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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAt what point do we general strike or ALL get into the streets?
This insurrectionist has pardoned a bunch of terrorists that hate our country.
He attacked immigrants and LGBTQ.
He nullified our FDA AND CDC.
He went after Americans and birth rights.
This is an attack on the citizens of this country, and it's time for action by Congress that believes in our country and the citizens that want to do something.
I think we demand trump/vance should resign or we strike. I'm talking nothing gets done...no work, no bills paid, no shopping. Nothing. We are not a country of terrorists and insurrectionists, this is not okay. He is putting our country is at risk.
EarthAbides
(441 posts)I am thinking it will take at least 6 months for a strike and/or marching in the streets. Sadly, I think Stupid will be ready for us if we wait that long....
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)We need to strike while the iron is hot and they are no prepared for us to be organized.
How about Feb 14th! Love for country March and strike!
elocs
(24,486 posts)Tickle
(4,131 posts)I don't know how we are going to get through this.
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)They can't hurt anyone or blame us for destruction caused by bad actors.
EX500rider
(12,474 posts)The felon would do that call Martial Law, and he's hoping we will walk into that trap.
General strike.
chouchou
(3,084 posts)...others would take a nasty drop..and the rich and powerful would drop Trump like the Proverbial hot potato.
I can dream of such a thing..
BlueSpot
(1,293 posts)Because that wasn't enough to put anybody off.
chouchou
(3,084 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(26,840 posts)themaguffin
(5,125 posts)...note that many things are not going to happen. They will get dragged in court.
Yes, there is real uncertainty, fear and more for a lot minority groups.
There's also the main point of him attempting saturate us with what I paraphrase as Shock and Awful.
He can't sustain it and shit will go wrong for him.
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)When do we say this is enough and March, sit, or do something?
I'm not being sarcastic.
themaguffin
(5,125 posts)have at least 2 years with no branch of government to deal with him.
I do know that focus has to be on winning in 2026 and being vocal with Dems in office to use whatever tools and tactics available to slow down or even stop some of this.. aka act like Mitch and the GOP.
LiberalLoner
(11,467 posts)Im not sure they care if we dont work or buy or get into the streets.
I think the concentration camps being built on military posts and bases will have a handy dandy gas chamber and crematorium set up and they will kill all the out groups (like us) first and then the in groups, and by then the small number of remaining in group people will be too small of a group to resist the billionaires and Putins troops.
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)Peaceful sit in at home or march or both.
LiberalLoner
(11,467 posts)Jose Garcia
(3,488 posts)If you don't like the government, kick them out in the next election. Protests are usually feel-good accomplish-little endeavors.
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)And it was won by GENERAL STRIKES!
Frasier Balzov
(5,014 posts)Democrats gained 97 seats in the House and 12 seats in the Senate.
Maybe (maybe) some gains will be seen in 2026.
https://www.senate.gov/about/origins-foundations/parties-leadership/1932-political-realignment.htm
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)Deep State Witch
(12,695 posts)Honestly, I've given up on the idea of a majority of Americans caring about what he does. Either they're actively supporting it, passively supporting it, or just not looking up from their phones long enough to care. They may start caring when it directly affects them. Or, maybe it would have to be something big, like canceling the Super Bowl.
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)March for Freedom and Love for country
March for our future against this fascist regime.
Tom Rinaldo
(23,187 posts)God knows there's good enough cause for mass resistance now but that's not the point, changing the course we are on is the point. We have to build to that. WE see what has already happened as the crisis that it is, but not enough people have felt it as a crisis yet. It has to sink in more and more people either have to feel the pain and loss that this regime is causing, or at least see/hear the stories of those who are and will be suffering.
We can build toward that now though, calling attention to every evil that is progressing in every way that we can, to reach the critical mass of anger that is needed. A premature all out effort to reverse the tide won't work without enough people being extremely upset. Trump would try to turn our resistance into a pretense for more wide spread suppression, and possibly could come out of it stronger. It's a fine balance . More and more people will become disillusioned with Trump as the nature of his rule is felt. The time will inevitably come when wide spread resistance can flourish. If we wait too long though he can become too far entrenched.
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)It makes sense, but this is fluid...we need to have contingent dates of action.
tritsofme
(19,872 posts)Probably not anytime soon, would be my guess.
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)As a slave. If you are lucky/unlucky enough to be alive. Your house will be Bozo Ranch Ala billionaire bafoonery.
tritsofme
(19,872 posts)Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)We will not have a country in four years.
MichMan
(17,064 posts)Quitting a job and stop paying bills can be an individual form of resistance. Every movement starts with a few dedicated people
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)But as a whole, together not working making money, product, or resources for the billionaires will have an impact. If the working class says no as a whole, it makes a difference. That is what the New Deal was created out of. The billionaires had to make concessions for the people, in order to get them to start making money again.
The New Deal was a catalyst for the middle class, Civil Rights, and an economic explosion that rebuilt this country into a power house until those that hated the New Deal grabbed power and have strangled our country since the 1980s.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,493 posts)Around 90ish million people didn't bother voting. Around 77 million voted for trump. Nearly half the country lives paycheck to paycheck and can't afford to not work all they can.
Looking at those numbers, the answer is never. There will never be a widespread nationwide general strike. Most Americans either don't care, actively support trump, or can't afford it.
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose.
People will need to lose more, in order to take the necessary steps to gain more.
The people of the industrial revolution and Depression had next to nothing, but understood together they could get everything. They made it happen together. Solidarity.
milestogo
(22,974 posts)Nobody is going to go out there in dangerous cold.
LeftInTX
(34,130 posts)It really takes that long to plan a strike?
They should do it well before midterms. Somehow, I doubt this will materialize. Not that many people are in unions anymore.
Also, what would they be striking for? The last general strike was held in 1946.
Many of the protests from 1945 to 1946 were for better pay and working hours, but only one study done by Jerome F. Scott and George C. Homans of 118 strikes in Detroit from 1944 to 1945, found that only four were for wages, with the rest being for discipline and company policies or firings
Right now, there are plenty of jobs. Would workers be striking for better pay? What do they want?
We aren't gonna get anywhere, if we are just going to complain about Trump. It could be about elimination of EEO? Increase the minimum wage?
Right now, it seems like Trump is conducting a reign of terror, shock and awe etc. I don't know if a general strike would oust creepy people from the cabinet, retain birthright citizenship, closing the border, immigrant raids, shutting off asylum, eliminating transgender rights etc etc etc.... Much of this has nothing to do with work conditions.
Mountainguy
(2,145 posts)They have agreements until then.
Dan
(5,099 posts)Americans really start to feel feel the pain from the Orange one and his puppet-masters.
LeftInTX
(34,130 posts)Unions aren't crazy about supporting immigration, so I don't see how this would work.
PuraVidaDreamin
(4,568 posts)Pay your state and town taxes only.
MichMan
(17,064 posts)yagotme
(4,135 posts)Claim 10 or more dependents. Expect the IRS to pay you a visit after next April 15th.
kelly1mm
(5,756 posts)edhopper
(37,284 posts)for one thing, in Europe, people do not lose their jobs after a strike. Here, too many would fear they will be fired, and many will.
The only workers here with a history of striking are in Unions. And the GOP has seen it that those are a small percentage of workers.
MichMan
(17,064 posts)New York, New Jersey, and California allow people on strike to receive unemployment benefits. Washington is currently looking at passing it.
It was probably written to cover a strike called by a labor union, but wondered if it could be expanded to cover a general strike like this?
edhopper
(37,284 posts)and for most, temporary unemployment won't override losing one's job.
FBaggins
(28,703 posts)It varies from state to state whether you qualify for unemployment insurance when out on strike... but the problem in this case is that they wouldn't be out on strike. There's no attendant labor conflict with specific employers. Instead, it's a protest against the government.
William769
(59,147 posts)March on washington 1993.
Affected chage concerning LGBTQ rights & AIDS funding & access to life saving drugs. And yes I was there for that March.
Initech
(108,504 posts)They are the reason this country is in the mess that it's in. Nearly all of their hosts and executives need to be arrested for the hell they have wrought on this country.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,948 posts)No matter what he does, no matter what happens, those people will praise it with great praise.