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Tommy Carcetti

(44,587 posts)
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 11:04 AM Jan 2025

There's all this talk about how Trump is now getting "tough on Russia" and wants to "end the war" in Ukraine.

But what's conspicuously absent from Trump's rhetoric?

The answer is any indication that he wants Ukraine to win the war. That he wants Russia to retreat from sovereign Ukrainian territory. He's barely even mentioned Ukraine at all. He'd rather talk about his relationship with Putin than address Ukraine head on.

If you remember back during the debate, Trump was asked point blank whether or not he wanted Ukraine to win its war against Russian invasion and aggression. He couldn't answer it. He refused to answer it. And he still hasn't.

In his most recent tweet, he supposedly makes threats against Russia for sanctions and tariffs. First of all, Russia has already been heavily sanctioned at this point. And they've had some considerable impact but it's a slow burn. So Trump is just proposing something we've already long done.

And tariffs are laughable. Even before the invasions and sanctions, we got very, very little in terms of imports from Russia. So that's a drop in the bucket and won't have a single impact.

And secondly, this "threat" appears to be a substitute for military assistance, not a supplement. So there's a good chance military aid to Ukraine slows or stops altogether in the near future. When you consider the statements of people closest to Trump--Musk, Gabbard, RFK Jr., Vance, Don Jr.--they've all been highly critical of military aid to Ukraine.

The bottom line is that Trump might want to "end the war," but it's not going to be on Ukraine's terms. He'll cut a deal with Putin as soon as he can and then attempt to shove it down the Ukrainian's throats.

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There's all this talk about how Trump is now getting "tough on Russia" and wants to "end the war" in Ukraine. (Original Post) Tommy Carcetti Jan 2025 OP
He's an idiot with no plan. C_U_L8R Jan 2025 #1
I think Trump's plan is to take Ukraine for himself. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #2

Irish_Dem

(82,386 posts)
2. I think Trump's plan is to take Ukraine for himself.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 11:33 AM
Jan 2025

He appears the plan to hand Putin Ukraine is gone.
Trump will take it.

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