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[sop]

1. Yeah, the "because of Gaza" fools are the ones who need to be smacked around.

[edhopper]

76. Not odd

joined today jut to post this bashing Israel and Harris and Biden.

[Roy Rolling]

87. My reply to them all, no sympathy from me

[Think. Again.]

126. How many swing state "because of Gaza" fools were there?

[LymphocyteLover]

2. you mean vote for Harris? Did they think Biden was still running?

[Rebl2]

60. I don't

blame you for being angry. Tell him to stop the texts/emails whining about what the orange one is doing and that he should have voted for Harris.

[Bettie]

79. My sons were upset about Gaza

but they realized that the orange man would be FAR worse.

They are young enough that they are impatient. They haven't realized yet that the only things that happen fast are things that make rich people richer, everything else is slow as can be.

[LeftInTX]

3. Yep! I guess it makes me feel more sane, when I realized, "They voted for this".

I can get my passport renewed and get a passcard that I carry in my wallet. That's about it.

But yeah, they [/i]voted for this. Whether they sat out the election or voted for Jill Stein etc etc etc. They knew what they were doing. Someone said, "We can handle deportations, but we can't handle genocide in Gaza"....So they chose deportations instead.

Also some of the immigrations rights people pivoted from immigrations rights to Gaza. They ended up voting for Jill Stein or someone else.

[RandomNumbers]

11. Tell me they don't know how US elections work

without saying they don't know how US elections work.

OR they are just as evil as the evil fuck they voted for by their deliberate inaction to vote against him.

[Oopsie Daisy]

32. The latter. 😡😠🤬

[standingtall]

71. Doesn't look like to me they chose between genocide in Gaza or deportations

but like their getting both to me and I don't know why anyone would've thought in different of Trump

[LeftInTX]

75. Deportations of Muslims and Muslim bans.

I saw Muslims on podcasts say, "We can live being deported and with Muslim bans, but we can't live with genocide. So we won't support Biden". (None of them were Palestinian)

Also the immigration rights groups, which tend to focus primarily on Latin American immigrants also switched their gears and went all out for Gaza. They kinda seemed to forget their main focus. I got a notice for someone who was very active in the asylum community ministry saying that he was quitting the party because of "genocide in Gaza".

The other day at the MLK March (before Trump signed his EO) They were all wearing keffiyehs and carried a "Free Palestine" banner. I think the keffiyehs probably came off by Monday night. Most of them in that group are Latino.

[Baitball Blogger]

5. Tell your cousin I send him a big sloppy

Fuck you!

[Wounded Bear]

6. Oh, don't restrain yourself. Let fly with the truth...they deserve it...nt

[defacto7]

90. They need it. n/t

[NameAlreadyTaken]

7. You need to block him.

He got what he wanted, which is for Kamala to not be President. Block him and eliminate him from your life completely. You will be much happier.

[Dave Bowman]

8. So he had no idea how crazy Dump is?

The weirdo kept showing up in the media demonstrating how insane and evil he is so unless someone has been living in a cave for a very long time they have no excuse.

[newdeal2]

9. You can tell them that their choice led to this moment

And next time (if there is one) think more carefully about the bigger picture instead of getting caught up on one issue.

And then I’d hang up until they’re willing to admit they were wrong and will do better.

[RockRaven]

10. FYTIWYVF - "Fuck you, this is what you voted for"

[Tesha]

12. Maybe you all don't know this, but Musk spent mega bucks...

To do exactly what your cousin heard, over and over and over

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/04/election-musk-pac-michigan-ads-israel-gaza

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2024/10/pro-trump-dark-money-network-tied-to-elon-musk-behind-fake-pro-harris-campaign-scheme/


Propaganda won this election

[yardwork]

17. Many of us managed to see through the crap propaganda

What's wrong with the ones who didn't see through it? Could it be that they hate Jewish people? They ignore massacres and atrocities all over the world except what Israel does. Posts about other atrocities drop like a rock and I've never heard anybody say that they wouldn't support Democrats because of US aid to Uganda, for instance.

Even here on DU, certain posters ignored all evidence that the Oct 7 attack and ensuing propaganda was planned deliberately to put Trump back in the White House.

[yardwork]

30. It was worse than that.

I'll just leave it at that.

[Tesha]

21. This isn't about the issue tho'

My comment was about what moved people to vote or not to vote,
And the propaganda is the biggest answer.

He even call one the RGB fund having paid for it, not Ruth Bader Ginsburg - but Musk’s millions


Propaganda was effective in the swing states because it used emotions on one issue - targeted.

[yardwork]

24. That is precisely the issue.

Obvious propaganda was obvious. Many of us saw through it and tried to warn others. They wouldn't listen.

Too many Americans allowed themselves to be fooled by propaganda that millions of the rest of us saw right through.

Propaganda is not going anywhere, and it will be more sneaky than ever as AI makes it easier to fool people. If we don't start taking life a little more seriously and exert some effort and self-discipline before we fall for every emotionally-laden lie, we're sunk. Literally sunk.

[Tesha]

34. I'm in NH, not a swing state

His $$$ from the propaganda wasn’t played here, but I still fought hard against good friends who, like me, are against Netanyahu, and I went on Republican pages to spread as much truth as possible. We won NH.

Why? People wanted to ‘punish’ Dems by not voting because Biden thought he could manage the situation.

But people in states where there was incredibly heavy spending, a constant drum beat, and no one was willing to lose friends to fight their need to ‘punish’ dems?
Folks like us didn’t push hard, person to person.

The propaganda won

[JI7]

66. That's why the drama over tiktok was a joke

After everything with what you posted suddenly the young people were upset over tiktok ban and they were going to see Trump as a hero. So what the Chinese do to Uighurs was ignored.

The thing about young people seeing Trump as a hero for saving tiktok didn't happen but it was something that was being pushed just like the bs from last year.

As you say it's just about hating one group and people's own egos and them doing drama. I don't think many of these people actually care about others. But it's performative bs.

[summer_in_TX]

101. I can tell you some of the many reasons you and I didn't fall for the propaganda.

Post WWII and during the Cold War, there was school curriculum designed to help students learn about propaganda techniques. In the early to mid sixties, still in elementary school, we learned about "glittering generalities," "the broken record technique," and the "bandwagon effect."

Lots of encouragement and opportunities to read for pleasure. Reading helped us understand the perspectives of others, and was instrumental in developing empathy

Then there was Civics Class that taught not only how our government worked but why it was set up the way it was, with its checks and balances.

As time passed by, the curriculum was messed with. The outsized Texas textbook market was a prime goal for capture. Dumbing down the standards and using ideological content has been underway for awhile now.

Then of course a careful campaign was waged to get rid of the Fairness Doctrine, which allowed the active propaganda of talk radio, FOX News, and the many RW-owned media and social media platforms.

We are the lucky ones in that regard. The RW media turned ordinary people into suspicious, angry people stewing over grievances. I'm grateful for all the things that insulated us against the toxicity.

[electric_blue68]

106. Really?! (not sarcastic)

summer_in-TX

"students learn about propaganda techniques. In the early to mid sixties, still in elementary school, we learned about "glittering generalities," "the broken record technique," and the "bandwagon effect."

Really?. I live/d in NYC JHS '66 - HS '70, and I don't remember getting any of that.
Nor in Elementary school, either.

[summer_in_TX]

107. I don't know the source of the curriculum. Maybe it was out of the University of Texas. Or maybe

it was a personal interest of my teacher's or the schools. Those were a time when teachers had some ability to innovate content too. This was in Austin, and I think I was probably a 5th grader which may have been 1964 or thereabouts.

[electric_blue68]

109. Interesting! Ty

[summer_in_TX]

111. I really thought that must be a national priority when I remembered it these last ten years or so.

But as a child I took it for granted. So I never learned how it came to be.

[yardwork]

131. I was taught about fallacies in 7th grade English,,

That would have been in the early 1970s. My English teacher was older and followed an "old-fashioned" curriculum. We learned how to diagram sentences - an invaluable skill that teaches the logic underlying English sentence structure, that I've made good use of in my career. We also read essays on logic and were taught about various fallacies.

I can recognize "straw man" and "no true Scotsman" arguments on DU every day. Humans use these and other fallacies without thinking. Other forms of propaganda are more deliberate.

In 8th grade we were taught from a history textbook that was centered around showing biases and how they were used throughout American history. We studied political cartoons, read essays from the 18th century, and dissected the underlying biases.

This early education served me well. It's all gone now from public education (and certainly from the religious-based charter schools), as far as I can tell. Recent efforts to begin teaching American History based on original documents have been suppressed as "woke."

We're going into a Dark Ages.

[Horse with no Name]

148. I remember learning about propaganda

In elementary school in the 70’s

[SkylineChili]

121. YES! to this

"glittering generalities," "the broken record technique," and the "bandwagon effect."

Wow I just had a flashback to my 4th grade class, in the mid 60's, where we had a semester long "Propaganda Unit" in which we learned how advertisers and politicians try to sway and control our actions through images and language. We studied commercials and political speeches to identify the various methods of propaganda used. It has served me well. I haven't heard the phrase "glittering generalitites" in a while, and that's a shame. Breaking down the messaging and understanding what they are trying to do with it is key. Today, people simply swallow it whole.

We were also the generation that read and studied Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 451 and 1984, also at fairly young ages, early HS, and discussed them in depth.

The first thing any autocratic movement does is begin to control the language. Trump is stupid but he (and his minions) know that much and they have already begun the "down is up" "war is peace" tango.

[yardwork]

129. I've often thought that the dumbing down was deliberate.

Like you, I was taught about fallacies. There's a reason it isn't taught anymore.

[summer_in_TX]

140. Absolutely. My sons (now in their early forties) don't understand fallacies.

They believe ad hominem and straw man arguments are valid.

I retired 14 years ago as an elementary special ed teacher of reading and math. One requirement is that each child qualifying for special education services has and IEP, an Individualized Education Plan. We sped teachers built those using the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills (TEKS) appropriate to the greatest needs our students had in learning.

For years my go-to for students with reading comprehension issues was for them to be able to figure out character feelings and motivations from their behavior in stories. That was no longer even included in the TEKS at least by my last year of teaching (2010-'11). So yes, dumbing down was occurring in curriculum requirements under Republican control. And they considered social and emotional learning (SEL) to be somehow suspect, instead of designed to build empathy. Texas Republicans even condemned it in at least one of their party platforms.

[yardwork]

141. Empathy is the last thing greedy people want to teach.

Thank you for your years of service as a teacher.

[summer_in_TX]

143. Thank you, yard work!

Empathy opens us to warmth, connection, love and beauty. It is baffling that it has become something to be suspicious of and dreaded by so many.

[electric_blue68]

144. I just looked ip propaganda techniques including fallicies

I'll see what I don't know, or forgotten.

But I did read 1984, and probably Animal Farm for school.

[Dorian Gray]

120. 100%

October 7th was a ruthless attack on civilians. October 8th we had people in NYC protesting Israel, before they even responded.

And people were defending that like it was genuinely a good form of "resistance."

No. Murder is murder.

Israel's response was huge and relentless and ruthless, too. I understand protesting that.

What I don't understand is when we had a man in the White House who actually tried to negotiate limits to the response, people in this country thought Trump would be an acceptable alternative.

FUCK them all.

[yardwork]

125. Well said on all points.

[LisaM]

139. Exactly. It was always beyond me why people blamed Biden.

That made absolutely no sense. Netanyahu aside (he doesn't even represent what most Israelis want), divesting from Israeli companies or companies that do business in Israel,which is what a bunch of under informed college students seemed to want, would give us a Middle East with no Israel. That's clearly the end game of the people who staged the protests. It was always clearly the end game.

I don't think they are teaching critical thinking any more. They can't be.

[OldBaldy1701E]

49. Ignorance won this election.

Which is why the propaganda worked on the majority of the country. Those who either voted for the orange gibbon, or sat the election out, also did this because of ignorance. And, what is really frustrating to me is the level of denial in reality that some of them suffer. They just will not accept the truth of their eyes and ears.

(There is also the element of delusion in the mix. Plenty of folks are just plain delusional when it comes to hero worshiping. Especially when that 'hero' is so completely sub-par as a human being.)

[Callie1979]

53. Twitter & TikTok won this election

[OldBaldy1701E]

59. Which is part of why I said what I said.

Anyone who just blindly believes something that appears on either platform is just ignorant, regardless of how many 'likes' it gets.

Anyone who just blindly believes anything from the internet without doing some serious checking is also ignorant. The internet is too easy to manipulate. TOO easy.

[Callie1979]

128. "ignorant" is the description. For some I'd say "WILLFUL ignorance"

[CrispyQ]

62. See my post below about my friend's late-20s daughter who got her voting info from TikToc.

Lots of on her part & lots of on her mother's. People need to sharpen up!

[cstanleytech]

55. Musk bought his way into the position and usually that's called bribery and is considered a crime.

[Demovictory9]

13. What did they expect?

[Deep State Witch]

14. Great. He can go to Gaza

To help the relief effort.

[JohnSJ]

15. How stupid can you be? The sociopath told us exactly what he was going to do, and he is

doing it.

Anyone who voted for trump, didn’t vote or voted third party is in no position to complain about this administration. They helped usher it in.

[yardwork]

16. I can't post what I think if these people.

Calling them stupid, vile, bigoted fools is too kind.

[DFW]

19. What I would have to say to your cousin is............

....very dangerous to my continued presence on this board, so I won't.

[Maru Kitteh]

20. Find a way to express your sentiment without going full nuclear. You'll never rest till you do. Nt

[LudwigPastorius]

22. Get him a "I didn't vote against leopards eating faces because there were so many OTHER faces than mine to eat." button.

[Beartracks]

23. "Choosing not to act" -- That actually *is* an action.

These people most certainly VOTED by their inaction, even though they did not CAST A BALLOT, because their choice to stay home on Election Day had just as much impact on the outcome as those of us who did their civic duty.

================

[yardwork]

25. Absolutely. Choosing not to vote was a choice.

[anamnua]

26. Quite so

If you didn’t vote you can’t complain.

[bdamomma]

95. Exactly

nt

[hay rick]

27. In 2024, inaction was complicity.

[LW1977]

28. Any part of their face missing from leopard bites?

[NoRethugFriends]

29. Your cousin can go fuck himself (which he already did once of course)

[calilama]

36. The fuck yourself was completely forseeable

Voting against Harris because of Gaza is even more wrongheaded than it seemed....the "River to the Sea" movement had a percentage of flat-out Jew-haters and that turned off a lot of traditional Jewish liberal voters who were progressive zealots but understood the significance of Israel....the dumbest part is they put a guy in the office who is going to turn Gaza into a seaside mall....Palestinians could not get fucked harder by any other US politician....strange days indeed

[Tetrachloride]

31. The ends justifies the means

and the memes

[state of stupid]

33. He made his choice.

He is responsible for the choice and the consequences of that choice. He does not get a free
pass on the choices he made. He cannot blame others for his choice or for his following bad
advice. He made the choice to listen to the bad advice. If he is looking for the problem, look
in a mirror. There he will see the problem as well as the solution to the problem.

[NNadir]

35. Within one year it will be difficult to find many people who'll confess...

...to voting for the felon.

Assholes!

[Ocelot II]

40. I remember that after the whole Watergate brouhaha was over and Nixon resigned,

it was really hard to find anyone who'd admit to having voted for him despite his landslide in 1972, in which he won
61% of the popular vote and every state but MA and DC. "Me? Uh, well, he was a crook, you know, so..." (downcast eyes and shuffling feet). Except for my great aunt, who kept a photo of him in her living room and insisted he'd been framed.

Some of the cult members will defy reality and blather about the Deep State and it was all Biden's fault, or maybe Obama's or Hillary's. But I think we will see a lot of hemming and hawing and changing the subject.

[electric_blue68]

108. Ohhh, boy. I remember walking into McG's NYC Election Night hotel around 6PM and seeing the projected voting pattern..

projected on the Big Screen.

There were hardly any people there.
It was sooo painful!

(and I'll already had volunteered for Humphrey, after I decided in mid Sept I had to campaign against Nixon. Had to recover from Bobby's assasination)

[Ocelot II]

37. Tell him to watch out for leopards.

[mdbl]

38. I tolerate this idiocy the least

Any idiot that voted for Dump and then whines about what he's doing can F off.

[Beartracks]

67. That voted for him OR DIDN''T VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE WHO COULD'VE STOPPED HIM. n/t

[irisblue]

39. I was born in Detroit. I got words, lotsa words when/if someone says my mom was not a citizen

[Hope22]

41. I think it's fair to explain the issue.

I have to admit the voters that either voted for T or voted for no one really screwed those who voted for the best possible chance of survival.

[Demobrat]

42. "Because of Gaza" huh?

Well you know that blanket cutoff to foreign aid he just decreed? WTF do you think that’s about? WTF did you think would happen? No pity at all for these morons or their “principles “. Their principles just made things a million times worse for Gaza, and they asked for it.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

110. And it wasn't hard to know ahead of time that

Gaza would suffer more with the Felon at the helm. Inexplicably poor reasoning to expect otherwise.

[Demobrat]

115. It can't even be called reasoning.

It’s like they cared more about making some point about their moral superiority than they did about what actually happened to Gaza.
And they were ostensibly people who paid attention and were aware. Mind boggling.

[femmedem]

43. I am going to go against the tide and commend you for your restraint.

I believe this is a lesson your cousin needed to learn only once, and that he will not be voting third party or refraining from voting ever again.

He shares your values; he just had a poor strategy.

I say this as someone who voted Green in my youth before I became an active member of my local Democratic Town Committee.

[BluenFLA]

44. Honestly what did these idiots expect!?

It's one thing to say "Bring it, we can deal with whatever crap you'll do" but to actually go through it seeing how this monster is already trying to destroy everything is another thing.

If I was an optimist I would say they will learn for the next election. But as we saw in 2016 when they demonized Hillary Clinton and took their chances they have not and never will.

They are that stupid!

[paleotn]

47. Gerbils have more forward thinking skills.

Lack of critical thinking isn't limited solely to the right.

[ismnotwasm]

45. Finding out, are they?

We told them.

[paleotn]

46. Print a sticker that reads "I'm a Moron". Make him wear it.

[Evolve Dammit]

48. I don't at all blame you for being pissed. If folks don't vote, no sympathy. Origin of the problem may well be the vast

amounts of misinformation/lies/propaganda efficiently targeting demographically selected sectors of our citizenry. Why do you think the orange felon is surrounding himself with all the billionaire cyber owners/controllers? They are the future and present to control us and subvert all elections.
So many are down a rabbit hole or are cult members that I don't know if we can ever recover. AI will be relentless whatever silo you're in. Scary times.
May have to re-read 1984. It's here. Or 1930's Germany. Sorry to digress. Take care

[dlk]

50. Too many Americans fail to understand

When they don’t vote, they’re giving two votes to the person they don’t agree with; in this case two votes for Trump supporters. Action as well as inaction, has very real consequences. Unfortunately, it seems some people, can only learn the hard way.

[1WorldHope]

51. Voter suppression deserves a lot of credit too.

Also if you were just starting out in life and did not have an IRA or 401 K no money in stocks or bonds, and you are working 2 or 3 jobs, then the Biden economy wasn't working for them.
I'm not defending your cousin's poor choice. I just think it was more than one reason. They all came together to end the great experiment of democracy. We are fucked.

[MontanaMama]

52. The Gaza voters were all over social media

throughout the summer and into election season. And, there were thousands of Gaza bots as well. They were easy to spot and call out if one took the time but a lot of people didn’t do that. I believe it was all part of a disinformation campaign to muddy the water. FOTUS didn’t win by much at all. Rethug operatives only had to shave off a few likely Dem voters to pull this off. I’m still not sure they actually won but that’s another thread.

[Orrex]

54. I interacted with so many of those assholes

Fuck them along with trump’s full blown kkkultists, because they worked just as hard to elect him.

[FakeNoose]

56. Oops!

[sakabatou]

57. Your cousin is a victim of face eating leopards

[Rebl2]

58. Why the

heck are you holding back. I would tell him what you think. Tell him you are effing mad he didn’t vote and has zero right to complain.

[CrispyQ]

61. I have a friend who is crushed & pissed that her daughter voted for Trump.

Apparently the daughter (late 20s) heard on TikToc that Trump was going to return abortion back to the states & that that was a good thing. There are so many things wrong with that statement I can hardly believe my friend's daughter believed it, much less that she didn't bother to check it out for herself & my friend feels the same way. When she set her daughter straight on the facts, the young woman was full of regrets.

[Callie1979]

130. There was SO MUCH disinformation pushed by TikTok.

The Chinese were as helpful to trump as russia.

[CrispyQ]

133. I blamed bigotry more than anything for Harris' loss, but now I think misinformation was just as big an issue.

Another friend, a Canadian who lives in the states but doesn't follow politics closely, told me her takeaway from the American election was that it was mostly about the trans issue. That people are pissed that women have to compete in sports with transwomen & share locker rooms with them. Also, they're tired of having to be sensitive about pronouns.



I was boggled! This is a good friend of mine!! It took me over a week to craft a response where it didn't sound like I was calling her a moron. So I pointed out that less than 2% of the population identify as trans & that the trans issue is a religious zealot issue so the Trump campaign ran with it & spent 40% of their budget on anti-trans ads the final weeks of their campaign, so if you're tired of hearing about it, look to them. Then I reminded her 50% of the US population are women & we're being denied emergency medical care at ERs & hospitals around the country & that I thought that was a much more urgent issue. OMG, she hadn't heard any of these stories!!

[Callie1979]

135. But those ads were damaging. I saw them CONSTANTLY being in a swing state

And the non-response was just as damaging.
What it did was take was was pretty much a non-issue and make people THINK it was just taking over EVERYTHING. And from your friends POV their money was well spent because it worked with her & she doesnt even LIVE here.
Personally I think the border was a bigger issue but all the disinfo pushed on twitter & TikTok was about UKR taking our money, trump being targeted, the "Biden crime family" all various kinds of lies about pedophiles etc added fuel to the fire.

Funny how trump is going to (supposedly) release all these assassination records but NOT the Epstein files or the "black book" ; wonder if HE'S in it??

[CrispyQ]

136. Oh, I totally agree those ads were damaging. And effective.

I'm disappointed in her, that she would be swayed by political ads of all things. She's a frickin' comptroller so she's not stupid, just ignorant, & apparently willingly ignorant.

[BigmanPigman]

63. My sister and I have the same plan.

If anyone bitches and complains about tRump and his policies we are going to say, "Stop. Who did you vote for?". And leave it at that. She already did say it and her friend was left speechless for a moment. She knew what my sister was saying and it hit home. Good!

[AKwannabe]

64. Let loose! Let loose! nt

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

65. It's a little late to discover who Trump is and always has been, cousin.

[elias7]

68. Well, he is in good company. The UN has condemned Israel 17 times in 2024, and only 6 times for the rest of the world

The odd magnifying glass of Israel/Gaza is causing craziness in this country and in the UN. For “Gaza” to be a single issue as a US voter is crazy, no matter how you feel about the situation in the Middle East. However, with the UN condemning, Israel three times more than every other country combined when all these human rights abuses and ongoing wars in the Sudan, Syria, Yemen, China, Russia, Myanmar, Nigeria, Pakistan, etc., moreover after they were attacked and goaded into war, speaks to something very unusual going on in the world messaging department.

[Tetrachloride]

124. but they do

money buys advertising and therefore votes

as long as whatever voter gets their hearts desire

[betsuni]

69. Ah, but the high of the self-righteous superior moral purity is intoxicating!

Holding feet to the fire, speaking truth to power, teaching a lesson, punishing the evil war-mongering Democratic establishment, throwing around words they don't understand like genocide, imperialism, capitalism that they've heard other people say -- nobody can pull the wool over THEIR eyes.

Party's over. Until next time! Plenty of ignorance and Democrat-bashing right here and wherever you go!

[24601]

73. Most of us have friends or even close relatives who habitually slide into that slimy pit of single-issue voting. Cutting

off all contact, especially with our siblings or kids, hasn't effectively broken the circle of ignorance. It can also have the opposite effect, galvanizing political differences for a generation or longer. Sincere engagement is more likely to succeed.

If it doesn't work over time, we can always fall back on "See, I told you that the US would cease to exist as a sovereign nation!"

[CousinIT]

78. Oh I'd have let loose on them already.

THAT’S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON’T VOTE!

[struggle4progress]

81. It's a-hard and it's hard! ain't it hard?

to have shit for brains! ain't that true?
It's a-hard and it's hard! ain't it hard? good God, yall!
Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?

[bucolic_frolic]

82. One issue voters are ignorant of politics. It's democracy's Achilles heel. /nt

[turbinetree]

83. Not to be rude but when did he realize this epiphany moment..................when the traitor been in office...........

yet again.......................for one week......and he is doing the FAFO moment, I don't really care he made his bed .........and as for voting...............he has no right to complain in my book.....none.......if you don't vote you can't complain ............its that simple..............might as well stand in front of a wall and talk to yourself...........I have a better idea for him............... .................just saying ..............

[J_William_Ryan]

84. "because of Gaza"

A fascist sex offender, criminal, convicted felon, and sociopath is installed as ‘president.’

[Hope22]

123. .....of the United States........nt

[Norrrm]

85. Cousin got what he wanted.... Trump in the WH.

[SupportSanity]

86. So, if you voted for Trump or didn't even bother to vote.....

..... You should be forced to stay in this country and not have any chance of escaping Trump and all the hell he will be unleashing.

Like the soup nazi from Seinfeld says :
No passport for you!!!!

[JanMichael]

88. Sound like a TBI.

[Crunchy Frog]

89. I'd hand him his ass if I were you.

[Prairie Gates]

91. Always some family saga or other

[defacto7]

92. You've got to say something. They need to hear it. All of it.

Don't let someone else talk him out of his guilt and pardon his inaction.

[Buttoneer]

93. "I told you so" is going to be a tired phrase before long.

[AllaN01Bear]

94. sorry charlie.

[Pris]

96. People who play with their votes

Let loose

[AverageOldGuy]

97. Do not restrain yourself

Tell him to getthefuckout, better yet, offer to buy him a one-way ticket to Gaza.

[Mountainguy]

98. The sheep who voted for the wolf

because they were mad at the dog.

[Jack Valentino]

99. "I" was upset about Gaza myself, but I expected that policy would change somewhat

if Kamala was elected. I think she signaled that---
but not loudly enough for some of the, um, less discerning voters to "get it"....

And certainly "policy would change somewhat" if Trump was elected--
more than "somewhat", for the worse-- but the morons who stayed home
never had an answer to that...

[Hassler]

100. Tell him Jared will hire Palestinians to clean rooms at his Gaza hotels

[Buzz cook]

102. Tell them it's time to get active.

They can't change the past, but they can change the future.
Volunteer, become a precinct captain, take to the streets and march. There are lots of things they can do.

[Bread and Circuses]

103. Good! I hope she can't sleep at night! AND

Please send her daily texts to remind her that she’s a stupid idiot.

And we don’t forget and forgive any of the Felon -voters.
They did this shit to all of us.

[Figarosmom]

104. You have the right

To tell him of but good. Just lay into him.

[JI7]

112. I don't think your cousin cares about Gaza

I think they like to be performative and do drama.

[dchill]

113. Considering "fleeing the country to escape the tyranny."...

...of himself? Who's really to blame, here?

[BigmanPigman]

114. I just told my sister about this post since we have been doing it

I chose to respond to everyone who bitches about tRump and his policies in the future with, "And WHO did YOU vote for?".

I found out at our family holiday dinner that my sister is doing the same thing that I am and it works! Her friend since childhood started to complain about the Dems and Israel and blah, blah, blah as usual when my sister put the ball back in her court her friend was silent for 15 seconds...the friend obviously knew my sister was correct and had no response. It works. I think we should all do this all the time. American hypocrites need to be confronted at every opportunity. Call them out to their face and sit back. They have nothing but egg on their faces and they know it.

[GoodRaisin]

116. Make sure he knows what Trump said about cleaning out Palestinians from Israel.

Should be the icing on the cake for that dumbass.

[muriel_volestrangler]

138. This - it was plain to anyone who cared about Palestinians that Trump would be worse for them

and he has already proved it.

[C Moon]

117. I'm tired of forgiving them when they "realize." Please. Go away. Far away. Never vote again in a U.S. election.

[Aussie105]

118. Hopefully Trump's manic and uncoordinated flailing around over the past week will convince that:

1. Voting is really, really important.

2. Having enough of an imagination to discuss with yourself the consequences of being off-hand and casual about voting.

And most importantly, Trump voters might start to think "I called it wrong!" and do differently next time.

[Dorian Gray]

119. I'd have schadenfreude

if it wasn't so bleak.

The Genocide Joe brigade really fucked their cause over. If they had given it one moment of thought, they could have seen this outcome.

I have a lot of anger and resentment for that group because their activism actually harmed the people they purported to care for. The Palestinian people in Gaza deserve better than the terroristic thugs who run their country and advocates across the world who wanted to stick it to Kamala so much that they didn't take a second to consider what it would look like when she lost.

[cstanleytech]

122. Not voting for Harris was a vote for Trump.

[kansasobama]

127. Talk to Rashida

Champion for anti-Harris voters. Sorry, cannot shed tears although I want to. Did you see today's report that says Trump wants to clean up Gaza and transport Gazans to Jordan and Egypt? You know what that means. Did we say he will raze it down to build Trump hotels? Trump says it is a beautiful area near the sea. Okay...well, that is exactly the definition of demolishing Gaza.

I want to wish Gazans well but stupid voters will pay for stupidity although I don't want to wish any Gazans harm. Your American supporters have done undue harm to you. Remember Rashida for this.

[Zambero]

132. Unintended consequences of stupidity

Susan Sarandon syndrome is alive and well. Consequential in 2016, and with lessons not learned still wreaking havoc in 2025 and undoubtedly beyond.

[samsingh]

137. I have no sympathy for them

[D_Master81]

142. I never understood these people

Of all the excuses for idiots that decided to sit out 2024 the Gaza excuse has to be the dumbest of all. Did they not pay attention to Trump’s 1st term? All of his words and actions pointed to him being worse in the region for those in Gaza.

[The Third Doctor]

145. The perfect is the enemy of the good.

[Johnny2X2X]

146. This is what they voted for

I have that one ready, the first Trumpster who complains to me is getting that, "This is what you voted for, he literally said he was going to do this (insert awful thing here).

[Horse with no Name]

147. Good

The blood is on his hands

[Happy Hoosier]

149. Heard this from at least 3 people so far...

Folks I know who did not vote becuase of Gaza now expressing fear or concern. My reply to each of them is "What the fuck did you think was going to happen?"

2 expressed that we live in a red state and so it wouldn;t matter (except our state is now dominated by fascists). 1 thought Harris would win anyway. They can't think beyond their own selfish little noses.

It pisses me off.

And frankly, all the assholes who undermined Biden and Harris for the sake of this issue can fuck off too.

[aggiesal]

150. FAFO comes to mind. I think that accronym will be very popular for the next 4 years. n/t