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DID TRUMP LOSE? (Original Post) Mr.Bee Jan 2025 OP
More conspiracy theory nonsense. tritsofme Jan 2025 #1
Yes, of course Cirsium Jan 2025 #2
The incumbent president and vice president had evidence the election was stolen from them and were powerless tritsofme Jan 2025 #3
Voter intimidation is hard to prove unless there's evidence it was coordinated. haele Jan 2025 #9
Correct Cirsium Jan 2025 #12
oh, THOSE are the only 2 possibilities, got it! Think. Again. Jan 2025 #5
Feel free to suggest another. tritsofme Jan 2025 #6
I'll give ya 2 others... Think. Again. Jan 2025 #11
Greg Palast doesn't have enough election expertise to take this seriously? ElementaryPenguin Jan 2025 #10
Have you noticed that he's President? iemanja Jan 2025 #4
Hoo boy. BannonsLiver Jan 2025 #7
So it's a conspiracy. Mosby Jan 2025 #8
If you would read the article most of those don't get counted either questionseverything Jan 2025 #16
He has always cheated dclarston13 Jan 2025 #13
What date is the video? brakester Jan 2025 #14
Elon provided the 'win'. DV1 Jan 2025 #15

tritsofme

(19,853 posts)
1. More conspiracy theory nonsense.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 03:58 PM
Jan 2025

I wonder about the people convinced by this silliness, do they think that President Biden and VP Harris were just too dumb to realize the election was stolen?

Or did they know about it, and choose to do nothing?

Cirsium

(3,684 posts)
2. Yes, of course
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 04:04 PM
Jan 2025

I don't think "President Biden and VP Harris were just too dumb to realize the election was stolen," I think there was nothing they could have done.

But of course the Republicans are winning because of their various voter suppression tactics. Occasionally, they even admit it. My guess is that before long Trump will be bragging about it. He has already hinted at it a few times.

tritsofme

(19,853 posts)
3. The incumbent president and vice president had evidence the election was stolen from them and were powerless
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 04:27 PM
Jan 2025

to do anything about it?

That is beyond silly.

haele

(15,207 posts)
9. Voter intimidation is hard to prove unless there's evidence it was coordinated.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 04:36 PM
Jan 2025

Likewise, disenfranchisement is also.
If the ballots or voting machines weren't actually tampered with, and a voter doesn't have an official record asking why s/he was stricken off voter rolls or turned away at the polls, it's really hard to prove the potential voter didn't actually care to turn in a ballot or stand in line to vote, and had just blown off the requirement to vote on time altogether.
That's what the GOP is counting on when they pull massive registration scrubs or polling site closures/moves in targeted districts at the last legal minute, or call in anonymous bomb threats.


Cirsium

(3,684 posts)
12. Correct
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 05:05 PM
Jan 2025

They couldn't do anything about it. What do you think they could have done?

I don't know if they looked at the evidence or not. Probably not.

By constantly talking about rigged elections the Republicans successfully maneuvered us into a weak position. They got us to vigorously defend the integrity of the elections, while they proceeded to rig elections every way they could.

The pattern should be so clear by now. Whenever Trump or his sycophants make wild accusations, they are actually revealing what they are doing. It is a clever trick and it keeps working.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
11. I'll give ya 2 others...
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 04:38 PM
Jan 2025

They didn't know about but not because they were "too dumb".

And...

They knew about it and had no choice but to do nothing.

dclarston13

(439 posts)
13. He has always cheated
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 05:29 PM
Jan 2025

They say he had a stand in for his SATs
He cheated on all his wives
He cheated in MANY business deals
Has has 30+ felonies on his record because his illegal business practices.
So it seems very likely that he cheated to win the last election, How I dunno.

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