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Joe Nation

(1,112 posts)
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:34 PM Jan 2025

I think I'm getting a glimpse of the Dems strategy going forward

And I neither agree nor disagree with it. I believe that the Dems leaders have decided to sit back and let it rain shit on America until they have to swoop in as the only viable alternative and save the day in four years. I think that they believe that they put the best message forward in the last election and got soundly rejected. Now people need to feel the repercussions of the other message over the next four years to realize how dumb they've been in the past.
I expect the Dems to sit back and nonchalantly point out the repercussions of trumpian policies over the next four years but not much else. Let them eat cake.

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Americanme

(490 posts)
3. I think you're right
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:45 PM
Jan 2025

If Dem leaders fight to save the public from what they voted for, it will only benefit the party in power. Voters will say it ain't so bad, let's keep it going. Let them find out that there really is a difference in the parties.

newdeal2

(5,386 posts)
5. They still shouldn't be passive
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:48 PM
Jan 2025

In the sense that they need to actively promote what terrible things Republicans are doing.

Raven123

(7,787 posts)
6. Works for me.
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 03:54 PM
Jan 2025

Just got a request for $ from the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Will wait and see how the new strategy works.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
7. Will likely work out that way. But Dems should push issues like offering a detailed healthcare plan -- after Luigi shot
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 04:06 PM
Jan 2025

the UHC chief -- for laws on denials and maybe even pushed for further healthcare reform. Instead, they did nothing.

Interestingly, CMS the week before Luigi cut loose did issue a proposal for insurers participating in ACA and Medicare Advantage to submit detail reports on the number of denials, type (simple coding issues vs outright denial of care while patient is being treated), number overturned on appeals, outstanding denials, etc.

One has to wonder what took CMS that long?

unblock

(56,193 posts)
9. "Allowing" it to happen is one thing. But we need to better control the narrative.
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 04:22 PM
Jan 2025

We don't have a whole lot of choice, especially if the house manages to line up behind Donnie, in terms of what happens.

But if we continue to let right-wingers control the narrative, we'll continue to be screwed. They will always blame democrats or the Chinese or trans people or immigrants or whatever, and it will work unless we are right there every time placing the blame squarely on republicans.

We *must* fight back loudly and strongly and make sure America knows who is really to blame.

This is the *only* way we *might* be able to save our democracy, or what little is left of it.

ck4829

(37,706 posts)
10. If that's true, I'm against it. I am not OK with this if that is what it is. I am not giving the OK to this.
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 04:22 PM
Jan 2025

"swoop in as the only viable alternative and save the day in four years"

Clean up Republican messes... again?

PASS.

HARD PASS.

Oneironaut

(6,293 posts)
11. They're also letting people in marginalized communities suffer without any pushback.
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 04:28 PM
Jan 2025

If you're able to sit back and say, "Let's just wait until it gets so bad, that, we can swoop in and help as a viable alternative," you're condemning lots of people to suffer and die, and, are in a position of privilege.

Those people won't be alive to see the alternative. They will have needlessly died.

It's a fucking horrible strategy that is no different than throwing your hands up and not caring, like they don't give a shit in the least bit and can't be bothered.

lastlib

(28,234 posts)
12. IOW, roll over, play dead, and hope.....
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 04:59 PM
Jan 2025

...the beast doesn't come sniffing.......

Not a real good strategy for staying alive as a nation. My 2cts.

Wingus Dingus

(9,173 posts)
13. Malicious compliance is the best public posture.
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 05:05 PM
Jan 2025

While, of course, quietly regrouping and strategizing.

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