 posts)Sorry, but I can guarantee that there were many, probably millions of people that voted for Harris that would have stayed at home or voted against Biden. The real equation is this:
# of people that voted for Harris that would have stayed at home or voted against Biden >>> 0
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2024-09-04/exclusive-poll-shows-harris-ignites-enthusiasm-among-young-adults-in-critical-swing-states
Nobody knows if Biden would have won. Polling implies that Biden would have lost by a larger margin. What is known is that Harris attracted many, many votes of people who would have never voted for Biden.
IbogaProject
(5,913 posts)Not after the primary, the media hamstrung us into a no win situation last summer. Mr Turd had free media coverage and was held to almost no standards. The economy while better than under t45 is still very tough for a majority of the electorate.
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)Because it's easy, guilt-free and nobody wants to get put on Donnie and Elmer's revenge list...
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)is purely an act of poor or no leadership at the top..........IMHO...........
I would bet, that the majority of Dems can't even tell you the name of the head of the National Dem Party, but I would also bet that they ALL COULD name the leader of the Republican Party as being Mitch McConnell.......
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)But inter-party dissent and independence is working against us
jalan48
(14,914 posts)milestogo
(23,084 posts)She's not even in Congress.
Celerity
(54,408 posts)
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,710 posts)niyad
(132,440 posts)must be sufferung from the cold!
Celerity
(54,408 posts)seasons on HBO from June 3, 2018, to May 28, 2023. The series centers on the Roy family, the owners of global media and entertainment conglomerate Waystar RoyCo, and their fight for control of the company amidst uncertainty about the health of the family's patriarch.
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Succession won the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Drama Series and the Golden Globe Award for Best Television Series Drama in 2020, 2022, and 2023. Jeremy Strong and Kieran Culkin won both the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series and the Golden Globe Award for Best Actor Television Series Drama, Sarah Snook won the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drama Series and the Golden Globe Award for Best Actress Television Series Drama, while Macfadyen won the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series twice and the Golden Globe Award for Best Supporting Actor Series, Miniseries or Television Film. Brian Cox also won a Golden Globe Award for his performance in the series. The main cast also won the Screen Actors Guild Award for Outstanding Performance by an Ensemble in a Drama Series in 2022 and 2024. Armstrong has four wins for the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Writing for a Drama Series. The third season broke the record for the most Emmy acting nominations in a single year, with 14.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)The woman was that aristocratic, blue blooded, snob, entitled, Dem female house or senator.........left over from the victorian era and had probably never watched SNL or how the cast all clown around........that launched a destroy Senator Al Franken, one of the best ever Dem Senators. Due to him clowning around.......The whole nation of Dems was pissed, but she got her 15 minutes of fame, and Franken Quit.
I have to say, there is so much crapola, and people's names flying in our directions these days, that even if we were young it would be impossible to recall or remember anything........
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)MichMan
(17,151 posts)I can name example, after example. In politics, name recognition is often king
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)Iggo
(49,927 posts)emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)Do documentary filmmakers have lines of succession? Do politicians have lines of succession?
Can DU stick with facts, or do we have to jump on the disformation/misinformation bandwagon too?
madibella
(208 posts)And people wonder why Bidens approval is so low! Its a pile on!
No need to worry about the republicans attacking Biden, the dems are doing it for them! And then the press makes a 7 day story about it!
While Trump is literally degrading before our eyes, plus hes a convicted criminal and traitor.
Jesus.
LisaL
(47,423 posts)I mean, show some respect.
kelly1mm
(5,756 posts)After the first debate the establishment basically said it was President Biden's choice to make if he were staying in the race. He publicly said he was. The establishment then said we will give him time to make his choice. He then sent a 'dear collogues' letter again saying he was staying in the race. The establishment responded again, we will give him time to make the right choice. A few days later and elected Democrats were calling for him to drop out.
Now I think it was ALSO hubris on his part to even run for reelection but the way it played out was not a good look at all. My opinion of Congresswoman Pelosi will always be diminished because of this incident.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)Biden's lackluster performance during the debate had several causes.
He had been globe trotting the previous to the debate, trying to deal with REAL PRESIDENTIAL PROBLEMS, and was likely tired as anyone would be.
The biggest problem with his performance, was his preparation crew, not preparing him for Trump to use an infamous Debate Technique, which was well known, called GISH GALLOP. This nepharious technique unscrupulously used in debating has been known for decades. Trump was most known using this technique in past performances, but was coached to ratchet it up to a high level with Biden.......Biden's team should have prepared him for it, just in case it was utilized, recognize it, dismiss it, and the team should have prepped him for a counter offense.
If you are not knowledgeable about this technique, google/wiki it......
It falls under: "If you can't dazzle them with Brilliance, Baffle them with bullshit" That has has been the Republican Mantra ever since Ike. In the case of Trump during the debate, Trump was prepared with an overwhelming tsunami of bullshit the likes of which had never been seen/used before.
Being stunned by it, due to being exhausted from being stressed with world matters and Jet Fatigue, and no prep, he was vulnerable to this nasty debate technique used by his opponent.
keep_left
(3,210 posts)...what passes for "news" on the MAGA networks like ONAN...er...OANN, NewsMax, etc. In my area, OANN has been buying time on marginal low-power TV stations to carry a few hours of their programming each day. It's called "OAN Plus", and it's basically a multiple-hours-long infomercial for OANN which features all their most partisan shows (including the execrable Chanel Rion). OANN's programming has to be seen to be believed. The attacks on Biden are just relentless and often completely incorrect. I've heard nonstop accusations of various dementias and age-related ailments, none of which are backed up with even the slightest medical evidence. And that's just from tuning in OAN Plus for a few minutes a day (which is all I can stand). It's really disturbing--like an American version of North Korean state TV.
FormerOstrich
(2,889 posts)repeated in more day to day/casual comments/on and on.
There are those hit pieces but they seem to be spawning actual hits which seem suicidal if you ask me.
Abusive people always lash out at their "loved ones" when they are upset.
JoseBalow
(9,489 posts)adjective
Deserving of execration; hateful. Extremely inferior; very bad.
"an execrable meal."
Deserving to be execrated; accursed; damnable; detestable; abominable.
"an execrable wretch"
Similar: accursed damnable detestable abominable
noun
The act of cursing.
A curse.
Something that is cursed or loathed.
Thank you!
Freddie
(10,104 posts)Describes certain people so well. A word well be using often for the next 4 years. Also related to the word excrement.
JoseBalow
(9,489 posts)to the word excrement and assumed it was related, but I did not find a connection for that etymology.
"to curse, imprecate evil upon," hence "to detest utterly, abominate," 1560s, from Latin execratus/exsecratus, past participle of execrari/exsecrari "to curse, utter a curse, take a solemn oath with imprecations; hate, abhor," from ex "out" (see ex-) + sacrare "to devote to" (see sacred). Hence, "to devote off or away; to curse." Compare consecrate. Related: Execrated; execrating.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/execrable
1530s, "waste discharged from the body," from Latin excrementum, from stem of excretus, past participle of excernere "to sift out, discharge," from ex "out" (see ex-) + cernere "sift, separate" (from PIE root *krei- "to sieve," thus "discriminate, distinguish"
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=excrement
Always thought the words were related. Should be.
keep_left
(3,210 posts)...and I've used it fairly often here.
As for Chanel Rion, I think you will find she fits the definition of the word fairly well. Rion has appeared in many a DU post, but not as recently. So I'll remedy that with a couple of links to past DU coverage of Ms. Rion. She started out in the White House press pool during Covid, and was eventually banned for refusing to mask. She now has a truly execrable show on OANN,
"Fine Point with Chanel Rion".
Ms. Rion is well-known (infamous?) for her questionable sartorial choices when it comes to work attire. Note that this photo is not an aberration. Rion arrived at the White House in outfits like this on the regular.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143125554#post6
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/oan-chanel-rion-trump-correspondent-1003975/
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143339153#post11

PortTack
(35,820 posts)History will prove him to be one of the best EVER!
RandomNumbers
(19,156 posts)Glad to meet you!
I'm very pro Biden. I was very pro-Harris once she was the presumptive nominee, and I love Tim Walz. But I think the trashing of Biden by so-called Democrats is awful and stupid, beyond being technically incorrect on almost every point.
calimary
(90,021 posts)President Biden was treated like shit - from people who should have been loyal allies. It was absolutely shameful. Shocking and embarrassing. Disgraceful. And TOTALLY undeserved! They could have locked in solidly behind him and helped promote his agenda. But no. They just HAD TO kick him in the teeth every chance they got.
I think youre right. History will be kind to him. At this point, I can only hope that he lives long enough to see it.
And I bet that when he dies, theyll be falling all over themselves praising him for what a kind, noble, honest, compassionate leader he was - AND how they were right there by his side and supportive as can be, the whole time. Schmucks!
Unca Jim
(579 posts)A look backward is natural enough, and it's OK to point out the bad with the good.
Self Esteem
(2,248 posts)Biden's decision to run for a second term and the impact it had on the 2024 election will be discussed for years - especially the part about the catastrophic debate and reaction from the party.
1WorldHope
(2,054 posts)LuvLoogie
(8,815 posts)They had to try to destroy him to cover for their own ineptitude and quid pro quo tendancies.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)Catzer
(4 posts)Overall, Biden was a great president. Not great was the inexplicable lack of support for his accomplishments from the media, democrats and even his own administration. Had the national effects of some of his legislation actually reached the ears of this nation, his numbers would've been higher. Seems an ongoing issue for democrats.
That said... no one will ever know if Biden would have beaten Trump. And as far as Alexandra Pelosi goes: Girl, you are the one who needs to put your big pants on. Bashing on others is not an admirable trait. It's ugly and serves absolutely no purpose. Keep your family business in the family. It's TMI for the rest of us.
chowder66
(12,245 posts)They need to figure it out with each other..
LisaM
(29,634 posts)I didn't think he should drop out and was disheartened by it. I was also disheartened by the treatment he got at the debate, sandbagged out of the gate with an out-of-context talking point. Jake Tapper knows better and, if he is an actual journalist, as he claims, he should also have known that Biden had just finished negotiating a very tricky hostages release of five hostage. That should have been mentioned off the top. But assholes like Jake Tapper have decided "debates" are for gotcha moments, not discussions about serious policy issues.
Beyond that, if the press had "concerns" (I use the term loosely here) about Biden's age and insisted on pounding that narrative into the ground, then why weren't they showing equal concern about Trump's age and diminishing capacity? Why didn't they try to trip him up with gotcha moments? Why didn't Jake Tapper ask him about his miserable record as President and being impeached twice? Why didn't the felony convictions come up?
Why are elections won and lost on personality, not policy?
totodeinhere
(13,688 posts)there might be something to it?
I have been a big Biden supporter but I am not blind. A lot of Democrats whom I respect were urging him to get out of the race. And just because those respected Democrats took that stance are we going to throw them all under the bus? I don't think so. I have never felt that blind unquestioning loyalty to any politician is productive. Trump has a blind knee-jerk cult that supports him no matter what. I think that we Dems are better than that.
JoseBalow
(9,489 posts)is the only "politician" I have ever felt any sense of "unquestioning loyalty" to.
I just love that guy!
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)just gonna say that JB.............I don't know who the woman was, who got bunged undies over a nothing burger comical picture of him clowning around. Forcing him to leave office was an absolute travesty.........
If we had good leadership controlling the Dem Party, we would not have shit like this blown way way way out of proportion.
JoseBalow
(9,489 posts)I believe you're thinking of Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York.
I miss Al so much, I wish he could somehow come back. We could really use him in the Senate now.
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)Because you seem to have blind unquestioning loyality to pushing the propaganda campaign from scumbag Chris LaCivita. Mastermind of swift boats liars, Trumps campaign manager very effectively falsely projected Trumps very real mental instability onto Biden.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_LaCivita
totodeinhere
(13,688 posts)let alone have loyalty to him.. This is about what other Democrats did prior to Biden's dropping out. I don't know what it has to do with any Republican.. Actually from what I understand the Republicans wanted Joe to stay in the race because they thought he would be easier to beat.
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)That despicable lie campaign that turned John Kerry from a genuine war hero to an alleged traitor.
The same Chris LaCivita who turned one of the most empathetic, smart and politically savvy President weve ever had into an alleged senile pervert (which Trump is)
Theres reason Trump hired LaCivita.
The fact that youve never heard of LaVita is on you. And it is absolutely nothing for you to be proud of or boast about.
But def keep on boasting about ill informed you are about facts and despicable smear campaigns and how they work. and keep on promoting lies from bad faith pundits about Democratics that in the end benefit the GOP/MAGA.
Like that guy said, "Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it"
totodeinhere
(13,688 posts)Pelosi, Schumer and President Obama himself worked to that end. And there was George Clooney who worked to get Biden to drop out after having dinner with Obama. I am a big admirer of all of them and I am not ready to throw them under the bus. And I doubt if any of those Dems were working for Chris LaCivita. At the same time as I said before I have always supported President Biden. Also, I am not promoting lies. Everything I said can be backed up by reputable news sources and not just right wing media.
I used to think that it was only the Republicans who engaged in conspiracy theories, but I am beginning to rethink that after some of the stuff I have read at DU.
https://www.newsweek.com/barack-obama-undermining-biden-morning-joe-1923861
FormerOstrich
(2,889 posts)I always try to understand others positions. I don't base my opinions from an amplified echo chamber.
I concluded it is unjustified and has become a self-fulfilling prophecy. I saw the debate. I didn't have my head in the sand.
I can't know if I am right or wrong. It is my opinion. Admittedly I am shell shocked. I am disillusioned. I may not be seeing things clearly...but it feels like I am seeing them clearly. I haven't seen any medical or other documentation to back up nearly all the hit pieces. I have seen what looks very much like mob mentality and people seemingly thinking very highly of themselves in positions that can make that matter.
benfranklin1776
(7,016 posts)These hit pieces are disgusting in the extreme 😡
BidenRocks
(3,266 posts)They couldn't stfu for one more damn day!
That's why Dems lose.
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,461 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:58 AM - Edit history (1)
his failure to investigate, prosecute and jail trump is a big reason why the convicted felon will become president again tomorrow.
Garland had four years and apparently didn't recognize that prosecuting a president who tried to overthrow the government of the US so he could stay in office should be his most important mission on taking the AG's office.
timms139
(543 posts)Joe was too old she is certainly passed her expire date in my opinion . She is one reason young people turn their heads at democrats .
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)beyond me.
no_hypocrisy
(54,908 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(179,869 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(16,408 posts)JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)extremely vulnerable, she thinks it is a good idea to throw this anti-Biden bullshit out?
Maybe it is TIME for Pelosi to step down, and her daughter to just GO AWAY.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)DIME in political donations from me.
Instead of trying to UNITE the party after what happen, they have just demonstrated why they themselves should retire.
