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Some of the best responses I've seen regarding the nazi salute
It was Fascism not Autism - Say it correctly
The problem with nazi salutes in liberal societies is that the optics and positioning of a salute will be dissected for a week on the media instead of what
should be done with a nazi.
Nazis: "that's a nazi salute"
Historians: "that's a nazi salute"
Average person: "that's a nazi salute"
The Media: "Elon Musk makes odd gesture throwing his heart to the
crowd."
If what Elon did wasn't a Nazi salute
then do it tomorrow at work.
The rules, if you are keeping track: If a single left activist anywhere in the world says "defund the police," it becomes the official position of the Democratic Party, now and forever. If the president's top surrogate repeatedly sieg-heils on stage,
it's ambiguous, impossible to interpret.
Pay very close attention to the individuals
constantly making excuses for the Nazis.
Walleye
(44,741 posts)osteopath6
(195 posts)Would know. And they say it wasn't.
Need to show some grace and give people the benefit of the doubt sometimes. If you get worked up over every little thing real and imagined, people stop listening to anything you say and stop taking you seriously.
This is why labeling every word, wince and cross-wise gaseous excrement as impending facism fell so flat on its face. People who know the definitions of those things can see this isn't that.
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)osteopath6
(195 posts)You don't lile how the guy votes. Who he supports. We get it. That doesn't mean he has to be a devil worshipping, child sacrificing satanic minion from hell bent in restoring Hitler.
I think the ADL knows what it's talking about. Sometimes an awkward gesture is just an awkward gesture. He has Asperger's, full stop.
"Those contemptible fools" lamented Musk. Doesn't sound like someone supporting hateful ideology to me. Maybe it's just me, not looking for a problem.
Why is it the only person on the spectrum of Autism is accused of something blatantly divergent from his past (and current) demonstrable beliefs? And the evidence being used to justify laying down such a horrific indictment against a fellow human? A single awkward gesture that doesn't comport with any past statements or behaviors of this type?
Would you want to be slandered with such flimsy "evidence"?
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)https://www.disconnect.blog/p/elon-musk-is-a-racist
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/15/tesla-settles-racial-discrimination-lawsuit.html
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/09/twitter-x-racism-elon-musk/679928/
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/elon-musk-x-twitter-antisemitism-hashtags-trending-hate-rcna151945
https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-posts-racist-images-233201899.html
https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/guardian-quits-elon-musk-owned-x-citing-racism-and-conspiracy-theories/article68866452.ece
https://fortune.com/2024/03/18/elon-musk-don-lemon-interview-tesla-race-settlement-discrimination/
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/15/media/elon-musk-antisemitism-white-people/index.html
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/3/22/2230957/-Elon-s-Racist-Apartheid-Past
https://www.theroot.com/5-times-elon-musk-bumped-up-against-the-racism-line-1851729499
https://www.theroot.com/elon-musks-racism-has-gotten-so-bad-the-white-house-has-1851032398
But before I go, let me say I was on Twitter for a decade and saw how regularly Elmer casually retweeted hateful stereotypes, racist tropes and pure agitprop bullshit from known white supremacist accounts before cutting to the chase and just tweeting that garbage directly... There's a very real reason why Elmo's "Day One" act after his Twitter takeover was to reinstate all the banned conspiracy nutbar and White Power accounts -- Even the openly violent ones.
And I'm only going to say this once -- I'm a black man and I'm on the Autism spectrum... And I'm getting really fucking sick and tired with this trend of supposedly grown-ass men using "autism" as some one-size-fits-all excuse for shitty undisciplined behavior. If Elmo has this little self-awareness and control over his actions, maybe he needs to sit his ass down somewhere and stop seeking the public spotlight...🤨
tulipsandroses
(8,247 posts)"To be a Negro in this country and to be relatively conscious is to be in a state of rage almost, almost all of the time and in one's work. And part of the rage is this: It isn't only what is happening to you. But it's what's happening all around you and all of the time in the face of the most extraordinary and criminal indifference, indifference of most white people in this country, and their ignorance."
Crunchy Frog
(28,275 posts)Even to people who are objectively antisemitic. That's my impression of them anyway.
malaise
(295,898 posts)R3c
Celerity
(54,344 posts)https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100219707643
Nick Martin
@nick-martin.bsky.social
8h
*blinks*


Nick Martin
@nick-martin.bsky.social
8h
I just don't know sometimes.
Nick Martin
@nick-martin.bsky.social
8h
But you know what? In this case, I do know.
The CEO of a major anti-hate organization should not be offering congratulations to a politician who has espoused the same ideas that led to mass shootings at a Walmart in El Paso, a neighborhood supermarket in Buffalo, and a synagogue in Pittsburgh.
Nick Martin
@nick-martin.bsky.social
I've covered too many massacres driven by "great replacement" nonsense. Too many people have been murdered. Too many parents, children and siblings have been lost to this sickness.
I'm nobody, but Jonathan Greenblatt should retract his endorsement of Stefanik. I hope others ask him to do the same.
November 11, 2024 at 11:55 PM
In fact, why congratulate them at all? Is the ADL not aware of all the hate groups affiliated with MAGA?
I've covered too many massacres driven by "great replacement" nonsense. Too many people have been murdered. Too many parents, children and siblings have been lost to this sickness.
— Nick Martin (@nick-martin.bsky.social) 2024-11-12T04:55:29.710Z
I'm nobody, but Jonathan Greenblatt should retract his endorsement of Stefanik. I hope others ask him to do the same.
58Sunliner
(6,321 posts)Gore1FL
(22,950 posts)Here is .GIF Hitler and Musk doing it in sync:

Johnny2X2X
(24,186 posts)He absolutely meant to give a Nazi salute. That is for sure in my mind. Whether he did it to just rile people up or if he did it because he's an actual Nazi is the remaining question.
Virtually every Nazi and Neo Nazi on the planet though got the message and are thrilled he did it.
tulipsandroses
(8,247 posts)Proud Boys and other white supremacists knew exactly what he meant.
ForgoTheConsequence
(5,185 posts)To a far right supporting, racist, anti-free-speech billionaire who bought the last election? NO FUCKING WAY.
Paladin
(32,354 posts)No way in hell are the mainstream media elites going to protect us from the new fascist regime. The NY Times opinion assholes will still be whining about Democrat mistakes---at the same time that gas chambers are being set up in U.S. military bases. We're going to have to save ourselves, one way or another.
Crunchy Frog
(28,275 posts)If they really plan to kill us, we'd best take as many of them with us as possible.
58Sunliner
(6,321 posts)dchill
(42,660 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)MiKenMi33
(231 posts)Theyre doing their best to normalize it, dont let them. Its what theyre trying to do so it will be acceptable to all eventually. Weve got to continue calling them out.
Johnny2X2X
(24,186 posts)
This is Fraktur font? It's not used for things anymore because it's closely associated with Nazism. So he's just accidentally making Nazi salutes 2 months after accidentally wearing a hat embroidered in Nazi font. All a big coincidence, sure.
It's the freaking font the original Mein Kampf is printed in.
electric_blue68
(26,836 posts)😦
Crunchy Frog
(28,275 posts)As well as making it a safe space for neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers and extreme expressions of antisemitism.
Johnny2X2X
(24,186 posts)Its not him trolling IMO, hes a white supremacist.
Its time we stop dancing around this, some of the people who control our country are literal Neo Nazis.
sakabatou
(46,126 posts)We may be bad in social environments and with cues, but we're not idiots.
meadowlander
(5,130 posts)So no self-respecting, even moderately self-aware autistic person would ever do a Nazi salute even as a joke.
electric_blue68
(26,836 posts)Most likely HR will be calling!
spooky3
(38,589 posts)The Wandering Harper
(915 posts)UTUSN
(77,746 posts)Initech
(108,708 posts)Fuck Trump, fuck Elon, fuck Fox News!
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,612 posts)