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Shirley Phelps-Roper @DearShirley
Westboro will picket Sandy Hook Elementary School to sing praise to God for the glory of his work in executing his judgment.
Whatever happens to these assholes, I hope the Newtown police completely look the other way.
From the way he was talking yesterday, Huckabee should be joining them.
Maybe some bikers will decide to make a trip for a "counter protest".
FLyellowdog
(4,276 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Initech
(108,659 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(156,595 posts)This is the worst.
Do they approve of those innocent babies' deaths?
They are not human.
Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)They did the same thing when the Amish children were killed in 2006.
I'm surprised someone hasn't decided to take them out already, but I think that day is coming. I won't shed a single tear.
geomon666
(7,519 posts)Lars39
(26,536 posts)RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)and can do nothing to protect the safety of members of the Westboro Baptist Church.
Literally tell the fucks they are ON THEIR OWN AND HAVE NO PROTECTION WHATSOEVER!
cali
(114,904 posts)any violence against them would just compound the tragedy.
atreides1
(16,799 posts)By showing up and doing their usual song and dance...the tragedy is already being compounded. But don't worry, the usual idiots will show up using children as shields, something that they always do, but for some reason no one in the media has mentioned.
cali
(114,904 posts)Tumbulu
(6,630 posts)with soapy water inside.
Lug them at them by the thousands. Get them cold and wet and give them the washing that they deserve.
An attempt to clean them up a bit.
Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)I'm really, really hoping their God decides to execute his judgment upon them, and in the worst way possible.
helps those that help themselves, I hear.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Quit spewing that filth here.
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Chipper Chat
(10,859 posts)crappy kindergartner behavior here? oh noes......
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,198 posts)You don't know what diseases they are carrying! And between you and me, I don't think a condom would be enough protection.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,198 posts)Just seeing that groups name is like waving a red flag to me. See, I lived in Jasper County MO. and a group of them were always coming into Joplin to throw a fit about something. Somehow, someway, their "visit" would spread hatred for days. It would take forever for the, lack of better word, illness to dissipate and everyone would be civil to each other.
I am all for Free Speech. But these guys, it is not just telling people their point of view. It is something else. I can not explain it to a person that have not felt the...energy, force, they bring to an area. It is very dark. If you could contain it and refine in, it would challenge the power of an atomic bomb.
Whatever that enery is, it is not of God.
progressoid
(53,125 posts)I wish there was a hell for these people to burn in.
csziggy
(34,189 posts)From posts on another forum, so no link, the bike 'gang' that makes a practice of blocking the Phelps from sullying a funerals will be in Newtown.
Good!
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)some from Texas are going there...
LTR
(13,227 posts)They harass WBC picketers who show up at soldiers' funerals. They do good work.
http://www.patriotguard.org/
csziggy
(34,189 posts)And they kept calling them 'angels' so I thought it was part of their name.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)The best way to deal with these people is to ignore them. They would love for someone to go up and punch them in the face. They get more lawsuit money.
They do this for attention. Pure and simple.
Tumbulu
(6,630 posts)they couldn't sue over that- especially if it was a bunch of kids that the police were ignoring.....
But you are right, they should be ignored.
struggle4progress
(126,083 posts)Tumbulu
(6,630 posts)Yes they could, but wouldn't it be satisfying? Ans something a marching band could do- or just a group of anarchists?
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)nt
virgogal
(10,178 posts)bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)If they were sued it would go to a local jury, who would sympathize with them entirely.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)May they be Greeted with Baseball Bats of Peace.
AldoLeopold
(617 posts)They need to come back to Oklahoma, Bryan Weathers, from Moore, said. We know how to take care of them here.
I'd pay real money to see that. Not funny money, but Vegas money.
ArnoldLayne
(2,263 posts)Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)Opposing views is one thing, but I just have no tolerance for hate anymore.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)they have a right to their opinions.
My problem is, there is a time and a place. Now in Newtown is neither the time nor the place. Funerals are neither the time nor the place.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)They are a hate crime personified. They do NOT have the right to spew that filth.
Christ on a crutch.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Throckmorton
(3,579 posts)Tumbulu
(6,630 posts)there do clearly need to be rules of behavior established. It is too much.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)What would I say if one of these grieving parents happens to be an excellent shot?
I am firmly anti-violence, but boy do these assholes give me pause.
Jamastiene
(38,206 posts)What is infuriating, though, is that the Phelps are so filled with hate and so full of themselves that they would love to be martyrs for their idiotic hatred. They really are THAT fucking deranged.
One guy went to do a documentary about them and go swept up in it and is now a diehard believer of their hatred. His daughter was 18 years old and merely wanted a boyfriend. They kicked her out, removed all her pictures from the walls, and disowned her. She now sees them as a cult and wants to see her parents again, but knows they are in a cult and that they likely will never acknowledge her even existing again. The father says she is going to hell now and that is a good thing and all in God's plan, or something to that effect.* That is how fucked up they are.
I know some types like that where I live. It is beyond infuriating to have to cope with people like that. Is it any wonder I stay home most of the time?
*Where I saw that was in a documentary called The Most Hated Family In America In Crisis. There are actually 2 documentaries. This is the second one. The first one doesn't have the In Crisis part behind the title. But, the one where they talk about that is in the one with In Crisis at the end of the title. It is on Youtube in 4 parts. So, if you search for Most Hated Family in America 1/4 or something to that effect, you can find it fairly easily. Watching it easily is a whole 'nother matter. I couldn't make it past the 2nd clip. Actually, I couldn't make it even halfway through the second clip. It is too infuriating to watch and listen to, but that is where you can hear** the father talking about how he thinks his daughter is going to hell and is saying it is a good thing and that he is happy about it. They make me so damn sick to my stomach.
**if you can stand to listen to it that long. It took all I had to get that far. They are so proud of themselves. They sure missed the part of the Bible about pride. Matthew 7:1 went straight over their heads too, apparently.
SmileyRose
(4,854 posts)They show up at military funerals and even Reagan's funeral.
Panasonic
(2,921 posts)I'm sure your protest zone will be about 300 miles away from the site.
Also, if Westboro wants good PR, protest at NRA HQ.
Marinedem
(373 posts)Would anyone give two fucks?
I can't condone violence against the pieces of cockroach shit, but boy can I understand it.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Arkansas Granny
(32,265 posts)They do it for attention.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)The attention leads to actions while they protest.
Those actions lead to lawsuits after the actions.
All of the major players in WBC are also licensed and practicing attorneys.
Their entire existence is a scam to generate revenue via lawsuits.
defacto7
(14,162 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)cecilfirefox
(784 posts)I apologize.
May the gods ignite them.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)AntiFascist
(13,751 posts)but they probably won't. Show these insane freaks for what they are.
former-republican
(2,163 posts)everyone knows the scum that they are.
AntiFascist
(13,751 posts)when well respected religious figures make these kinds of anti-gay statements it is often taken very seriously. Rev. Phelps and his church demonstrate just how insane these beliefs really are. Pro-gay media types often like to engage the Phelps family for this very reason. I happen to believe that the Westboro Baptist Church is one of the driving forces in turning the mass public against the religious right.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)Of course, nobody seemed to care very much when they were only picketing gay funerals. When they turned to the military, THEN they drew attention.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Makes me wish there was a God actually.
rrneck
(17,671 posts)former-republican
(2,163 posts)with the Patriot guard there.
Buns_of_Fire
(19,140 posts)I don't think the people of Newtown are in any mood right now to put up with them. And you've got to get back out of town alive to file one of their famous lawsuits, and I don't know that I'd give really good odds on that.
cash__whatiwant
(396 posts)they plan these things for pr and cancel now.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)The Westboro Baptist Church would be wiped off the map. And that is not a threat; that is a promise.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)I'd vote to acquit.
zappaman
(20,627 posts)Truly, they are heinous fuckers that make me ashamed to breathe the same air they do.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)Oh dear. Did I say that out loud?
Quixote1818
(31,154 posts)RudynJack
(1,044 posts)that if at truck drove into them at one of these "protests", no jury would convict. "It was an accident!"
Jamastiene
(38,206 posts)Jesus wept and is probably weeping even now when he sees those assholes using his name like they do.
Fuck them.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,198 posts)When they are full of that much hate.
It just spews from them. I don't know if you have ever been near this group, but it makes you feel sick. It is a lot like one hears tale of demonic possession. The dark feelings of oppression hangs off these people.
There is NO other way for me to explain what these people do to the...energry, of the area that they invade.
kysrsoze
(6,440 posts)And has many more bullets. Or would ur? Fuck them all.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)To me, these idiots are fundamentalist heroes. They are only one step away from
evangelicals who are only one step away from the Christian Right wing gun nutters .
I personally would love some physical stuff to happen to these idiots if they show up.
However, it would do our cause good for the average American to know how close the NRA
is to these fucking bugs! Extremists are Extremists!!!!!!!!
dawnie51
(959 posts)these idiots might want to reconsider their decision. This is not a good time to be messing with this community. But I have heard that the family has several lawyers in it, and they do this to try to incite someone to violence so they can sue. This could be very combustible scene.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)They should be thrown in jail, the sick fucks!! I remember how they were " protesting " saying it was a good thing soldiers died because they were gay. Fuking hateful pricks!! Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!!
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)of the citizens that are fed up with these assholes.
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RKP5637
(67,112 posts)a back road.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)I am not the kind to wish ill on anyone , but these bastards deserve it! Let their god help them then! The soldiers DIED to protect their freedom, and they laugh and dance and say its their gods will??? They should be locked up and evaluated , fuking sociopaths!
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)The don't plan to protest. They plan to celebrate. They celebrated the murder of soldiers. They celebrated the death of a gay man. If they were protesters they would be protesting the fact that it is so easy for mentally ill people to get guns and mass murder people.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)spanone
(141,519 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)back protesting a church because the pastor was not RW enough. They looked like a bunch of damn fools standing there with their ignorant signs.
union_maid
(3,502 posts)The shooter's dead. After a unspeakable horror such as was visited upon this community it's pretty natural to want to lash out and retailiate in some way. These idiots are pretty much offering themselves up as surrogates. Or at least that's how I'd feel about it if I was in Newtown, CT. If something happens to them they've got no one but themselves to blame. No one.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)lapislzi
(5,762 posts)Those monsters will not be permitted anywhere near the families. Count on it.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)
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Fire Walk With Me has posted about Occupy getting involved to block Westboro.
Bring in the bikers.
Tackle this from all angles...
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)There are going to be a lot of highly emotional people drawn to there. The last thing that town needs is someone doing a Samuel L Jackson - Ezekiel 25:17 impersonation on their little hate fest.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)an ongoing investigation to offer any support or protection.
Basically, the local PD is 100% justified in warning the assholes they are completely on their own,
frogmarch
(12,251 posts)I just looked, and I don't see it.
If they do this, they are asking for whatever happens to them.
Xipe Totec
(44,554 posts)Let's see what happens when he wakes up.
frank380
(27 posts)Maybe they'll get it on their schedule later.
Jamastiene
(38,206 posts)the assholes plan to really do it. They probably just haven't updated their schedule yet.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)These are evil people!
Cleita
(75,480 posts)descendants kills him and takes many others with him before committing suicide. Apparently, there is scuttlebutt out there that the Rev. is abusive to his family. It seems like his church could be a powder keg waiting to explode.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)said he's clearly off his rocker.
rl6214
(8,142 posts)A large group of us made sure they couldn't get anywhere near the funeral site.
Tumbulu
(6,630 posts)Cha
(318,793 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)It's possible she believes the abuse allegations against Daddy, and is deliberately pushing him into getting himself ended.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)This is not a church. This is a hate group. They know nothing about Christianity. Hell, they make even the other rightwing religious nutjobs look (almost) good by comparison.
Oh, and fuck them.
Irishonly
(3,344 posts)BUT I hope the vengeful god they believe in throws a few lightening bolt and locusts at them After that, they can break out in boils all over their bodies for the rest of their lives.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,198 posts)They have this...thing about them that can turn the most nicest person mean.
I truly believe that if they were around in the time of Christ, he would commit 1 very big no no against them.
That group may say that they do God's work, but boy the Devil loves them! I know two that were devote Christians that turned Atheist due to them. I mean these guys were what you would think of as true Christians. 1 run in with the WBC, and that ended big time!
Irishonly
(3,344 posts)I cannot relate to hate like they exhibit. I cry for the families and the community and I believe there will never be an explanation that explains the violence. If the Phelps group wants publicity, they most certainly get it. I think the biggest weapon against them is to ignore them. By ignoring I don't mean letting them protest unchallenged. I would love to see thousands of people standing in silent support of the victims and families.
frogmarch
(12,251 posts)is being organized on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/208248072645037/
1,740 members
Open Group
Westboro Baptist Church is planning to picket the Sandy Hook School in Newton, CT to PRAISE the shooter; and also they are planning to picket the funerals. We need volunteers to help come to CT and create a human wall of love to keep them from the mourners, families and surviving children.
brettdale
(12,748 posts)Surly they wont be that cruel.
DearHeart
(692 posts)around these poor people! Don't let those damned assholes get anywhere near them! Have police in full riot gear blocking their way.
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)These assholes will never get near the families. It's called "community." They wouldn't understand.
DearHeart
(692 posts)All I can do is send out prayers and love to these families! I'm just heartsick at their losses and the community's loss also!
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Tab
(11,093 posts)jes' saying. These assholes aren't going to heaven.
Tab
(11,093 posts)but it really wouldn't take much for me to grab a baseball bat (not a gun) and go down to CT and make things very difficult. It likely wouldn't be necessary, since there are plenty of locals willing to do the same, but there's a point where the shit just crosses the line, and they just crossed it. And I'd challenge a jury to convict me of it too.
wercal
(1,370 posts)I live in Topeka and have seen alot of the Phelps clan. The local news have figured out it is best to ignore them. I wiah the national outlets would do the same.
Ilsa
(64,320 posts)and fights them to keep them out.
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)any lower or disgusting, they do.
DebJ
(7,699 posts)This is the sickest, most horrible thing I have ever heard.
Do they believe they will bring people to God, to a God they claim now wants children murdered?
SmileyRose
(4,854 posts)It's basically down to her and her brats and a few stragglers. I predict the kids will piss on her grave and move on.
slutticus
(3,431 posts)this is beyond nuts, even for them. I'm pretty sure if they do this, it will end them. Once and for all.
defacto7
(14,162 posts)Thousands of people just block their way from wherever they try to enter the area. Thousands of people just stare them down without a sound. Just block and stare.
u4ic
(17,101 posts)capitalizing on tragedy.