Trump just halted all external communication from health agencies (CDC, FDA, etc.).

[Tanuki]

This is madness.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/01/21/trump-hhs-cdc-fda-communication-pause/

"The Trump administration has instructed federal health agencies to pause all external communications, such as health advisories, weekly scientific reports, updates to websites and social media posts, according to nearly a dozen current and former officials and other people familiar with the matter.

The instructions were delivered Tuesday to staff at agencies inside the Department of Health and Human Services, including officials at the Food and Drug Administration, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and National Institutes of Health, one day after the new administration took office, according to the people with knowledge, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations. Some people familiar with the matter acknowledged that they expected some review during a presidential transition but said they were confused by the pause’s scope and indeterminate length.

The health agencies are charged with making decisions that touch the lives of every American and are the source of crucial information to health-care providers and organizations across the country.

The pause on communications includes scientific reports issued by the CDC, known as the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR); advisories sent out to clinicians on CDC’s health alert network about public health incidents; data updates to the CDC website; and public health data releases from the National Center for Health Statistics, which tracks myriad health trends, including drug overdose deaths."...(more)

[Wingus Dingus]

1. Absolutely nothing sinister about that!

[Jit423]

2. Does this also mean that all food contamination notices will stop also?

Will people take to the streets tomorrow or wait for some kind of health catastrophe?

[Think. Again.]

3. He is actually trying to kill us.

[sheshe2]

45. Again

Bodies of Covid-19 victims are still stored in refrigerated trucks in NYC
By Mirna Alsharif and Ray Sanchez, CNN
Fri May 7, 2021
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/07/us/new-york-coronavirus-victims-refrigerated-trucks/index.html

I guess he did not kill enough of us on his first attempt.

[Blue_Tires]

66. He literally gets off on it

I keep telling y'all Trumpism is a death cult...

[newdeal2]

4. We won't be able to trust anything these agencies say

Facts and data will have to conform to Trump’s views.

[Blues Heron]

5. Including the COVID tracker no doubt. We will have to rely on a hodgepodge of state sites going forward

[hatrack]

6. But not from any states south of the Mason-Dixon line . . .

Because Freedumb.

[dweller]

7. Clearing the way

For the next pandemic … he can plead ignorance of all matters health related . Ironic since he’s an ignoramus to begin with .
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[mucifer]

8. I really believe putin knows lots of people from the USA will die this way and trump owes him.

[durablend]

10. The oligarchs have no use for any of us anymore

The only goal is to pillage whatever money there is and burn the place to the ground.

[unblock]

9. I'd say this is his first impeachable offense this term, but some of his executive orders ...

[likesmountains 52]

11. Can he actually do this?

[yardwork]

13. Yes. The health agencies roll up to a cabinet position.

He's taking the U.S. back 150 years in terms of public health. I never thought I'd live to see this.

[likesmountains 52]

15. Two days in, and I'm already losing my mind. Worse than I ever imagined...

[dalton99a]

12. Kick

[FirstLight]

14. There can't be another pandemic if they don't make reports...

That sounds about right up his alley...
Unfortunately, he "learned a lesson" from COVID...I know, like he could learn anything, right? well somehow the plan stuck in his mind.

So just be aware, we're on our own for the Bid Flu thing...unless these scientists find a way to get the word out ....

[Irish_Dem]

16. Trump wants all federal public communications approved by him.

Or his office.

This is how China and Russia do it.

[BadgerKid]

17. Department of News Censorship enters the chat.

[Mountainguy]

18. Those are public records

the lawsuits are going to start piling up.

[Tanuki]

19. RFK's henchwoman:

"Stefanie Spear, an HHS deputy chief of staff, instructed agency staff Tuesday morning to pause external communications, according to two people familiar with the discussions. Spear, who joined HHS this week, is a longtime ally of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., President Donald Trump’s pick to lead the agency.

Spear did not immediately respond to a request for comment. HHS did not respond to a request for comment. An FDA spokesperson declined to comment and referred questions to HHS. A CDC spokesperson referred questions to HHS."...(more)

[Cha]

50. I thought that Mump was doing all this

for Bob RF jr.

[Ms. Toad]

20. Time for a bunch of FOIA requests. n/t

[yellow dahlia]

32. Next - he'll get rid of FOIA.

Last edited Wed Jan 22, 2025, 01:05 AM - Edit history (1)

[Ms. Toad]

38. Probably. n/t

[yellow dahlia]

49. Didn't even notice the typo at first - fixed it.

But you understood what I meant anyway.

[defacto7]

21. We need to follow non US health sources.

We need to find out where and what can be gathered and fly by the seat of out pants. IOW protect our own individual asses. OUR government won't be there.

[CaptainTruth]

22. Correction: He thinks he has.

Reality is complicated, & messy.

[HereForTheParty]

23. People will die

nm

[orangecrush]

24. He's going to kill us

[patphil]

25. He's ordered them not to do their jobs. That's one step away from defunding these crutial agencies.

This could kill huge numbers of people over time.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

27. My concern is that he will also order the destruction of all

records in all agencies. I would not be surprised if he ordered fabrication of records to represent whatever "truth" he wants presented to to replace anything reflecting poorly on him.

I really do fear this.

[angrychair]

36. Against the law

These agencies have public reporting and record retention requirements that are mandated by law.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

40. Trump is above the law.

As, likely, are those who carry out his unlawful orders. At least according to Andrew Weissmann & Mary McCord, lawyers & law professors

[Nululu]

28. 2.0 more deaths

Over a million dead from his first term and continuing.

How many more dead in his second term?

So they can save on Medicare and Social Security.

[edhopper]

29. The idea is to

Let horrible things happen and then people ask "where was the government?"
Making people distrust and no longer support government agencies.
So when they destroy them, there is little opposition.

[tishaLA]

30. e coli. here we come!

some of his ridiculousness is totally predictable. And then there's this.

[kacekwl]

31. Can't they just ignore

his stupid commands ? These people know what's what. Just go about your business. He's too stupid to know or care.

[angrychair]

33. This isn't legal

There are hundreds of reporting requirements built into multiple laws. This is an unlawful order.

[Blues Heron]

43. Trump was granted immunity, this is the kind of thing they are allowing him to do. We have been given a king.

[angrychair]

56. He was

But not the acting HHS secretary giving the order. They still have to follow the law.

[lapfog_1]

57. they will be granted pardons

which aren't really needed right away because... who the fuck is going to prosecute them? Pam Bondi?

[angrychair]

60. If the DOJ

just blatantly ignores the law and refuses to enforce it that will get attention they don't want.
While I agree that could just slow walk, they can't just ignore it. The initial round of cabinet people TSF had several bad apples like Ryan Zinke who were, eventually, fired for their corruption.

I agree, it's a shit show but everything has its limits of what will be tolerated.

[Think. Again.]

61. Slow-walking worked for the DOJ these past 4 years.

[GoYouPackersGo]

34. The (brain) worm has turned...

This has Bob Jr's fingerprints all over it.

Next they will replace all CDC advisories with podcasts from that goddamned loon the "Medical Medium."

[LudwigPastorius]

35. The thing about disease is, if we just stop testing and reporting, we'd have fewer cases of it.

https://www.voanews.com/a/covid-19-pandemic_trump-if-we-stop-testing-wed-have-fewer-cases/6191165.html

[Dem2theMax]

37. Imagine we're in a pandemic at all times.

Whether we are or not.

Do whatever you have to do to keep yourselves healthy. Masks. Wash hands, hand sanitizer. If you can, avoid large crowds. If you can, grow as much of your own food as possible. Even a small amount will help. Find neighbors and family who think the same way, and share.

It's not a fun way to live, but staying healthy is one of the things we need to do to be able to fight the fight.

And get any information you can, from Canada and the UK. Possibly even Mexico.

[Baron2024]

39. Can State Health Departments?

Can State Health Departments coordinate with each other and pick up the slack?

[moondust]

41. Slow genocide.

[bmichaelh]

42. Trump almost endangered my health in the first term

Trump almost endangered my health in the first term

He tried to repeal ACA in 2017 but he failed.
Hope the majority in Congress is not large enough for him to try it again.

In 1990, I was diagnosed with lymphoma.
It returned in 2019; I went through 4 different treatments over 2 years; all failed.
ACA provides me protection against lifetime limits.

Every time, lymphoma returns it gets more aggressive and more resistant to prior treatments.
This time, when it returned it was near my spinal column.
Between the third and fourth failed treatments, my mobility had declined that I needed the use of a walker.

The fifth treatment was a success and I was able to achieve my third remission.
I was able to ditch the walker.
If not for this fifth treatment, paralysis was a strong possibility.

I am currently undergoing maintenance treatments that my insurance pays for in part; they cost $1 million/year.
If he tries to repeal ACA again; these treatments may stop and my lymphoma could return.

[Bluethroughu]

46. If he wasn't immune immune immune in his official duties

This would be a coup against the people of this country deliberately putting them at risk to health security terrorism!

He is unhinged and should be removed from office immediately.

[iemanja]

47. He knows COVID lost him the last election

So he plans to cover up all future pandemics, including bird flu.

[Puppyjive]

48. He has no power over the press

He thinks he does, but he doesn't.

[niyad]

52. You do realize who does control the press, yes?

[OAITW r.2.0]

51. He's trying to kill us. Is this OK?

[orangecrush]

64. Exactly

And no, it's not ok.

I'm sure McMedia will be expressing outrage.

[Initech]

53. He is going fucking mad with power.

[Hassler]

54. The next public health event is all on Scump

[IcyPeas]

55. And all the other republicans are just fine with this?

[scipan]

59. This is worth protesting. What about products recalled?

That happens pretty often.

FOIA. CDC flu, etc alerts.

Not sure at all if this is legal.

[sinkingfeeling]

62. Next pandemic, come on down! Americans will never know what hit 'em.

[allegorical oracle]

63. That's what DeSantis did during COVID with our Health Dept. We're being treated like

mushrooms -- kept in the dark and fed bullshit. Not good.

[mainer]

65. Alt CDC is on bluesky

In case you need infectious disease alerts when H5N1 sweeps the country.

[Blue_Tires]

67. Totally non-dictator behavior...