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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums7 degree windchill tomorrow morning in New Orleans
That is a horrible and dangerous headline. The Big Easy will most likely be Big in the News tomorrow. And yet climate change does not exist.
Tetrachloride
(9,673 posts)minus 9 in my city this morning-not wind chill, actual temperature.
BOSSHOG
(44,738 posts)The populace is not prepared physically or structurally for the next 24 hours.
JustAnotherGen
(38,085 posts)That's freezing and economy killing. I've eaten at the Court in February - those heaters aren't going to work tonight or tomorrow.
BOSSHOG
(44,738 posts)And the Super Bowl in two weeks? NOLA will survive. Some who dat is probably altering a Mardi Gras float to reflect the blizzard warning as we speak. And weather permitting all the shops on Royal Street will have beautifully framed pictures of snow covered NOLA in their windows in time for the Eagles and Bills fans in town for the Super Bowl.
LeftInTX
(34,733 posts)Of course it depends on piping, pipes location and the foundation. If they run water over night, pipes likely won't burst.
My daughter's pipes burst in 2021, but that was after 5 days below freezing and no electricity. She lived in a 110 year old home.
My son's pipes didn't burst and he also lives in a 100 year old pier and beam home. His pipes didn't freeze because the previous owners had switched the pipes to PEX.
Our neighbors who installed a water soften had their pipes burst because pipes were rerouted into the attic for the water softener.
None of our pipes burst. We're on a slab.
All of these involved extended days of freezing, lack of electricity for several days and non-functioning heat sources due to lack of electricity.
JustAnotherGen
(38,085 posts)In 25 degree weather in 2023. New Jersey - Historic home. It was negative 10 degrees here this morning so we just ask the universe for its favor.
The powder room was originally a Butler's Pantry when the house was built. The coat closet was a washroom and is heavily insulated. When they moved that around in the 1940's - they didn't do the right thing. Now we have denim insulation in that bathroom.
But what a mess. I had finally got the dust under control from the restoration and nothing had been disturbed in that room. 100+ year old dust everywhere because shop vacs didn't exist then.
Thank god one of my husband's trades including a plumbing license. That and since he's a blacksmith waa able to weld some of it correctly. We didn't have the cash outlay that people without trades have to pay out.
Its not fun.
NutmegYankee
(16,483 posts)We don't usually have pipes in outside walls by code. For instance, my kitchen sink plumbing punches right through the bottom floor of the under sink cabinet to keep it inside the house. But If I lose power, the plan would be to shutoff the street supply and then drain the system with the washing machine in the basement. Empty pipes don't freeze. Next place antifreeze in toilets and leave hot water heater to do it's thing with gas heat on low.
JustAnotherGen
(38,085 posts)Same way I do in the summer in my historic town - and we are trying to help get ac units for those who don't have them.
My first Summer on council was last year - and that's how you can really help people.. .A society of neighbors. But this a Borough of 4700 - in 1.17 square miles. We live so close we can't avoid helping each other.
People can die in that cold.
And there are a lot of people in the margins in New Orleans who will be missed tonight.
NutmegYankee
(16,483 posts)Remember that wind chill is only for fleshy creatures that lose heat as a measure of how uncomfortable it feels. The actual air temp is the coldest an object can cool down to, regardless of wind speed. A 19°F night will cool an object to no more than 19, whether calm or hurricane force gusting.
Rebl2
(17,892 posts)in Louisiana when he was in the Air Force in the early seventies. So yes I know all about the winter weather in LA. Fifty degrees is balmy weather here in MO during the winter.
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(32,462 posts)Bengus81
(10,305 posts)-9 yesterday morning in Wichita a new record low, warmer this morning though and some 40's coming. We're used to this stuff but in warmer climes keep the water in your home running a slow trickle.
JustAnotherGen
(38,085 posts)I've been for New Years and mid February. Unheard of.
NutmegYankee
(16,483 posts)They'll be just fine.
Tribetime
(7,145 posts)Places in surrounding states much colder
LeftInTX
(34,733 posts)Sometimes it is homeless people. Often it is someone with a poorly functioning space heater or someone who tried to heat their home with their oven. It has gotten better over the decades. Less people live in shacks than they used to.
zuul
(14,704 posts)My house in New Orleans is raised, as many homes are, because we worry about hurricane flooding more than intense winter weather. Its really hard to keep my ground floor warm in these temperatures. I have two separate HVAC systems so I can keep the upper floor warm but downstairs is too cold for me.
I worry about elderly people who live in some of the older shotgun houses. No way they have proper insulation. And so many people will do dumb things to stay warm, like as you stated, using their oven for heat or if they lose power, putting a generator in their garage. There have been some scattered power outages in more rural areas.
And theres already been one house fire because the homeowner didnt know how to properly use his fireplace. I have a fireplace that Ive NEVER used because I have no idea what to do with it.
When the sun comes out today, the snow will start melting, but the temperatures will still be very low today and overnight, so we will have ice on the roads. We dont know how to drive in these conditions, and no doubt there will be dummies out driving around. So there will definitely be auto collisions today.
That idiot governor we have moved a bunch of homeless people out of NO a couple months ago when Taylor Swift was here for 3 concerts. (Boy, were people pissed about that!) And then last week the city started housing them in a temporary facility in the outskirts of the city. (Cant let the Super Bowl fans see the homeless, dontcha know!) So although moving the unhoused away from downtown was a shitty thing to do, it might end up saving some lives. At least theyre indoors now.
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Bengus81
(10,305 posts)Yeah you POS,bad things will probably happen in YOUR State Mike without much warning just like in California.
BOSSHOG
(44,738 posts)LA officials totally failed in preparation. Dont ask for fed help. Be all manly and self reliant.