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Stop it (Original Post) mercuryblues Jan 2025 OP
It's possible to be insane and senile and also an asshole. Ocelot II Jan 2025 #1
RIGHT elleng Jan 2025 #3
WRONG elleng Jan 2025 #2
Why do mental health professionals say it then? dem4decades Jan 2025 #4
Because people think that well trained, highly educated, experienced PhD professionals are stupid Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #6
You get pushback? Disaffected Jan 2025 #11
Have those mental health professionals mercuryblues Jan 2025 #8
There are mental health professionals who claimed Biden suffered from dementia. Self Esteem Jan 2025 #23
Agree DeepWinter Jan 2025 #5
Trump was born a narcissistic sociopath. That will never change. Very special kind of asshole. 58Sunliner Jan 2025 #7
I don't know that he was born that way but he certainly seems to be those things Redleg Jan 2025 #14
I don't know any of them to say either way EdmondDantes_ Jan 2025 #9
The felon H2O Man Jan 2025 #10
THIS malaise Jan 2025 #17
Thank you. H2O Man Jan 2025 #18
He is, of course, a fucking asshole👍🏼 spanone Jan 2025 #29
This! Dem4life1234 Jan 2025 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author AkFemDem Jan 2025 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Wifes husband Jan 2025 #20
"According to the Trump election staff." Tanuki Jan 2025 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Wifes husband Jan 2025 #32
They're on the Rectum lame54 Jan 2025 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Wifes husband Jan 2025 #16
I hope the DSM-6 adds a "Cluster D Asshole Disorder" to the list of Personality Disorders. Buns_of_Fire Jan 2025 #19
I watched part of his scripted inaugural speech, Lars39 Jan 2025 #21
He has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and he's always had it. maxsolomon Jan 2025 #22
Way beyond Assholes... Sadistic Evil Cha Jan 2025 #24
I agree about the Alzheimer's. Self Esteem Jan 2025 #25
Yup orangecrush Jan 2025 #26
True. His narcissism and sociopathy are personality disorders, not mental illnesses. NH Ethylene Jan 2025 #27
Totally disagree. Mike 03 Jan 2025 #28
The fact that they are assholes drmeow Jan 2025 #31
Calling the orange monstrosity an asshole is an insult to assholes the world over. Dorothy V Jan 2025 #33

Irish_Dem

(80,941 posts)
6. Because people think that well trained, highly educated, experienced PhD professionals are stupid
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:04 PM
Jan 2025

and don't know what they are talking about.

I get that pushback here all the time.

Disaffected

(6,372 posts)
11. You get pushback?
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:16 PM
Jan 2025

I'm still wondering why you think "RFKjr is salivating about how many people he can kill right off the bat.".

mercuryblues

(16,359 posts)
8. Have those mental health professionals
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:05 PM
Jan 2025

Ever met them?

They are assholes. It is past time to stop making excuses for their behaviors.

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
23. There are mental health professionals who claimed Biden suffered from dementia.
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 07:36 PM
Jan 2025

Any mental health professional who makes a diagnosis without the proper check up is treading on malpractice.

 

DeepWinter

(931 posts)
5. Agree
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:04 PM
Jan 2025

You disadvantage yourself when you are dismissive and underestimate your adversary. It is a display of your own ego and hubris.

58Sunliner

(6,307 posts)
7. Trump was born a narcissistic sociopath. That will never change. Very special kind of asshole.
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:05 PM
Jan 2025

Redleg

(6,904 posts)
14. I don't know that he was born that way but he certainly seems to be those things
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:27 PM
Jan 2025

I am a behavioral scientist but don't profess expertise in the Dark Triad personality stuff.

EdmondDantes_

(1,699 posts)
9. I don't know any of them to say either way
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:07 PM
Jan 2025

But when in doubt, definitely better to just go with the fact that they are assholes. Autistic people, the mentally ill, and those with dementia have enough problems without being associated with Trump. In my experience, dementia was more likely to turn certain behaviors up. My mom's aunt was an awful person before dementia, was a more awful person with dementia. My grandfather was a good person before dementia and after was in many ways better in terms of consideration of others.

H2O Man

(78,949 posts)
10. The felon
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:07 PM
Jan 2025

is not suffering from a major mental illness. But he is not a picture of mental health. As noted with 100% accuracy in the first of my series of three interviews with Dr. Bandy Lee in 2000, he is a sociopath. More, linguistics expert John McWhorter (Columbia University) has spoken about the implications of the felon's decreasing vocabulary.

He is, of course, a fucking asshole.

Dem4life1234

(2,533 posts)
12. This!
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:16 PM
Jan 2025

Facts!!

The man is not a senile, he is just pure evil and in his old age, plus winning (stealing) a second term, he doesn't give a damn anymore. He is a psychopath, which a is personality disorder, not a mental illness, who would be in jail had he not been rich AND WHITE.


I was never this worried during his first term, because he was trying to win a second. Now he has it, and he doesn't care.

Response to mercuryblues (Original post)

Response to AkFemDem (Reply #13)

Tanuki

(16,424 posts)
30. "According to the Trump election staff."
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 08:03 PM
Jan 2025

Think about that. They lie about everything. We don't have any evidence that the kid was involved or has any interest in politics.

Response to Tanuki (Reply #30)

Response to mercuryblues (Original post)

Buns_of_Fire

(19,114 posts)
19. I hope the DSM-6 adds a "Cluster D Asshole Disorder" to the list of Personality Disorders.
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 04:31 PM
Jan 2025

It would include everything in Clusters A, B, and C, and have pictures of "Patient P" (Donwuld) and "Patient X" (Eloon, naturally) as examples.

Summary: They're just plain old garden-variety assholes. Don't let them try to use anything in a medical text as an excuse.

Lars39

(26,531 posts)
21. I watched part of his scripted inaugural speech,
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 07:34 PM
Jan 2025

and then part of his speech to the governors. He “switched” gears in his speech and demeanor. I believe he knows exactly what he’s doing and saying.

maxsolomon

(38,580 posts)
22. He has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and he's always had it.
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 07:35 PM
Jan 2025

Is that a mental illness? Not like Schizophrenia, but yes, that's a mental illness per DSM-5.

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
25. I agree about the Alzheimer's.
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 07:40 PM
Jan 2025

I said as much months ago. Any doctor who diagnoses him without a proper checkup is skirting their ethical oath.

Trump seems no less deranged than the day he left office. And unfortunately, especially if you've dealt with someone who suffers from Alzheimer's, it does not progress that slowly - especially since people have been claiming he's suffered from it, or dementia, since at least 2016.

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
28. Totally disagree.
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 07:43 PM
Jan 2025

At the very, very least he has at least one personality disorder, and probably a mixture of two or three. His cognition is on the decline, and this is not something new but was obvious as far back as Bob Woodward's second book on Trump, "Rage."

drmeow

(5,988 posts)
31. The fact that they are assholes
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 10:25 PM
Jan 2025

does not preclude those other things. it is not an either/or.

Dorothy V

(505 posts)
33. Calling the orange monstrosity an asshole is an insult to assholes the world over.
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 11:47 PM
Jan 2025

Hell, the damned thing isn't even human! You can't tell its asshole from its mouth. Both produce shit.

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