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Last edited Sun Jan 19, 2025, 09:58 PM - Edit history (2)
'Congress gave the president the right to make a deal to whatever he wants.' It will cost nothing and make a lot of money.
Trump touts his plan to save TikTok during his victory rally
Its not entirely clear how Trump envisions this all playing out, but Trump says, essentially, that TikTok would have a partner in the US government, and theyll have a lot of bidders and the United States will do what we call a joint venture. Trump claims there is no risk to the US because were not putting up any money. All were doing is giving them the approval without which they dont have anything. So, I dont know, it sounds like that works.
https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/19/24347463/trump-plan-to-save-tiktok-from-ban
Transcript - Word Salad even by his standards.
So I said very simply, a joint venture. So, if TikTok is worth nothing, zero without an approval, you know you dont approve, theyre out of business, theyre worth nothing.
If you do approve, theyre worth like a trillion dollars, theyre worth some crazy number. So I said, Ill approve, but let the United States of America own 50% of TikTok.Im approving on behalf of the United States.
So theyll have a partner, the United States, and theyll have a lot of bidders and the United States will do what we call a joint venture. And theres no risk, were not putting up any money. All were doing is giving them the approval without which they dont have anything. So, I dont know, it sounds like that works. What do you think, good? So, whether you like TikTok or not, were gonna make a lot of money.
EDIT: The New York Times says "it was impressive politics on all sides" ( ! )
Mr. Trump went on to describe, in the vaguest of terms, his newest idea: Reconstitute TikTok as a 50-50 joint venture between the existing Chinese owner, ByteDance, and some kind of American entity. It has a surface appeal, though it is not clear it would satisfy the mandate of the law Congress passed and President Biden signed banning the app unless the company and the algorithm are under American control.
Nor is it evident that it would address the national security problem inherent in having TikToks algorithms which monitor the selections of users and pick the next thing shown to them written in China.
But it was impressive politics on all sides. By shutting down the app for a bit of Saturday night and Sunday morning, TikTok made vivid to its loyal users what the world would be like without the app. (That shouldnt be hard to imagine: It first came into Americans phones in 2016, just two months before Mr. Trump was elected for the first time.) And it created, for just a few hours, a standoff that Mr. Trump could then leap in and resolve, at least temporarily, on his way to the rally of his supporters in Washington on Sunday afternoon.
LeftInTX
(34,302 posts)Congress won't allow that one.
speak easy
(12,598 posts)mr715
(3,564 posts)he is an idiocy black hole.
He is somehow simultaneously entirely confident and completely oblivious.
He is a joke
highplainsdem
(62,159 posts)You know, there's a saying - and a subreddit - about all orange cats sharing a single brain cell.
I suspect the same is true of Trumps, and they completely misplace that single brain cell a lot while fighting over it.
mr715
(3,564 posts)They very well might. Congress is really a collection of ambition wrapped in suits.
I agree, though, that stuff ain't gonna happen. It is freaking hilarious, though. He is so, so dumb.
Irish_Dem
(81,277 posts)Sure.
Mountainguy
(2,145 posts)Theoretically, let's say the deal was lifting the ban if ByteDance transfered 50%+1 ownership to the US Government. That doesn't include any spending so congress can't stop the funding for it. It satisfies the need for bytedance to give up control to a US entity...
Would be very odd and probably a failure, but not sure there's anything congress could do to prevent it.
LeftInTX
(34,302 posts)He will need to beg congress. Sure, he can create it via an EO, but how will he fund it? It's like "Mexico is gonna pay for the wall"
karynnj
(60,968 posts)Sound crime family enough? Not to mention, what would it mean if the US owned 50 percent? Does the US then create an agency to make decisions on it? How many other foreign companies do we similarly blackmail?
Then, what happens if other countries do the same to our international companies. ( Could they please start with X?)
Mountainguy
(2,145 posts)Again, theoretically, you wouldn't have to have it run by an agency. You could bid out the rights to manage it. Let's say you open bids and Google wins offer x amount to manage tiktok for 10 years. Google pays for the rights, keeps the profit over that time, then 10 years later it opens back up. Simplistic and there would likely be a lot more to it, but that's juts an example.
And I'm not sure it opens much up considering China already demands a lot to be in their market, and most countries just don't have the market share to strongarm anyone globally.
But, I suspect that China and Bytedance aren't all that interested in a joint venture with the US government for TikTok.
There are already many alternatives to TikTok and I'm sure after a brief bit of moaning, most creators and users will migrate to those. Instagram is the obvious choice.
mr715
(3,564 posts)That sounds like... uh, socialism.
Irish_Dem
(81,277 posts)They already own all the media.
hlthe2b
(113,973 posts)and having access to everything posted by every member?
Really? Do MAGA Tik Tok users really follow THAT logic?
0rganism
(25,647 posts)Seriously, the intersection of MAGA and Tik Tok is not gonna land you the brightest bulbs on the tree...
hlthe2b
(113,973 posts)is totally unwarranted and worse, I suspect an intentional attempt to infer something I never said nor insinuated. Quite clearly, Trump is acting in regard to TikTok ONLY because of complaints from his MAGA voters who use it--not those who do not support him.
If you are that vested in TikTok so as to make every single utterance or thought anyone might have in that regard a personal insult, it is going to be a difficult period for you. Get a grip.
0rganism
(25,647 posts)Just trying for some humor, sorry it didn't land for you. FWIW I don't use TT enough to care about it.
Agree about the difficult period though - we're heading into a very trying decade. My apologies for making it a little worse for you, it wasn't my intention.
hlthe2b
(113,973 posts)'Glad to be back on the same now.
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)the United States of America /s.
What a fucking traitor and creep. MF liar had the audacity to claim Biden was in XIs pocket. Everything is projection w him and his handlers.
Texasgal
(17,240 posts)coming from his mouth.
I doubt he'll be able to pull this off along with a bunch of other shit he promised and is already back peddling on.
Dem4life1234
(2,533 posts)Walk back on the stupid shit he promises.
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mr715
(3,564 posts)We are in for 4 years of these. It is, sorry, fucking hilarious.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)gab13by13
(32,335 posts)Initech
(108,783 posts)0rganism
(25,647 posts)The bullshit's piling up so fast, we're gonna have to excavate to find the country in 10 years, like a full archaeological dig through mountains of metaphorical and actual bullshit. Like in Raiders, but it won't smell like cinema popcorn.
moondust
(21,288 posts)IcyPeas
(25,475 posts)Greenland. Everyone thought that was a joke when he said it first.... next thing you know their serious.
The man is dangerous.
Tickle
(4,131 posts)Unless orange man lied. I'll wait 🍿
Emile
(42,293 posts)What's next? Space Force