Just saw video of Musk's salute

[BeneteauBum]

Scared the hell out of me……but the audience roared it’s approval. It will a troubled America for the next few years….if not longer.
Peace starts with me.☮️

[Klarkashton]

1. I don't think the people in Wilkes Barre and Kenosha

Realized what they were voting for. They thought it was about making the economy better - cheaper eggs.

[LisaL]

2. I got news for them, they are not getting cheaper eggs any time soon.

NT

[Klarkashton]

6. They are getting roving proud boy patrols looking

For commies instead.

[erodriguez]

29. They aren't innocent. Of course they knew.

[Figarosmom]

32. Im in Kenosha

And I'm afraid many did know this was what they were voting for. The county is full of idiots that have no clue about history.

They think it's " cool" to be white supremists and nazi. Skokie IL isn't that far away and nazis have been in the streets there for decades, marching year after year and their marches are getting bigger not smaller.

[stollen]

35. They gave up democracy for the price of eggs

Sounds like something an American would do, with their hand over heart.

[wackadoo wabbit]

3. Peace starts with me, too

Thanks for writing that. It's important to remember that peace will start with us all.

[wnylib]

25. Is that a "peace in our times" kind of peace?

[BeneteauBum]

47. Kind of peace

Each day I treat my community kindly without bias. I refuse to perpetuate violence whether physical or verbal. Instead, I counsel peace. That kind of peace.
Peace ☮️

[wnylib]

49. Peace is my preference, too.

But I am not a peace at any price sort of person.

[BeneteauBum]

50. Exactly

I will call out violence and bigotry when I see it although it probably won’t change anything. I do not stand idly by while hatred is perpetuated. I have friends who caution my stance and say one day someone will take a swing at me. I’m a 73 year old sailor enjoying my retirement aboard a beautiful sloop…..any physical violence towards me is a felony.
Peace ☮️

[erodriguez]

31. Fuck peace. You have to fight Nazis.

[BeneteauBum]

48. If you advocate violence..

then you perpetuate violence. That paradigm fits right in with MAGA/Nazi dogma. Good luck.
Peace ☮️

[UTUSN]

4. My reaction to it was to ponder whether I was being hyperbolic with this:

[MadameButterfly]

8. My God what a brilliant scene

I remember it well but it has more impact now. The way it builds, the angelic tone turns fierce, the old man in dismay.

[El Supremo]

5. Sieg!

Link to tweet

[dchill]

23. The love of self is so important.

[Irish_Dem]

7. I am thankful WWII vets are no longer around to see this happen.

[MadameButterfly]

9. Its as if the last first hand memory of that conflict

had to die for this to happen

[Irish_Dem]

11. Yes. Until the WWII vets were gone, US Nazis could not show their faces.

[BOSSHOG]

10. MY FIL stormed Omaha Beach 6 June 1944

Lost his left arm during the ensuing March to Paris. Soft spoken, kind. He and my MIL were always incredibly good to me. The only time I got any indication of anger from him was when the subject was republicans. I’m glad he is not witness to this, whatever this is.

[Irish_Dem]

12. He is very lucky to have lived through that day.

He sounds like a good man. Yes I am glad he was spared what we witnessed today.

My dad was a kid flying the Burma Hump as a tail gunner then stayed career military.
I don't think it is possible to describe his feelings or language if he had seen current events.
Dem to his core, born and raised in Boston of Irish parents. Grew up in an Irish Dem city.

[jeffreyi]

13. My stepdad was a pilot, doing the same thing.

He resumed commercial piloting after the war, continued until retirement. They seem like giants now.

[Irish_Dem]

14. Men of character, dedication, risking their lives for freedom and the US.

Trump calls them suckers and losers.

[jeffreyi]

17. Our accomplished, tough, decent dads would have had something to say about that, I dare say.

[Irish_Dem]

18. You do not want to hear what my dad would have said.

Career US military, first generation Irish American, flew combat in three wars.

You can imagine it.

Same with your dad no doubt.

[jeffreyi]

19. I wish they and their like were still with us.

Maybe this s**tshow would not be happening. Best to you.

[Irish_Dem]

21. Their bravery and sacrifice no longer seem in vogue.

I guarantee you that if they were with us today we would not be looking at Nazi leadership in the US.

Yes we think of them today.

Best to you too.

[B.See]

40. My dad too, Irish. A

Black man and career military man who, though he faced discrimination in America, served our country in both WWII and Korea.

Greatest guy I've ever known.

[Irish_Dem]

46. Brings tears to my eyes.

How bravely black military men fought in WWII, only to face severe discrimination when they
returned home.

Have you seen any of the movies about the WWII Black air crews?
Red Tails is one of them. A story about the Tuskegee airman who flew F-16s
to protect the bomber crews who had been under great risk during their missions.
The enemy was shooting them down in great numbers.

The Air Force decided to form a group to protect the bombers and the Red Tails were born.
Black airmen who were extremely brave. They flew their airplanes right next to to the bombers
to and from the target site, at great risk.

Other protective (white) support squadrons would flee from the mission if the danger was too great.
Not the Red Tails, they never left the bombers, never. Unless they were shot down.

They became famous and the white bomber crews specifically asked for them to fly with them on missions.

[B.See]

52. Yes. Saw it and similar. But then again

such stories, including the Japanese Internment camps (as in concentration) are some of many stories of minorites in the service of America in spite of racism and discrimination.

The historical facts that some don't want taugh, but rather, erased from record.

[Irish_Dem]

53. As long as I am alive I am going to keep telling these stories.

Talking about the Red Tails, Navaho Code Talkers, the Six Triple Eight, Black Women's Army Corp,
the US internment camps, etc.

I grew up in a US military family, am a WWII buff, so I tell the stories.

The evils ones cannot erase every single fact in the world, or all the stories of supreme courage and sacrifice
made by all Americans to save our democracy.

I am older, white, and it's one of the things I can do.

[Volaris]

15. Those 2 things are probably more correlated than you think.

[Irish_Dem]

16. Yes. WWII vets had to be gone before US Nazis could come to power.

[GopherGal]

20. He might as well have been upholding his middle finger

to all of those brave Americans.

Disgusting POS.

[Irish_Dem]

22. I had the same thought. Telling them their sacrifice and bravery were meaningless.

[Efilroft Sul]

24. Something else of note: Musk twice did the salute at the podium with the presidential seal.

But the ADL tries to sane-wash this crap.

[John1956PA]

26. As another DUer pointed out, his aggressive facial expression is alarming.

These were no disco dance arm thrusts. I posted earlier that it looked to me that they were the product of roid rage.

[LudwigPastorius]

38. "...ketamine use is associated with numerous side effects, including... aggressive or violent behavior."

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6315094/

[DBoon]

39. "This is your politics on drugs"

[wnylib]

27. ADL sane washes Nazi symbols? Really?

[niyad]

30. There is a leengthy DU thread on it from just a bit earlier.

[wnylib]

33. I just read about it on another thread after posting on this one.

WTF is going on with the ADL?

I saw a video if the salute. No way in hell that it was not a Nazi salute. I know what they look like and I know what I saw.

[niyad]

34. Same here.

[Cha]

44. The CEO, Jonathan Greenblat.

[electric_blue68]

54. I'm ex-Catholic, and grew up in a 2/3rds Jewish neighborhood. The horrors of Nazi Germany hung over them, and we who...

paid attention.
(even saw a friend's older relative's numbers "tatoo", yeah. )

It sure looked like a damn Nazi salute to me!

PLUS...look at all the fuckin' Nazis/Neo-Nazis who reacted positively to this??!!!
Hellooooo, ADL !! WTF?!!!

Someone said in another thread that since ADL is so protective of ?anything Israel does lessens their reaction. I don't know, not sure exactly how that fits in. (tired)

IF it is.....SHAME on them! They should know better!

[Charmin One]

28. It was clearly a fascist salute

Criminal fascists rejoiced

[stollen]

36. That woukd have been illegal in Germany

[Grumpy Old Guy]

37. A friend just told me it was a "simple wave."

The "twisted left" was making it something else. I let them know that they are now out of my life.

[miyazaki]

41. A few Du'er's are defending it as well. If they don't know who he is by now,

why even bother with them.

[Grumpy Old Guy]

45. Chutzpah!

It takes a lot of chutzpah to tell a Jewish person, (which I am), that I don't know a Nazi salute when I see one.

[andym]

42. He would have been arrested in Germany for that arm motion, as would have Dr. Strangelove

[Cha]

43. Consider the Source of the audience...

wait until Enough Shit Goes Down that the Hitler Salute Doesn't seem so fucking Cool Anymore.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

51. Elon Musk's salute to Trump supporters is going viral

Remember Elon is from the South Africa and supports a Nazi affiliated party in the current German elections. Noone should be surprised by the salute

Link to tweet

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/01/20/donald-trump-inauguration-day-news-updates-analysis/elon-mars-salute-00199464

Elon Musk’s use of hand gestures that critics are comparing to a fascist salute is quickly taking on a life of its own on social media.

The tech billionaire offered a vigorous, straight-armed salute Monday while on the stage at Capitol One Arena as he told the crowd “My heart goes out to you.”

Critics on social media immediately compared the gesture to a “Sieg Heil,” the victory salute used to excite crowds in Nazi Germany.

“I never imagined we would see the day when what appears to be a heil Hitler salute would be made behind the Presidential seal,” Democratic Rep. Jerry Nadler wrote on X. “This abhorrent gesture has no place in our society and belongs in the darkest chapters of human history.’’

Republicans Against Trump, which has nearly 800,000 followers on Musk’s platform X, posted a clip of the gesture, writing “Wait, did Musk just do a Nazi salute?”

A representative for Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Musk has been reposting content on X to his nearly 215 million followers, including clips of his remarks, but has not responded to the controversy.

Remember Elon is currently supporting a Nazi affiliated party in the German elections

“Only the AfD can save Germany,” Elon Musk wrote, referencing the far-right anti-immigrant and anti-Islam party in Europe’s largest country.

Why Elon Musk’s support for Germany’s far-right party matters

www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/sh...

— Stephanie Kennedy (@wordswithsteph.bsky.social) 2024-12-21T10:08:16.923Z

Link to tweet

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/elon-musk-germany-far-right-party-afd-rcna185065

In fact, as NBC News reported, the world’s wealthiest individual apparently has some specific opinions about what voters in Europe’s largest country should do next.

Elon Musk waded into Germany’s election Friday, expressing his support for a far-right anti-immigrant and anti-Islam party that’s being monitored by the country’s domestic intelligence agency. ‘Only the AfD can save Germany,’ the tech billionaire wrote on X, referring to the Alternative for Germany party.

......The NBC News report, meanwhile, added:

The party is monitored by the country’s domestic intelligence agency for suspected extremism. Party leader Björne Höcke has twice been found guilty by a German court of purposefully employing Nazi rhetoric. He has appealed the rulings. And in May the party’s top candidate, Maximilian Krah, was forced to withdraw from campaigning after he told an Italian newspaper that the SS, the Nazis’ main paramilitary force, were ‘not all criminals.’

It’s against this backdrop that Musk publicly declared that he sees the AfD as Germany’s “only” saviors.

The fact that the conspiratorial billionaire has expressed support for such a radical foreign party would, of course, be far less interesting in the United States were it not for the fact that Musk has become a highly relevant figure in American politics, effectively purchasing electoral influence, attaching himself to an incoming president, sitting in on meetings with foreign leaders, huddling with members of Congress, helping kill legislation for reasons that don’t make sense, weighing in on Cabinet choices and heading up a powerless advisory panel that the political world is pretending has real authority.

This is the guy who’s also, evidently, hoping to see Europe’s largest country in far-right hands