Nader was wrong, by the way. You can't burn it down.
"we want to punish the Democrats, we want to hurt them, wound them"
I have been on this website for 22 years. Twenty two years. Imagine. A quarter of a lifetime. I have seen so many great discussions, and I have lost many people I loved here.
This rightward shift is not on the Democrats. It's an actual successful strategy via lies and manipulation. But I think we are going to be okay.
And let me be clear, the pronouncements and bullshit will absolutely drive us mad for the next four years, and thousands of people will suffer unimaginable hardships so they can get their views. (I will say many millions will suffer also but it will be subtle and not reported.)
The "Nader mindset" was to literally burn it all to the ground so something could arise in its ashes. But that is archaic thinking because the democratic experiment has survive 250+ years. I never thought class consciousnesss was possible. But Elon and Trump proved me wrong. There will be a reversion. I promise.
My last post for 4 years, love ya'll.
Josh
(PS I will still read!)
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Boy am I glad, we won’t hear from him again! 
