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[Frank D. Lincoln]

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[Aviation Pro]

1. Also, learn to small batch farm

.....

[MustLoveBeagles]

2. K&R

[William769]

3. Living in S.W. Florida because of hurricanes

I am always stocked. I am also very good at rotating my stockpile.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

6. Good for you.

I hope DUers follow your good example.

[calimary]

20. Smart! In MANY ways.

[GoneOffShore]

4. Also back up your important documents to flash drives. Don't trust the cloud.

[TommyT139]

9. So important!

I'm surprised we don't hear this more.

Besides power failures occurring, Trump is able to turn off the internet as part of his emergency powers. You think he wouldn't do that?

That's apart from who "owns" the data in the cloud -- Apple is (was?) being sued as a class action in CA because people got hacked and so Apple cancelled their Apple IDs. You cannot access your data, and there is no recourse. (Trust me. Too bad my state isn't in the lawsuit.)

[MissB]

5. I've been adding to my existing deep pantry since Nov 6

I don't buy a lot of canned foods, but I do buy some. I tried to predict which of those might be affected by tariffs and then bought as much as I thought I'd use in the next two plus years, depending on expiration dates.

I already keep lots of lentils, beans, pasta, oats, flour, sugar etc etc on hand. My deep pantry is my basement cold storage room, and I use mason jars (quart or half gallon) to vacuum seal the dry goods. I don't usually buy canned beans, but I do buy lots of different dry beans! I use an instant pot to pressure cook them (most all but white beans take about 35 minutes from dry, unsoaked beans to ready-to-eat).

If you garden, make sure you get your seeds sooner than later. I think a lot of folks are going to try gardening again this year, kind of like 2020.

If you do any sort of canning, make sure you have plenty of new lids. My guess is that folks will try that too.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

8. Sounds good. Also, good suggestions. nt

[Mike 03]

37. Good for you! It's a bit of a surprise to me that more people didn't

prep BEFORE the election. That is actually when I expected a lot of trouble.

Fortunately, nothing happened. But we still face an array of onerous possibilities.

[MissB]

41. I already had a year supply of most items

I just beefed up my supply after the election, anticipating issues of some sort, whether civil unrest, availability of items or skyrocketing prices.

I think in general most folks don’t “prep” extra food. Lack of $, lack of space, lack of knowledge of how to cook basic foods- your choice. I’m sympathetic to all.

[Hassler]

69. Great reminders. Channeling 2020 has to be a priority.

Got my garden, but didn't think about seeds other than the ones I dried from last year

[Keepthesoulalive]

7. If you can stock up on chicken

Powdered eggs and spices. We’re in for a very bumpy ride.

[StarryNite]

19. Penzeys spices!

[EverHopeful]

49. Can you recommended a good brand of powdered eggs?

The ones I've used in the past are no longer available and reviews I've read of available ones don't sound promising.

Z Natural Foods brand were great for baking and for nice scrambled eggs but they don't seem to offer them anymore.

[Keepthesoulalive]

60. I normally freeze eggbeaters in case of an emergency

Amazon has the best stock of dried eggs , I would look at the reviews and if possible buy locally.
Hope this helps.

[EverHopeful]

66. Thank you.

Thought I'd replied but it didn't show up. Will try the eggbeaters.

[Climate Crusader]

10. We're adding chickens to the fall in the spring.

And doubling the size of the garden.

[MissB]

11. I wish I could make my garden bigger!

But it'll have to be big enough! I use raised beds, and I have room enough for 11 in my fenced garden along with six smaller ones outside of the garden area. The dogs keep the deer away; haven't seen any in my yard for years (whole property is fenced, and the garden has its own deer fence just in case.)

I did add 10 chick last spring, always a hoot to raise them! I went with olive eggers for about half of those 10, and they are the only ones that took a break this winter on egg laying. The other 5 are still laying. Lovely green eggs on the olive eggers but I may not go with them again. I love their fluffy cheeks though.

[Climate Crusader]

75. They do have actual personalities.

[LiberalArkie]

12. Me, I plan on just dying.. I am 77 and am ready to move on.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

13. I'm sorry, my friend. I wish you well. nt

[58Sunliner]

15. I plan to outlive the mf'er. I know it's a difficult time.

[prodigitalson]

61. If I dont find out about DT's death until I read bout it in the one year anniversay eddition of some paper

that would be a noteworth psychological victory - especially given his need to be thought about all the time, even by his enemies.

[58Sunliner]

63. Amen.

[Bird Lady]

48. I'm with you

I'm 73 and financially struggling, there is little or no joy in this life for me, so
I'm ready to go.

[Skittles]

79. you have value to us, Bird Lady

stay and fight with us

[Skittles]

70. sorry, no, can't let you do that LiberalArkie

WE NEED ALL THE HELP WE CAN GET - STAY AND FIGHT

[Kid Berwyn]

78. What Skittles said.

We need ya, Arkie! And we love ya!

[99MainSt]

16. Been doing this steadily

I've been following this advice for about the last ten years and don't intend to stop now. Healthy, canned foods are available and lose almost none of their original nutrition. Salt free foods are available in cans as well. I keep about three months worth.

I rotate the food, eating the oldest first. I keep about 60 gallons of treated tap water in stackable containers. Haven't had to use the water yet but who knows what might go wrong in the Trump administration.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

18. Wow, you're well-prepared. Good job! nt

[Mike 03]

35. Same.

It's almost like a muscle memory. Stuff I use every day I purchase multiples of, and since before COVID I've always tried to have at least a year of canned goods, medicine, supplements and then a lot of extra pet supplies.

(Don't forget your pets, especially if they have special needs like prescription diets, medications, etc...)

[99MainSt]

42. I'm impressed

A year's worth of comestibles and drugs takes up a lot of room. You didn't mention water but I'm guessing you've got that covered also.

[The Madcap]

17. Also, use up those gift cards

They won't be worth much in about six months.

[LisaM]

21. This is not so easy for people in small apartments.

As they are trying to cram us into increasingly dense (and expensive housing), one thing that people forget is that those of us in apartments simply don't have that storage space. We don't have basements. We don't have deep
freezes.We can't lay in large supplies of food. Many of us in cities get around for the most part without cars, so we can't do things like make Costco runs. We rely on being able to go to the grocery store several times a week to get food.

Whenever I see people who are huge proponents of density, I try to remind them of the restrictions people in dense housing live under.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

32. When I said stock up...

I didn't define a quantity.

My advice is to do the best you can given your circumstances.

Every little bit helps.

I'm sympathetic to your plight and wish you well.

[Keepthesoulalive]

59. I understand

They make very small chest freezers, put them in a room and throw a decorative cover and no one will know, bottom of a closet a couple of six packs of water, under bed canned goods. A rolling cart , coffee maker and supplies. I hope this helps.

[StarryNite]

22. I was just at the store today buying

extra canned goods. Not enough I fear.

[Mike 03]

33. It's more economical to purchase good like that by the case.

Usually 12 to 18 cans per case, and then buy multiples. (i.e., 4 cases of canned beans, 4 12-packs of tuna/mackerel/sardines).

[StarryNite]

44. True. I need to go to Costco.

[MichMan]

55. Go before the Teamsters strike starts

[StarryNite]

57. Thanks for the reminder!

[Blue_Roses]

72. When is that happening?

n/t

[MichMan]

73. Feb 1 if no agreement is reached

https://democraticunderground.com/111716580

[ananda]

23. I'm trying to figure out what our ruling oligarchs will do ..

when they realize that the country they think they are
running turns into the country they will actually try to
run and fail spectacularly when..

not only what you describe happens, but also due to
what climate change will do.

It''s going to be such a fubar mess that their lives will
also be impacted for the worse.

What will they do? Cut and run would be my best guess,
but who the hell knows?

[FakeNoose]

26. We already know the Repukes cannot govern or lead

All they can do is take from the rest of us because they think we aren't watching. They think we're weak.
We'll survive this, and many of them won't.

[ananda]

58. Some will survive, but many won't.

What I think will happen is that government will
completely fail, and no Republican will be able
to fix it.

Why I think Republicans will cut and run is that
it seems possible that they will want to find
some decent place to live, if one still exists
anywhere...

which I am doubtful about, really. I have read
enough about climate change to get some kind
of idea about how bad it will get.

[Harker]

24. Good advice.

I'm stocking up as though for an unnatural disaster.

[AKwannabe]

25. Never hurts to learn to forage in your area too

Most states have listings of edible plants indigenous to the region.
Fishing/hunting are also important

[Bernardo de La Paz]

28. If everyone foraged in their area, the ecosystems would be hurt. Dire emergency tactic only, please. . . . nt

[Linda ladeewolf]

27. I'm building a shed in the

Spring to house a small flock of chickens and a good sized chicken yard. I already bought the shed. Also putting in a garden and getting ready to start an indoor green house for greens. I’m clearing out the rest of my forsythia to get the paw paws going and looking for some apple trees. I also ordered a selection of heirloom seeds that come in large sizes so I can grow non-gmo vegetables. We had to have our septic system redone and the guy driving the digger very kindly destroyed our forsythia. I was so glad to get it out of there. I’ve been trying to dig it out for years. They were sorry that it cost us so much for the septic system so they did a couple of little things that helped, like installing the heaters on the water lines and putting in tall access hatches. I’m wanting to get portable solar panels too, the kind that have built in systems for emergencies.

I’ve already been stocking up on food. Toilet paper, masks and other medical supplies.

[SilasSouleII]

50. Buy a $40 bidet toilet seat attachment

You wont ever worry about having enough toilet paper again. Life changing.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Brondell-Easyspa-Bidet-Attachment-with-Ergonomic-Controls-and-Dual-Nozzles/5014645287

[prodigitalson]

29. I'm just making a detailed satellite map of MAGA end times preppers' compounds

for educational purposes

[reACTIONary]

30. could you share that? Asking....

... for a friend.

[Mike 03]

31. Yeah, very good.

This kind of preparation has been discussed here for a very long time. I sincerely hope people took it to heart and did it prior to the inauguration, or for really assertive people prior to the election, since another good idea is to curb discretionary spending while Trump is in office. Now we have two contradictory ideas: Go out and buy a lot of stuff/Stop spending money you don't have to spend once Trump is inaugurated.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

38. Canned goods and bottled water aren't that expensive--yet.

People have mentioned some other good ideas in this thread to help prepare as well.

People are going to need food no matter what.

Better to get as much as you can now just in case food prices become almost unsustainable.

I realize our circumstances are different and we can't all prepare the same way and to the same extent.

We can still push back against the oligarchy by becoming more frugal regarding the innumerable non-essential items.

[MissB]

39. I see food as necessary

As opposed to buying cheap Chinese stuff at Amazon or Temu.

[homegirl]

34. Stock up...

100 lb sack of rice
100 lb. sack of beans
stored in small metal garbage cans.

If you have space a root vegetable garden and any other produce you have space for. Potatoes can be grown in a barrel.
Again, if you have space and cooperating neighbors-chickens and maybe even pigs.

Learn to make bread- maybe a large metal garbage can to store flour!

[Frank D. Lincoln]

40. Great advice! nt

[TexasTowelie]

80. Most likely that would be a breeding ground for weevils. nt

[Frank D. Lincoln]

81. Oh. I didn't know that. Thanks for that information. nt

[YoshidaYui]

36. I stocked up on a year's worth of Japanese rice

Enough sushi rice to last a year! I hope my rice cooker remains in good working condition!

[Ohioboy]

43. It can't hurt to be prepared

[MiHale]

45. Started right after his first time in...

Proper prepping takes a little time. We have multiple gardens we grow and store a lot of our own food. Not raising any livestock currently experimenting on using beans as an alternative protein source. Dried last much longer than canned so stocked up on a bunch of different varieties.
Our property is overrun by rabbits so I was thinking of trapping again and either canning or smoking the meat.
Stopped fishing a few years ago to devote more time to our little homestead…that’s another great food source.

[Topomi]

46. Bidets

Save toilet paper, dingle berries etc about $30 at Wal-Mart easy install a large pair of pliers did mine. Most anyone handy can install. Little storage tank on it so water isn't ice cold

[Vinca]

47. Where does toilet paper come from? Anyone know? Canada mills most of our lumber and

ships it back. I assume toilet paper must be from some byproduct of that milling. Never in a million years did I think we would be thinking like survivalists again. Good idea to stock up and plan a garden if you have a place for one.

[mnhtnbb]

51. Most TP is made in the US

but a product from Brazil is used to soften it.

Good Question: Is most of our toilet paper made in the United States? https://search.app/p4za5hNhsanpxirWA

[hamsterjill]

52. Wise counsel.

Never a bad thing to do and particularly relevant in the times we are living in now.

[wendyb-NC]

53. I've started doing that

It's a good idea. Who knows what's around the pike, with all the malevolence tsf, unleashed with his executive orders?

[Lunabell]

54. I have already started.

Lots of shelf stable food and canned goods.

[SWBTATTReg]

56. Hey, I'd like to think that a lot of us DUers already do some sort of storing for a rainy day, just in case things go to

hell due to the idiot's actions.

Always better to have stuff saved up, and be prepared, just in case, after all, we did have a pandemic that the idiot ignored during his first term, thus causing it to propagate faster across the American landscape when it shouldn't have, 'it'll disappear before you know it', tRUMP said...what an absolute moron.

He is already talking about shutting down the Dept of Ed., probably the Dept of Health too (he hates the likes of Fauci, and those people who made him look like a fool before).

I personally still worry about him sending his thugs against anyone who said anything bad about him, period. Thus, I kind of watch what I say for the most part even here on DU. Scary, isn't it?

UPDATE: actions are already happening...

Rep Lieu: 75% of immigrant farm workers didn't show up yesterday in Bakersfield because of fears of ICE raids
Ted Lieu ‪@tedlieu.bsky.social
‬
Grocery prices will rise due to Republican policies.
“75% of immigrant farm workers didn’t show up yesterday in Bakersfield because of fears of ICE raids under the new presidency.”

Stupid idiot already has increased our grocery prices, now. What other areas are immigrants prevalent? Landscaping, meatpacking, ranchhands, harvesting our crops, etc.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

62. My freezer is stuffed and on the 18th I went out to stock up on non-perishables.

Needed to get more TP and a few other things. Hope it’s not too late….

[elocs]

64. I get what you're saying, but prepping is for short term disasters, not years, and that's what this could be.

I'm retired and poor, just getting by on SS and food stamps, living in an old trailer that will be lucky to last a few more years if that. I don't see this going well for me or millions of other Americans.
My European immigrant family came here near 400 years ago before America became a Democratic nation. It's sad to think that I may be of the generation where it all comes to an end.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

65. I think it's better to do something rather than nothing.

Canned goods keep for years.

You can buy them in bulk at Costco.

Someone mentioned buying 100-pound bags of beans and rice and store them in metal containers.

I think it's better to do what you can now.

Food will continue to be available at the grocery stores but the prices will likely be much higher.

The shelves might sometimes be less plentiful than what we're used to.

Hey, I'm not trying to run your life.

I'm just offering advice because I care about you (unlike Trump).

[elocs]

67. How many cans of food are needed to last even 1 person for years, how many 100 lb bags of beans or rice?

Honestly, prep is usually intended for a short term disaster of some kind, not for years. That's just the honest truth. This is not going to be a short term disaster for which I am prepared with food and water, solar batteries, a sun oven, propane heaters.

(I have a tat on my right shoulder, a large red V with blood dripping from it with "FREEDOM" over the top and "FOREVER" on the bottom from V for Vendetta. In 20ll I took my 16 year old daughter to the 100,000 person protest in Madison, WI and she was dressed as V and even spoke in the capitol rotunda. I bet most people had no idea there was a girl under that costume.)

[calimary]

68. Sounds like good advice to me.

[IzzaNuDay]

71. Repeat of 2020....

we have a supply of dehydrated food bought during the shutdown. I plan to grow herbs and this year to use as seasoning. Also stocking up on dried beans— can make tofu with them. I only drink water, tea and coffee so I’m going to survive. Bought a distiller to making water for my CPAP machine when distilled water was scarce.
our freezer is full so we can shop that…

[C_U_L8R]

74. Dried beans and grains are versatile

[Keepthesoulalive]

76. Just discovered bird flu in Virginia

I went to Costco and most people don’t have a clue. The problem is with the mis management of this disease. I can’t take chances with the stooges running the country.

[stillcool]

77. I'm going to taper down

on my consumption, and stock up on canned goods. Chicken, eggs, fruit and vegetables all in my reading today. It does remind me of 'peak-oil'. Forget what year that was supposed to happen, or if it did. That and the Iranian oil bourse. Funny how the mind re-minds.

[Hekate]

82. It's been in the back of my mind to restock my pantry, but currently the fire-related power outages...

… have me tossing stuff from my freezer instead. Of course, tossing stuff from the freezer and fridge has me using some of the older canned goods anyway, so it all comes back to the same reminder.

Thanks! This is a good reminder for us all.