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Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:14 PM Jan 2025

At what point do we general strike or ALL get into the streets?

This insurrectionist has pardoned a bunch of terrorists that hate our country.

He attacked immigrants and LGBTQ.

He nullified our FDA AND CDC.

He went after Americans and birth rights.

This is an attack on the citizens of this country, and it's time for action by Congress that believes in our country and the citizens that want to do something.

I think we demand trump/vance should resign or we strike. I'm talking nothing gets done...no work, no bills paid, no shopping. Nothing. We are not a country of terrorists and insurrectionists, this is not okay. He is putting our country is at risk.

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At what point do we general strike or ALL get into the streets? (Original Post) Bluethroughu Jan 2025 OP
Waiting EarthAbides Jan 2025 #1
That's what I'm thinking. Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #4
Marching in the streets en mass makes for an easy target, too much temptation for Trump. n/t elocs Jan 2025 #32
he'll just call Martial Law Tickle Jan 2025 #2
If we even sit at home and do not pay bills, shop or work Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #6
I have to work to eat & keep a roof over my head & pay bills to keep the lights/water/cell/internet on EX500rider Jan 2025 #39
Yes, bdamomma Jan 2025 #34
I'd be in the front lines. If that reality actually happened, the stock markets, Dow and ... chouchou Jan 2025 #3
Bigger than the pandemic drop? BlueSpot Jan 2025 #36
I suspect the higher loss of money/security might change things. But, I can't see the future. chouchou Jan 2025 #38
Start organizing, then. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2025 #5
It's terrible, but the intention is to own the libs and demoralize us - up front now. Also.... themaguffin Jan 2025 #7
What is a good date to make a stand? Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #9
I don't know the answer. I do know that he's deliberately trying to shock us and that we themaguffin Jan 2025 #20
I think the end goal of the billionaires is to kill 99% of us off anyway so LiberalLoner Jan 2025 #8
Maybe, but we can at least try to live and fight for what we want. Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #11
I agree 100% LiberalLoner Jan 2025 #13
This isn't 1917 in St. Petersburg Jose Garcia Jan 2025 #10
This is the roll back of the NEW DEAL... Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #14
In the 1932 election Frasier Balzov Jan 2025 #17
We have to make it happen. Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #19
Americans Don't Care Deep State Witch Jan 2025 #12
We could make it like the Superbowl. Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #15
Focused protests, sure, any time, bit it isn't ime yet for general strikes etc Tom Rinaldo Jan 2025 #16
Thanks for the well stated opinion. Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #18
When will people sign up to lose their jobs and have their homes foreclosed? tritsofme Jan 2025 #21
If these people break our country, you'll be working, Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #22
I don't think you are going to get many takers. tritsofme Jan 2025 #24
No maybe not, but if we do not have a plan. Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #25
People can always follow their conscience and start now MichMan Jan 2025 #27
They can do that if their job, boss, pay is crappy. Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #30
This country? With our current electorate? DetroitLegalBeagle Jan 2025 #23
The problem with people these days, Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #26
When the weather is better across the nation. milestogo Jan 2025 #28
Apparently a general strike is going to be held in May 2028 LeftInTX Jan 2025 #29
That's the day their contracts with the Big 3 end Mountainguy Jan 2025 #40
IMHO - nothing like this will work, unless or until Dan Jan 2025 #31
Yeah, right now the ones feeling the pain are immigrants. They are not voters. LeftInTX Jan 2025 #35
This would be a spectacular time to not pay federal taxes! PuraVidaDreamin Jan 2025 #33
If you work for someone else, how do you stop any withholding ? MichMan Jan 2025 #41
Change your W-4. yagotme Jan 2025 #45
In the USA? In this version of the multiverse? Not a chance. nt kelly1mm Jan 2025 #37
It just won't happen here edhopper Jan 2025 #42
Does anyone know what the conditions are for striking workers to be eligible for unemployment? MichMan Jan 2025 #43
I seriously doubt that edhopper Jan 2025 #44
Effectively no FBaggins Jan 2025 #49
Summer of Love 1967 William769 Jan 2025 #46
I personally want to see people with pitchforks and torches outside Fox News HQ. Initech Jan 2025 #47
Never. That NEVER happens. The cult will never turn against him. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2025 #48

EarthAbides

(441 posts)
1. Waiting
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:19 PM
Jan 2025

I am thinking it will take at least 6 months for a strike and/or marching in the streets. Sadly, I think Stupid will be ready for us if we wait that long....

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
4. That's what I'm thinking.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:22 PM
Jan 2025

We need to strike while the iron is hot and they are no prepared for us to be organized.

How about Feb 14th! Love for country March and strike!

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
32. Marching in the streets en mass makes for an easy target, too much temptation for Trump. n/t
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 08:39 PM
Jan 2025

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
6. If we even sit at home and do not pay bills, shop or work
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:24 PM
Jan 2025

They can't hurt anyone or blame us for destruction caused by bad actors.

EX500rider

(12,474 posts)
39. I have to work to eat & keep a roof over my head & pay bills to keep the lights/water/cell/internet on
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:42 PM
Jan 2025

bdamomma

(69,503 posts)
34. Yes,
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 08:49 PM
Jan 2025

The felon would do that call Martial Law, and he's hoping we will walk into that trap.

General strike.

chouchou

(3,084 posts)
3. I'd be in the front lines. If that reality actually happened, the stock markets, Dow and ...
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:22 PM
Jan 2025

...others would take a nasty drop..and the rich and powerful would drop Trump like the Proverbial hot potato.
I can dream of such a thing..

chouchou

(3,084 posts)
38. I suspect the higher loss of money/security might change things. But, I can't see the future.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:34 PM
Jan 2025

themaguffin

(5,125 posts)
7. It's terrible, but the intention is to own the libs and demoralize us - up front now. Also....
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:25 PM
Jan 2025

...note that many things are not going to happen. They will get dragged in court.

Yes, there is real uncertainty, fear and more for a lot minority groups.

There's also the main point of him attempting saturate us with what I paraphrase as Shock and Awful.

He can't sustain it and shit will go wrong for him.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
9. What is a good date to make a stand?
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:30 PM
Jan 2025

When do we say this is enough and March, sit, or do something?

I'm not being sarcastic.

themaguffin

(5,125 posts)
20. I don't know the answer. I do know that he's deliberately trying to shock us and that we
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 04:12 PM
Jan 2025

have at least 2 years with no branch of government to deal with him.

I do know that focus has to be on winning in 2026 and being vocal with Dems in office to use whatever tools and tactics available to slow down or even stop some of this.. aka act like Mitch and the GOP.

LiberalLoner

(11,467 posts)
8. I think the end goal of the billionaires is to kill 99% of us off anyway so
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:28 PM
Jan 2025

I’m not sure they care if we don’t work or buy or get into the streets.

I think the concentration camps being built on military posts and bases will have a handy dandy gas chamber and crematorium set up and they will kill all the out groups (like us) first and then the in groups, and by then the small number of remaining “in group” people will be too small of a group to resist the billionaires and Putin’s troops.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
11. Maybe, but we can at least try to live and fight for what we want.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:32 PM
Jan 2025

Peaceful sit in at home or march or both.

Jose Garcia

(3,488 posts)
10. This isn't 1917 in St. Petersburg
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:32 PM
Jan 2025

If you don't like the government, kick them out in the next election. Protests are usually feel-good accomplish-little endeavors.

Deep State Witch

(12,695 posts)
12. Americans Don't Care
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:32 PM
Jan 2025

Honestly, I've given up on the idea of a majority of Americans caring about what he does. Either they're actively supporting it, passively supporting it, or just not looking up from their phones long enough to care. They may start caring when it directly affects them. Or, maybe it would have to be something big, like canceling the Super Bowl.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
15. We could make it like the Superbowl.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:35 PM
Jan 2025

March for Freedom and Love for country

March for our future against this fascist regime.

Tom Rinaldo

(23,187 posts)
16. Focused protests, sure, any time, bit it isn't ime yet for general strikes etc
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:39 PM
Jan 2025

God knows there's good enough cause for mass resistance now but that's not the point, changing the course we are on is the point. We have to build to that. WE see what has already happened as the crisis that it is, but not enough people have felt it as a crisis yet. It has to sink in more and more people either have to feel the pain and loss that this regime is causing, or at least see/hear the stories of those who are and will be suffering.

We can build toward that now though, calling attention to every evil that is progressing in every way that we can, to reach the critical mass of anger that is needed. A premature all out effort to reverse the tide won't work without enough people being extremely upset. Trump would try to turn our resistance into a pretense for more wide spread suppression, and possibly could come out of it stronger. It's a fine balance . More and more people will become disillusioned with Trump as the nature of his rule is felt. The time will inevitably come when wide spread resistance can flourish. If we wait too long though he can become too far entrenched.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
18. Thanks for the well stated opinion.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:50 PM
Jan 2025

It makes sense, but this is fluid...we need to have contingent dates of action.

tritsofme

(19,872 posts)
21. When will people sign up to lose their jobs and have their homes foreclosed?
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 04:33 PM
Jan 2025

Probably not anytime soon, would be my guess.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
22. If these people break our country, you'll be working,
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 05:02 PM
Jan 2025

As a slave. If you are lucky/unlucky enough to be alive. Your house will be Bozo Ranch Ala billionaire bafoonery.

MichMan

(17,064 posts)
27. People can always follow their conscience and start now
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 07:45 PM
Jan 2025

Quitting a job and stop paying bills can be an individual form of resistance. Every movement starts with a few dedicated people

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
30. They can do that if their job, boss, pay is crappy.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 07:53 PM
Jan 2025

But as a whole, together not working making money, product, or resources for the billionaires will have an impact. If the working class says no as a whole, it makes a difference. That is what the New Deal was created out of. The billionaires had to make concessions for the people, in order to get them to start making money again.

The New Deal was a catalyst for the middle class, Civil Rights, and an economic explosion that rebuilt this country into a power house until those that hated the New Deal grabbed power and have strangled our country since the 1980s.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,493 posts)
23. This country? With our current electorate?
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 05:50 PM
Jan 2025

Around 90ish million people didn't bother voting. Around 77 million voted for trump. Nearly half the country lives paycheck to paycheck and can't afford to not work all they can.

Looking at those numbers, the answer is never. There will never be a widespread nationwide general strike. Most Americans either don't care, actively support trump, or can't afford it.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
26. The problem with people these days,
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 07:42 PM
Jan 2025

When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose.

People will need to lose more, in order to take the necessary steps to gain more.

The people of the industrial revolution and Depression had next to nothing, but understood together they could get everything. They made it happen together. Solidarity.

milestogo

(22,974 posts)
28. When the weather is better across the nation.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 07:48 PM
Jan 2025

Nobody is going to go out there in dangerous cold.

LeftInTX

(34,130 posts)
29. Apparently a general strike is going to be held in May 2028
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 07:50 PM
Jan 2025
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/22/autoworkers-uaw-shawn-fain-may-2028-national-strike


It really takes that long to plan a strike?

They should do it well before midterms. Somehow, I doubt this will materialize. Not that many people are in unions anymore.

Also, what would they be striking for? The last general strike was held in 1946.

Many of the protests from 1945 to 1946 were for better pay and working hours, but only one study done by Jerome F. Scott and George C. Homans of 118 strikes in Detroit from 1944 to 1945, found that only four were for wages, with the rest being for discipline and company policies or firings


Right now, there are plenty of jobs. Would workers be striking for better pay? What do they want?

We aren't gonna get anywhere, if we are just going to complain about Trump. It could be about elimination of EEO? Increase the minimum wage?

Right now, it seems like Trump is conducting a reign of terror, shock and awe etc. I don't know if a general strike would oust creepy people from the cabinet, retain birthright citizenship, closing the border, immigrant raids, shutting off asylum, eliminating transgender rights etc etc etc.... Much of this has nothing to do with work conditions.

Dan

(5,099 posts)
31. IMHO - nothing like this will work, unless or until
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 08:31 PM
Jan 2025

Americans really start to feel feel the pain from the Orange one and his puppet-masters.

LeftInTX

(34,130 posts)
35. Yeah, right now the ones feeling the pain are immigrants. They are not voters.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 09:40 PM
Jan 2025

Unions aren't crazy about supporting immigration, so I don't see how this would work.

yagotme

(4,135 posts)
45. Change your W-4.
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 01:38 PM
Jan 2025

Claim 10 or more dependents. Expect the IRS to pay you a visit after next April 15th.

edhopper

(37,284 posts)
42. It just won't happen here
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 10:48 AM
Jan 2025

for one thing, in Europe, people do not lose their jobs after a strike. Here, too many would fear they will be fired, and many will.

The only workers here with a history of striking are in Unions. And the GOP has seen it that those are a small percentage of workers.

MichMan

(17,064 posts)
43. Does anyone know what the conditions are for striking workers to be eligible for unemployment?
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 01:33 PM
Jan 2025

New York, New Jersey, and California allow people on strike to receive unemployment benefits. Washington is currently looking at passing it.

It was probably written to cover a strike called by a labor union, but wondered if it could be expanded to cover a general strike like this?

edhopper

(37,284 posts)
44. I seriously doubt that
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 01:37 PM
Jan 2025

and for most, temporary unemployment won't override losing one's job.

FBaggins

(28,703 posts)
49. Effectively no
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 02:15 PM
Jan 2025

It varies from state to state whether you qualify for unemployment insurance when out on strike... but the problem in this case is that they wouldn't be out on strike. There's no attendant labor conflict with specific employers. Instead, it's a protest against the government.

William769

(59,147 posts)
46. Summer of Love 1967
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 01:54 PM
Jan 2025
it took awhile but affected change.


March on washington 1993.
Affected chage concerning LGBTQ rights & AIDS funding & access to life saving drugs. And yes I was there for that March.


Initech

(108,504 posts)
47. I personally want to see people with pitchforks and torches outside Fox News HQ.
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 01:58 PM
Jan 2025

They are the reason this country is in the mess that it's in. Nearly all of their hosts and executives need to be arrested for the hell they have wrought on this country.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,948 posts)
48. Never. That NEVER happens. The cult will never turn against him.
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 02:03 PM
Jan 2025

No matter what he does, no matter what happens, those people will praise it with great praise.

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