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dalton99a

(91,647 posts)
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 08:58 AM Jan 2025

Trump launches savage attack on bishop who asked for 'mercy' for minorities

https://www.politico.eu/article/donld-trump-launches-savage-attack-on-bishop-mariann-budde-who-asked-for-mercy-for-minorities-lgbtq-immigrants/

Trump launches savage attack on bishop who asked for ‘mercy’ for minorities
U.S. president calls the clergywoman a “Radical Left hard line Trump hater,” “ungracious,” “nasty” and “not compelling or smart.”
January 22, 2025 11:35 am CET
By Seb Starcevic

U.S. President Donald Trump hit out Wednesday at a bishop who directly called on him to show mercy to immigrants and LGBTQ+ people.

During the inaugural prayer service Tuesday at the Washington National Cathedral attended by Trump, Vice President JD Vance and their families, the Right Rev Mariann Budde delivered a sermon in which she appealed to Trump to be merciful to minorities, “some who fear for their lives.”

“In the name of our God, I ask you to have mercy on the people in our country who are scared now,” Budde said, referring to “gay, lesbian and transgender children in Democratic, Republican and independent families.”

Most “immigrants are not criminals,” she added. “They pay taxes and are good neighbors.”

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Trump launches savage attack on bishop who asked for 'mercy' for minorities (Original Post) dalton99a Jan 2025 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author AkFemDem Jan 2025 #1
Trump is just hoping someone will do her harm. NotHardly Jan 2025 #63
"Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?" It's called plausible deniability. flashman13 Jan 2025 #68
As you mentioned, see also: definition for "stochastic terrorism". keep_left Jan 2025 #72
I'm a discordian/agnostic... but I think I might call myself an Episcopalian for a while ck4829 Jan 2025 #2
Mercy is for suckers. Swede Jan 2025 #3
Don't forget losers too.... Butterflylady Jan 2025 #32
"A nasty woman." Kid Berwyn Jan 2025 #4
That word "nasty" PatSeg Jan 2025 #50
Me neither, PatSeg. Heard him call men he fears or who've hurt him, a "disgrace." Kid Berwyn Jan 2025 #56
That seems to be one of donald's favorite go-to words. calimary Jan 2025 #98
Yes, I can hear his mother's voice PatSeg Jan 2025 #99
Yep. I think you're onto something. calimary Jan 2025 #102
Yes, absolutely the worst PatSeg Jan 2025 #100
I'm going to posit this thought about how he uses the word "nasty" when targeting women in general: I would bet my last Texin Jan 2025 #76
Bingo, I think you nailed it PatSeg Jan 2025 #101
I just KNEW he was going to call her a nasty bishop JoseBalow Jan 2025 #92
Of course he did. GoCubsGo Jan 2025 #5
+1. He'll sic his Proud Boys on her dalton99a Jan 2025 #6
I thought the same thing. But the only thing holding him back would be no_hypocrisy Jan 2025 #10
"Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?" Ocelot II Jan 2025 #16
Precisely. dalton99a Jan 2025 #18
And he had someone else fire the Female Coast Guard 4 Star Admiral BOSSHOG Jan 2025 #11
+1. He loved to fire people on Twitter behind their backs dalton99a Jan 2025 #13
He has always had other people do his firing. GoCubsGo Jan 2025 #14
For all his "You're fired!" on a soundstage, he never fired anyone in his last administration face-to-face. CrispyQ Jan 2025 #80
Yup, that's what I'm saying. GoCubsGo Jan 2025 #84
Trump is proving himself to be anti-Christian. no_hypocrisy Jan 2025 #7
Maybe *the* Antichrist isn't real, but it's hard to deny the existence of *an* antichrist Ocelot II Jan 2025 #19
I'm only surprised he waited so long. Nixie Jan 2025 #8
Mike collins (r-asshole) already demanded that she be deported. niyad Jan 2025 #28
She was born in New Jersey, so she can't be deported tornado34jh Jan 2025 #75
Deported to where? SilasSouleII Jan 2025 #86
No. But mikey is an ignorant asshole. niyad Jan 2025 #88
Yes, how dare this woman speak up. What does she think? It's a free country? Walleye Jan 2025 #9
He just can't stand it when anyone, especially a woman, says anything Ocelot II Jan 2025 #12
MAGA turns on Christianity. Attacks the words of Jesus Christ delisen Jan 2025 #15
Trump is BUTT HURT by Bishop Budde! yellowcanine Jan 2025 #17
Ah, so he strikes out against someone who asked him to show mercy. LuckyCharms Jan 2025 #20
Video of that event is amazing. Camera was on The Family as it reacted to the Bishop's allegorical oracle Jan 2025 #21
I'm glad you saw it too. AloeVera Jan 2025 #25
+1. The Slovenian sex worker is just as amoral and sadistic as he is dalton99a Jan 2025 #31
Malania bromeando Jan 2025 #67
Cold as ice, wasn't it? Actually stunned me. Also standing out was the youngest daughter, Tiffany -- allegorical oracle Jan 2025 #43
+1. All evil trash. Mary is the only Trump relative who is decent. dalton99a Jan 2025 #59
Reverend Budde, by putting the teachings of Jesus in the context of the occasion Martin Eden Jan 2025 #22
And a saint to the rest of us. Worldwide. vanlassie Jan 2025 #49
Trump is a degenerate con artist Quiet Em Jan 2025 #23
In reality, DENVERPOPS Jan 2025 #65
This reminds me of what John Pavlovitz said during Christmas Martin Eden Jan 2025 #24
The bible is my favorite book kacekwl Jan 2025 #26
Jesus' words azureblue Jan 2025 #96
That's right Christian of you, Mr. Trump! /nt bucolic_frolic Jan 2025 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author 58Sunliner Jan 2025 #29
As Gawds chosen one the SlobFather knows who's naughty or nice. Or is it NoMoreRepugs Jan 2025 #30
At least he can't remove her from her position Beck23 Jan 2025 #33
Sounds like he needs butt-hurts salve. Emile Jan 2025 #34
Special Formula No. 47 will be ready for release Emile Jan 2025 #37
The Right Reverend Mariann Budde, Bishop of Washington, also niyad Jan 2025 #35
How does he have room in his brain for anything else but grudges Beringia Jan 2025 #42
I wish I knew. niyad Jan 2025 #44
He doesn't. 3catwoman3 Jan 2025 #83
The Bishop's words were respectful but to the point. She pleaded for mercy for the vulnerable. peggysue2 Jan 2025 #36
Many thought Michelle Obama was wrong for saying when they go low, we go high. She was instead spot on PortTack Jan 2025 #54
Trump 100% thinks he is king. hadEnuf Jan 2025 #62
Even Kings can be beheaded (metaphorically speaking, of course) peggysue2 Jan 2025 #66
. dalton99a Jan 2025 #71
There is nothing more important than appearing to be religious. Niccolo Machiavelli YorkRd Jan 2025 #38
+1. Hitler had fully discarded belief in Judeo-Christianity by 1937 but continued to use God in speeches dalton99a Jan 2025 #47
Pope Francis appointed Cardinal Robert McElroy in Washington DC delisen Jan 2025 #39
More proof (as if any more was needed) that proves that MAGA supporters who claim to be "christian" are totally Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #40
What a Horror Show Beringia Jan 2025 #41
I'm worried for her. StarryNite Jan 2025 #45
It would be an awful bad look for Trump if Emile Jan 2025 #89
He doesn't care how he looks. StarryNite Jan 2025 #90
Why am I reminded of Dietrich Bonhoeffer and his opposition to Hitler? Bo Zarts Jan 2025 #46
+1. And we know what happened to him dalton99a Jan 2025 #48
Also remember Niemoller.. Beck23 Jan 2025 #77
He can't fire her, but... Beck23 Jan 2025 #74
ALWAYS uses the word "nasty" when its a woman. Callie1979 Jan 2025 #51
Bishop takes pawn. n/t. Harker Jan 2025 #52
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the church. Emrys Jan 2025 #53
Grace vs. hate William769 Jan 2025 #55
There's a reason he didn't put his hand on the Bible when swearing his Oath. surfered Jan 2025 #57
Trump is anti-Christ Seinan Sensei Jan 2025 #58
Thing is ...she was very compelling...and he knows it! PortTack Jan 2025 #60
He's a fucking pig. spanone Jan 2025 #61
Most people don't understand monsters with no conscience. ananda Jan 2025 #64
She was followong Figarosmom Jan 2025 #69
The Catholic and Episcopal leadership... Beck23 Jan 2025 #78
Bishop Budde is a modern Dietrich Bonhoeffer Beck23 Jan 2025 #70
Kind of makes me hope there is an afterlife Grammy23 Jan 2025 #73
Watching Mariann Budde was as gratifying as seeing the photo of Nancy Pelosi scolding Trump. Both of these LaMouffette Jan 2025 #79
They were all utterly humiliated by that Bishop. Klarkashton Jan 2025 #81
My reply to MAGA comments attacking the Bishop on a couple of wingnut tabloids: UTUSN Jan 2025 #82
In the Episcopal Church, one of the baptismal vows is to "respect the dignity of every human being" . . . markpkessinger Jan 2025 #95
MaddowBlog-Following sermon, Trump and his allies target Episcopal bishop LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2025 #85
That's what the Antichrist would do, right after not swearing the oath on the Bible Wingus Dingus Jan 2025 #87
I stand with her LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2025 #91
So proud bernieb Jan 2025 #93
here from George Carlin twodogsbarking Jan 2025 #94
What a petty, little tyrant. iemanja Jan 2025 #97
Wonder if Pope Francis is watching this. Hope he speaks out. IzzaNuDay Jan 2025 #103

Response to dalton99a (Original post)

flashman13

(1,905 posts)
68. "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?" It's called plausible deniability.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 11:40 AM
Jan 2025

Four knights of Henry II household murdered Beckett in Canterbury Cathedral. It's really stochastic terrorism.

keep_left

(3,134 posts)
72. As you mentioned, see also: definition for "stochastic terrorism".
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 11:47 AM
Jan 2025

Here are some links from the past few years.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218378320#post6

This mentality has polluted the airwaves for 40 years now with increasing stridency and progressively less and less deniability. Some of the "hot talk" shock jocks (starting with the execrable Michael Savage, IMO) have been calling for blood for years, barely concealed behind eliminationist rhetoric. And now online, we have the worst of the worst: OAN, NewsMax, RSBN, PraegerU, ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_terrorism
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2011/1/10/934890/-
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/10/25/1807187/-DailyKos-member-s-term-stochastic-terrorism-enters-the-Mainstream-Lexicon-in-timely-fashion

ck4829

(37,321 posts)
2. I'm a discordian/agnostic... but I think I might call myself an Episcopalian for a while
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 09:02 AM
Jan 2025

I'm also going to turn this into a thread of its own, I have something that needs to be said.

Kid Berwyn

(22,609 posts)
4. "A nasty woman."
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 09:08 AM
Jan 2025

A nasty Bishop.

And the world’s plutocrats who foisted a moronic, insane NAZI traitor on America to destroy democracy think anything’s perfect.

PatSeg

(51,771 posts)
50. That word "nasty"
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:43 AM
Jan 2025

sums up how Trump feels about women in general. I don't think I've ever heard him use it for a man.

Kid Berwyn

(22,609 posts)
56. Me neither, PatSeg. Heard him call men he fears or who've hurt him, a "disgrace."
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:52 AM
Jan 2025

Disgrace must be what his parents called him growing up.

Today, his fractured ego and tiny mushroom of an id prevent him from cross-pollinating his go-to insults.

History will remember his as the worst thing to happen to the United States of America.

Personally, we know he's the culmination of all the worst things since Prescott Bush and his co-conspirators worked to overthrow FDR.

calimary

(88,752 posts)
98. That seems to be one of donald's favorite go-to words.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 10:00 AM
Jan 2025

“Disgrace”. He clings to it like a drowning man to a life preserver.

Very shallow guy. But cunning.

PatSeg

(51,771 posts)
99. Yes, I can hear his mother's voice
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 09:38 AM
Jan 2025

telling him he's "a disgrace" repeatedly throughout his childhood. Maybe it was his father, but somehow it sounds more like his mother to me.

So many things that he says repeatedly are obviously from his childhood. The man is such an open book, it is uncanny how he fooled tens of millions of people.

PatSeg

(51,771 posts)
100. Yes, absolutely the worst
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 09:42 AM
Jan 2025

In his case "disgrace" is an understatement. An abomination would be more appropriate.

Texin

(2,824 posts)
76. I'm going to posit this thought about how he uses the word "nasty" when targeting women in general: I would bet my last
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 11:51 AM
Jan 2025

dime that he heard that description of an act as "nasty" by his mother about some or many of the things he himself was doing to elicit them throughout his (eternal) childhood.

JoseBalow

(9,061 posts)
92. I just KNEW he was going to call her a nasty bishop
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 02:04 PM
Jan 2025

Such a predictable, petty, and pathetic little clown.

GoCubsGo

(34,610 posts)
5. Of course he did.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 09:08 AM
Jan 2025

You'll notice that gutless bag of shit didn't have the courage to say that shit to her face when he had the chance. He waited to spew his vomit on his social media, like the lily-livered coward that he is. Now, he'll go hide behind the thugs he just pardoned, because that's what chickenshit bullies do..

no_hypocrisy

(54,047 posts)
10. I thought the same thing. But the only thing holding him back would be
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 09:12 AM
Jan 2025

someone would tell him if she were harmed, it would make her a martyr and reduce his influence.

BOSSHOG

(44,442 posts)
11. And he had someone else fire the Female Coast Guard 4 Star Admiral
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 09:13 AM
Jan 2025

Who has done exemplary job. Trump is a woman abuser in absentia. You are spot on my friend. Trump, coward in chief.

GoCubsGo

(34,610 posts)
14. He has always had other people do his firing.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 09:18 AM
Jan 2025

Even the decisions made on his idiotic game show were made by the producers. He just spewed the "You're fired!" line for them.

CrispyQ

(40,565 posts)
80. For all his "You're fired!" on a soundstage, he never fired anyone in his last administration face-to-face.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 11:58 AM
Jan 2025

IIRC, he even had his bodyguard leave a note on someone's desk that they were fired.

They guy is such a fake. I waver between disgust & embarrassment for the people I know who voted for this piece of shit.

GoCubsGo

(34,610 posts)
84. Yup, that's what I'm saying.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 12:12 PM
Jan 2025

He's full of shit. Any embarrassment ever felt for his voters was gone by the end of the first day of his first term. Now, I have nothing but pure disgust for them.

no_hypocrisy

(54,047 posts)
7. Trump is proving himself to be anti-Christian.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 09:10 AM
Jan 2025

I think he actually hates real Christians. The ones who follow the teachings of Jesus. Trump is the descendent of the Philistines who called for Jesus to be murdered in the name of protecting The People.

First, he didn't even try to pretend when he didn't even hover his hand over The Bible when he took his Oath of Office. His hand, wrist, and arm were hanging down by his side. Hey Donald! Did Satan tell you to do that?

Then he scowled at Rev Mariann Budde during her entreaties from The Pulpit. After the church service, he insulted her. Didn't say he didn't agree with everything. He denounced her and her brand of Christianity and the social justice that goes with it.

And overnight, Trump didn't hold back on his animosity and hatred towards Rev Budde. He hates her courage and integrity. If he could send some newly-released Proud Boys to visit her, he would.

Not only does this reveal Trump's false character as the "Defender of the Faith," but it also shows the religious hypocrisy of the power-hungry evangelical Christians. Namely Franklin Graham.

Ocelot II

(128,706 posts)
19. Maybe *the* Antichrist isn't real, but it's hard to deny the existence of *an* antichrist
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 09:27 AM
Jan 2025

when you see one in action on live TV.

tornado34jh

(1,516 posts)
75. She was born in New Jersey, so she can't be deported
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 11:50 AM
Jan 2025

By his logic, if he wants to do go that route, maybe we should deport him, no more high road anymore. I'm tired of their hypocrisy.

Ocelot II

(128,706 posts)
12. He just can't stand it when anyone, especially a woman, says anything
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 09:15 AM
Jan 2025

suggesting the sun doesn't shine out his fat orange ass. She didn't insult him or berate him; she just asked him in the name of God to show mercy to groups of people who were being harmed by government action. His response shows us once again that he's a horrible person. In fact, if the Antichrist were a real thing, he'd be a strong candidate for that position. I'm surprised he didn't leave scorch marks where he was sitting.

I'm a lapsed Episcopalian and I might start going to church again.

delisen

(7,186 posts)
15. MAGA turns on Christianity. Attacks the words of Jesus Christ
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 09:24 AM
Jan 2025

Who among the monied evangelicals will join him in the attack ?

LuckyCharms

(21,301 posts)
20. Ah, so he strikes out against someone who asked him to show mercy.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 09:31 AM
Jan 2025

That's all she did...asked him to show mercy.

And his little feelings couldn't couldn't handle that simple request.

allegorical oracle

(6,107 posts)
21. Video of that event is amazing. Camera was on The Family as it reacted to the Bishop's
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 09:31 AM
Jan 2025

words. Lots of smirks and eye rolling. But if looks could kill, Melaria murdered the Bishop. Have never seen anyone look so mean. Hope Budde keeps her job.

AloeVera

(3,936 posts)
25. I'm glad you saw it too.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:04 AM
Jan 2025

The range of "emotions" on faces was a sight to behold. From utter blankness and indifference, to the angry contempt of Vance, to the smiling evil smirk on Melania. I don't use the word evil lightly but what I saw on her face just froze me. She could not contain her glee or disdain. Never want to look at that face again.

allegorical oracle

(6,107 posts)
43. Cold as ice, wasn't it? Actually stunned me. Also standing out was the youngest daughter, Tiffany --
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:32 AM
Jan 2025

she looked as if she wanted to laugh, but stifled it and just rolled her eyes. The family reminds me of a nest of snakes.

Martin Eden

(15,269 posts)
22. Reverend Budde, by putting the teachings of Jesus in the context of the occasion
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 09:33 AM
Jan 2025

Will now be a villain in the eyes of "Christians" who voted for Trump.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
65. In reality,
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 11:01 AM
Jan 2025

a malignant narcissist, who is also a true psychopath, as well as a sadist......

The perfect trifecta of a horrid sub-human organism...........

Martin Eden

(15,269 posts)
24. This reminds me of what John Pavlovitz said during Christmas
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 09:38 AM
Jan 2025
If you're celebrating the mass deportations of distraught, exhausted human beings seeking refuge, you probably shouldn't be singing Christmas songs about s baby "with no crib for a bed."

azureblue

(2,642 posts)
96. Jesus' words
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:35 PM
Jan 2025

Matthew 25: 41 - 46, the very words of Jesus:
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Response to dalton99a (Original post)

NoMoreRepugs

(11,765 posts)
30. As Gawds chosen one the SlobFather knows who's naughty or nice. Or is it
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:18 AM
Jan 2025

ignorant or smart?

Beck23

(405 posts)
33. At least he can't remove her from her position
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:21 AM
Jan 2025

.. like he did (like Hegseth did) the head of the Coast Guard.

niyad

(129,183 posts)
35. The Right Reverend Mariann Budde, Bishop of Washington, also
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:22 AM
Jan 2025

criticized him in 2020 for that disgusting bible photo op. He has been holding a grudge for a long time.

peggysue2

(12,361 posts)
36. The Bishop's words were respectful but to the point. She pleaded for mercy for the vulnerable.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:24 AM
Jan 2025

Trump's response was the same as always: petty and ignorant because he's a thin-skinned man-baby, unable to handle any criticism. His ego cannot permit a single word against him.

Truth to Power.

Keep it going!

In fact, I would like to see many more religious leaders: pastors, ministers, priests, clergy of every sort to join Bishop Budde in publicly renouncing Trump and his vile hatred. That would be music to the ears. Better late than never.

PortTack

(35,810 posts)
54. Many thought Michelle Obama was wrong for saying when they go low, we go high. She was instead spot on
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:51 AM
Jan 2025

She wasn’t talking about sitting silently, or smiling and saying it’s okay to those that wish to end our democracy and cause pain and suffering…she was talking about this. These kinds of words and actions placed at just the right time and the right place that make a huge difference.

This is the high road. 47…so mad because it’s the truth, he knows it and he knows it resonated with the American ppl.

peggysue2

(12,361 posts)
66. Even Kings can be beheaded (metaphorically speaking, of course)
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 11:10 AM
Jan 2025

Think Charles I (his beheading was all too real) as was Louis XVI's.

Tyrants have their moment in the sun. Until they don't.

We need to keep the shade machine in full gear.

YorkRd

(429 posts)
38. There is nothing more important than appearing to be religious. Niccolo Machiavelli
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:24 AM
Jan 2025

Trump wouldn’t put his hand on the Bible and now him and his billionaire buddies engaging in sickening Christian cosplay

delisen

(7,186 posts)
39. Pope Francis appointed Cardinal Robert McElroy in Washington DC
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:25 AM
Jan 2025

McElroy is an outspoken defender of migrants

Hopefully the Episcopal and Catholic Church will be on the same page in upholding the words of Jesus Christ in Luke 10:25-37 and elsewhere in the New Testament .

Wiz Imp

(8,542 posts)
40. More proof (as if any more was needed) that proves that MAGA supporters who claim to be "christian" are totally
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:27 AM
Jan 2025

full of shit. There is nothing remotely Christian in their thoughts and actions. They follow the exact opposite of the teachings of Jesus Christ. These people need to be called out on this hypocrisy every single day.

StarryNite

(11,947 posts)
45. I'm worried for her.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:33 AM
Jan 2025

Particularly since he just released his flying monkeys who now know they can do anything and not be held accountable as long as it's for their felon leader.

StarryNite

(11,947 posts)
90. He doesn't care how he looks.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 01:02 PM
Jan 2025

The insurrection was a bad look for him too but yet here we are.

Bo Zarts

(26,232 posts)
46. Why am I reminded of Dietrich Bonhoeffer and his opposition to Hitler?
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:34 AM
Jan 2025

Why does Nazism seem to be a common denominator in most things Thumpian nowadays? Why is yet another woman, this time one speaking truth to power, again called "nasty" by Trump?

Three questions to which, I think, we all know the answers.

Emrys

(8,890 posts)
53. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the church.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:51 AM
Jan 2025

And take that poxy autographed sacreligious abomination of a Bible with you.

Grammy23

(6,082 posts)
73. Kind of makes me hope there is an afterlife
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 11:47 AM
Jan 2025

Where tRump will get to face the consequences that he can’t buy off or scare away. I’d pay money to see HIM beg for mercy and watch his face as he gets back what he dealt out to others. No soup for you, ya asshat!

LaMouffette

(2,562 posts)
79. Watching Mariann Budde was as gratifying as seeing the photo of Nancy Pelosi scolding Trump. Both of these
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 11:56 AM
Jan 2025

women tower over that puny, weak, petty loser. Two incredibly brave and righteous women!

The look on Trump's face was priceless.

Klarkashton

(4,600 posts)
81. They were all utterly humiliated by that Bishop.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 12:01 PM
Jan 2025

They didn't see it coming and that makes it extra humiliating.

UTUSN

(76,562 posts)
82. My reply to MAGA comments attacking the Bishop on a couple of wingnut tabloids:
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 12:02 PM
Jan 2025
The bishop channeled the authentic Jesus message, totally unlike the reality show "men of God" charlatans hired at the inauguration on a MAGA version of their own DEI.





markpkessinger

(8,871 posts)
95. In the Episcopal Church, one of the baptismal vows is to "respect the dignity of every human being" . . .
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 02:39 PM
Jan 2025

. . . and every time a baptism takes place during a public service, the entire congregation reaffirms its commitment to those vows. It's something the Episcopal Church takes very seriously. In calling for compassion and mercy toward groups whose dignity Trump has not respected, and indeed has demeaned, Bp, Budde was acting in accordance with her own baptismal vows and consistent with her pastoral role as a bishop of the Episcopal Church. She has absolutely nothing to apologize for!

LetMyPeopleVote

(173,911 posts)
85. MaddowBlog-Following sermon, Trump and his allies target Episcopal bishop
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 12:31 PM
Jan 2025

Religion must be celebrated, protected and venerated, Trump apparently thinks — just so long as the faith community is telling him what he wants to hear.

Religion must be celebrated, protected, and venerated, Trump apparently thinks — just so long as the faith community is telling him what he wants to hear. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-01-22T15:40:00.109Z




Donald Trump is not often forced to listen to those who disagree with him, and when the newly inaugurated president is confronted with his critics, he tends to unravel. The Republican’s debate meltdowns, for example, have become the stuff of legend......

Hours later, shortly after midnight, the president abandoned subtlety and published a far more forceful rebuke to his social media platform. It read in its entirety:

The so-called Bishop who spoke at the National Prayer Service on Tuesday morning was a Radical Left hard line Trump hater. She brought her church into the World of politics in a very ungracious way. She was nasty in tone, and not compelling or smart. She failed to mention the large number of illegal migrants that came into our Country and killed people. Many were deposited from jails and mental institutions. It is a giant crime wave that is taking place in the USA. Apart from her inappropriate statements, the service was a very boring and uninspiring one. She is not very good at her job! She and her church owe the public an apology!


There’s no point in fact-checking every error of fact and judgment in the president’s online harangue. The Rev. Edgar Budde is not a “so-called” bishop; there is no “giant crime wave”; Trump’s line about “mental institutions” has long been ridiculous, etc.....

Take a moment to imagine what would happen if a progressive House Democrat called for an American religious leader to be kicked out of the country for delivering a sermon he or she disagreed with.

What’s more, whether Republicans appreciate this or not, the more they whined about the bishop’s sermon, the more likely it became that the public would hear what Budde had to say. The Streisand Effect is, after all, a real phenomenon.

Let’s also not forget that for many congressional Republicans, including House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan, there was a Biden-era “scandal” about officials targeting and harassing religious leaders. It was nonsense, of course, though it’s hard not to notice that these same GOP leaders have far less to say about their allies targeting Budde......

The post-inaugural national prayer service, however, shed light on the limits of the president’s approach: Religion must be celebrated, protected, respected and venerated, Trump apparently thinks — just so long as the faith community is telling him what he wants to hear.

bernieb

(96 posts)
93. So proud
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 02:14 PM
Jan 2025

I'm a practicing Episcopalian. I'm so proud one of my bishops had the courage to speak out when she had him as a captive audience. He can savage her, but many of the church will stand behind her. I hope priests all over America take her lead and do the same thing from the pulpit.

twodogsbarking

(17,334 posts)
94. here from George Carlin
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 02:27 PM
Jan 2025

When you're born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America, you get a front row seat.

IzzaNuDay

(1,208 posts)
103. Wonder if Pope Francis is watching this. Hope he speaks out.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 12:50 PM
Jan 2025

Sometimes he may speak up on this. Yeah, he’s Catholic, but he probably would have said the same thing to the dotard.

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