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oldsoldierfadingfast

(227 posts)
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 02:57 PM Jan 2025

I have never seen this before...

that I can remember.
I live in SW VA, on the border with NC. It is sunny and bright but 27 degrees here now and predicted to go down to 11 tonight. Will not be above freezing until Thur.
As I just looked out a south facing window, I saw my front yard and pasture filled with Robins.
Where can they go as the temp. drops.
I am really upset and worried for them. Robins have always been my harbinger for spring and today sure ain't spring!

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I have never seen this before... (Original Post) oldsoldierfadingfast Jan 2025 OP
We're having frigid temps here in TN as well Docreed2003 Jan 2025 #1
Much too early for robins. Something's wrong there. brush Jan 2025 #2
I'm on the Oregon coast - no snow or ice predicted, but LOTS of robins today as well! jmbar2 Jan 2025 #3
Our warming planet is causing this GoreWon2000 Jan 2025 #4
There are many Robins in Minnesota in the winter. They appreciate the heated water bath. question everything Jan 2025 #5
Feed them Johnny2X2X Jan 2025 #6
I try to feed them... oldsoldierfadingfast Jan 2025 #10
Robins can stand very cold temperatures as long as there's food available. They'll be fine. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2025 #7
Thank you... oldsoldierfadingfast Jan 2025 #12
Typical wintering American Robin behavior. carpetbagger Jan 2025 #8
As we have been warned... Think. Again. Jan 2025 #9
I've seen flocks of robins land here in WNC in mid-winter for decades wishstar Jan 2025 #11
I remember going to work one morning in 1977. doc03 Jan 2025 #13
I see large flocks robins every winter here in Michigan WestMichRad Jan 2025 #14
The American Robin website says they'll be fine. Renew Deal Jan 2025 #15
We have had -20 here in southeast Michigan. Not often, thank goodness, but it isn't exceptional. Srkdqltr Jan 2025 #16
Northern Michigan Cirsium Jan 2025 #17
Of course you did. Hell froze over too. Srkdqltr Jan 2025 #19
It is 9 degrees there right now Cirsium Jan 2025 #20
Went to a cool quilt shop in Paradise mi. Also there is a series of detective books set there. Srkdqltr Jan 2025 #21
Meh, I saw robins on Jan 1 in Pittsburgh one year. eppur_se_muova Jan 2025 #18
Thank you... oldsoldierfadingfast Jan 2025 #22
 

GoreWon2000

(1,461 posts)
4. Our warming planet is causing this
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 03:04 PM
Jan 2025

As the polar ice cap continues to melt, gravity is pulling all of that melt southward which is blocking the warmer water currents from coming up from the south that moderate the temperature.

Johnny2X2X

(24,115 posts)
6. Feed them
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 03:08 PM
Jan 2025

Birds go South more for food than temperature. They will be fine in freezing temperatures as long as they can find food for their bellies.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,867 posts)
7. Robins can stand very cold temperatures as long as there's food available. They'll be fine.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 03:09 PM
Jan 2025

Some stay in the northern states and Canada year round.

carpetbagger

(5,480 posts)
8. Typical wintering American Robin behavior.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 03:09 PM
Jan 2025

They do well enough in the cold, 11F for a few nights shouldn't do much. Usually the ones up north in winter are a bit more solitary, but moving in small and big flocks through fields and woods is what they do down here in Texas, and iirc at least as far as Oklahoma and Georgia.

Edit: a bit disconcerting to see this further north of you hadn't seen it before. Could be chance, could be local land use changes, more likely climate change and range shift, I suspect they've been lingering up North due to mostly warm weather .

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
9. As we have been warned...
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 03:14 PM
Jan 2025

...for the past 50 years by Climate Scientists, the CO2 emissions we continue to release from burning fossil fuels is causing atmospheric temperature changes that are severely affecting the delicate ecological balances our planet has achieved over millions of years.
These imbalances and the changes they are causing are happening at a rate of speed that natural counterbalances can not possibly keep up with.

These imbalances are occurring in every aspect of our ecology, from weather patterns, to water cycles, to animal and insect seasonal habitat and migration, and more, and these balance disruptions will continue to cause even more planetary chaos as the atmospheric CO2 concentration continues to build.

You're lucky you're seeing any Robins at all, we have already lost 73% of our non-human species population in just the last 50 years:

https://www.worldwildlife.org/publications/2024-living-planet-report

wishstar

(5,825 posts)
11. I've seen flocks of robins land here in WNC in mid-winter for decades
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 03:19 PM
Jan 2025

despite temps well below freezing, especially in my yard and neighbors because we have numerous holly bushes loaded with berries. But I have often wondered where they are flying in and out from during December until spring.

Between robins, squirrels, cardinals, and occasionally bears too, all of the holly berries are usually gone well before spring but this year the berries are unusually abundant. Good for the wildlife as our temps have been much colder than normal since before Thanksgiving.

doc03

(39,049 posts)
13. I remember going to work one morning in 1977.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 03:30 PM
Jan 2025

It was -9 this morning, the world isn't ending. It's winter!

WestMichRad

(3,214 posts)
14. I see large flocks robins every winter here in Michigan
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 03:48 PM
Jan 2025

Hanging out in the forest… Even in the coldest times. They feed on berries and other fruits: crabapples, autumn olive, buckthorn berries, mountain ash, sumac….

They’ll be fine if they have a food source.

Renew Deal

(85,029 posts)
15. The American Robin website says they'll be fine.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 03:50 PM
Jan 2025

"Robins have survived blinding blizzards, ice storms, and nights as cold as 30 below zero without human help"

https://journeynorth.org/unpave/robinwinter.html

Srkdqltr

(9,684 posts)
16. We have had -20 here in southeast Michigan. Not often, thank goodness, but it isn't exceptional.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 03:52 PM
Jan 2025

Some of the younger ones have no real weather memories.

Cirsium

(3,873 posts)
20. It is 9 degrees there right now
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:28 PM
Jan 2025

"Hell is a little town on it's way up. We hope you will make Hell your next travel destination. We are surrounded by 400 acres of beautiful campgrounds, biking and hiking trails, a chain of lakes and channels, recreational areas for picnics, and so much more! We back up to the Potawatomi trail, and to the beautiful Pinckney Recreation Area. Bring your family for a little bit of Hell on Earth."

https://www.gotohellmi.com/

I am closer to Paradise.

"Paradise Michigan is a quaint little town situated in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan with plenty of activities for visitors and locals alike to enjoy! From outdoor activities to unique museums, this historic town offers something for everyone. Here are 12 fun things to do in Paradise Michigan that will make your visit unforgettable! From kayaking and fishing to exploring its rich history, you'll never be bored in Paradise Michigan. So come and enjoy all that this charming town has to offer!"

https://quartzmountain.org/article/things-to-do-in-paradise-michigan

Srkdqltr

(9,684 posts)
21. Went to a cool quilt shop in Paradise mi. Also there is a series of detective books set there.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:45 PM
Jan 2025

He'll is neat. Just a small place.

eppur_se_muova

(41,762 posts)
18. Meh, I saw robins on Jan 1 in Pittsburgh one year.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 04:49 PM
Jan 2025

Also saw them picking the ground for berries in Toledo in the middle of Winter -- no other birds around.

Apparently, robins overwinter in some surprisingly cold places.

That "first robin of Spring" thing doesn't hold up well.

22. Thank you...
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 12:49 AM
Jan 2025

to all that replied. You have relieved my worries for the robins. Now, I can go back to feeding the crows, esp. the one with only one leg.
To Cirsium and Srkdgltr - I really so much enjoyed the dialog between the two of you. Made me laugh.

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