There is no working with, getting along with, or compromising

[NewHendoLib]

with the MAGA monster. Any politician who thinks so is just incredibly naive and delusional.

Period.

[Whyisthisstillclose]

1. Amen

[dugog55]

2. The Democrats have been guilty of this since Obama got elected.

Once Obama got elected and McConnell said his main goal was to make him a one term President, that set the tone for the next 16 years. That is not doing his job of working for the betterment of the people. Which, by the way, really started with Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton. They get away with everything and continually block Progressive Legislation. Obama could not replace a Supreme Court judge with 10 months left in his term, but they rammed ACB through in the last couple months of Trump's term. They have been playing dirty politics, McConnell especially for almost two decades now. When will the Dems learn they cannot work with these people and just find a way to get around them. Biden should have expanded the Supreme Court when he had the chance. But maybe he thought that wouldn't be fair. I am willing to bet by the end of Trump's term there are 13 Supreme Court Justices. Ten of whom will be conservative, way more so than Alito and Thomas. We have been wading neck deep in GOP shit since Roberts Court stole the election from Gore. By the time Trump is done, this country will be too.

[NewHendoLib]

4. Yes. The Dems have been bringing water balloons to

Nuclear warfare fights for a long time.

[JHB]

6. I'm trying to remember when I coined "bringing pie charts to a street brawl"...

Pretty sure it was the late 80s, and if not, early 90s.

The Democratic leadership never understood the right. Those of us who did got scolded.

[DENVERPOPS]

12. Agreed

and no matter what we offered in constructive criticism, we got spanked hard. Mostly for not taking the "High Road", when in fact we realized they were going all out with guerrilla warfare.....

[standingtall]

15. Biden never had a chance to expand the Supreme Court

Legislation has to be repealed before expanding the court and to do that the legislative filibuster would've needed to be repealed. We had nowhere close to a filibuster proof majority. We couldn't even get Manchin and Sinema repeal the legislative filibuster to codify Roe V. Wade so there was no chance they would've voted to repeal it for the purpose of expanding the court. Despite Biden signaling reluctant's to expand the court. I firmly believe if it ever got to his desk he would've signed it, but it's a moot point, because Democrats never had the means to expand the court in Biden's term.

[Cirsium]

18. That never stops Republicans

"We don't have enough seats" is what we have heard from Democratic politicians for decades. How come that never strops the Republicans from advancing their agenda?

[EdmondDantes_]

20. Except it does

They couldn't kill the ACA because of it. They barely got anything passed in Trump's first term other than the tax cut.

[standingtall]

22. because will allow too many back stabbers into the Democratic party

like Manchin,Sinema,Lieberman,Gabbard,Kennedy Jr., Zell Miller etc. If republicans want to repeal the filibuster even with a slim majority they'll get the votes they need.

[PortTack]

25. Sadly might have to add fetterman to that list

[hadEnuf]

39. You know, you have a very good point there.

None of the stuff we sit around hand-wringing about ever stops the Republicans. They raise more hell when they are in the minority then we could ever conceptualize.

Why?

[dugog55]

42. Thank you for the clarification.

I just remember Biden being asked by a reporter maybe, but someone, it was a new clip, if he was thinking of expanding the SC, and he said flatly NO.

[lastlib]

29. ...and one of them will be I-lean "Loose" Cannon.......

[The Wizard]

3. Too radical for reason.

It is an extremist fringe movement.

[Think. Again.]

5. I agree...

No nazi Sympathizers Allowed.

[Katinfl]

7. Micheal Steele said the same thing this a.m. on MSNBC.

He basically stated, in no uncertain terms, the GOP is not at all interested in bipartisanship. They will say they want you at the table and then hand you your hat and tell you to go sit in the next room ( I’m paraphrasing here, but you get the point). They have the WH, the House and the Senate. They don’t need democrats…….or so they think.

[PortTack]

26. The house very much needs the Dems. Listen to leader Jefferies...he knows

[Skittles]

32. "or so they think, indeed"

Dems have long cleaned up repuke mess and helped them make stuff more palatable - many Americans have never seen what pure conservatism with repukes in power actually means......FAFO

[Autumn]

40. Republicans know they will always have all the Democrats they need. nt

[dlk]

8. Attempting to reason with bullies is a losing strategy

Unfortunately, they see any from of compromise or negotiation as weakness. It’s only my way or the highway with them. Bullies are proud of being bullies. Appealing to their better natures is a waste of breath.

[stillcool]

9. Sounds like Democrats should go home

Nothing they can do, let the Republicans have at it. It is who people voted for. I have all Democrats that represent me and our state. I hope their absence doesn't hurt us too much, but I guess the 'party faithful' would be very happy regardless.

[choie]

10. I hardly think that is what the OP is suggesting.

They're saying that the Dem elected leaders should fight with bare knuckles and shouldn't be complicit with the MAGA republicans in their implementation of illegal, and immoral policies under the guise of bipartisanship.

[DENVERPOPS]

13. Agree

And I also feel, like others that have been screaming about the Republicans ever since 1980 when HW and his CABAL Treasonously stole the election from Carter, that we needed Strong Dems and most of all Strong Dem Party Leadership. I, for one, am still waiting for strong party leadership willing to confront the MAGA RepubliCONS head on........

[wnylib]

16. I came very close to leaving the party then

and registering as an Independent.

[NewHendoLib]

19. I want to see some grit, fight, action. Not apparent right now.

[PortTack]

28. I see it...Jefferies, AOC, Crockett, Raskin, Moskowitz, Porter, Swalwell, Dem govenors and state attorneys general

I could go on

[Nigrum Cattus]

11. 100 %

They will try to get some "across the isle" BS stuff in the future.
All the non-maga's need to tell em, no thanks.

[DENVERPOPS]

14. Years ago

A Republican Aide said to a Dem Aide:" We will do what we wish, and all you can do is stand back and watch"

[republianmushroom]

17. Maybe someday democrat politicians will learn that.

Like I said, maybe.

[Kingofalldems]

21. *Democratic* not 'democrat'.

[wendyb-NC]

23. That's 100% true

[Karasu]

24. Yep. A fascist is a fascist is a fascist.

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You cannot work with fascists. Nor can you appease them. It hasn't worked one time in all of history, and it isn't about to start now.

[Historic NY]

27. Meanwhile some Democrats are squeaking about bi-partisanship they need to STFU

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zBYoYr7NAZA]
Get your fucking act together now

[Buns_of_Fire]

30. Democrats have been assuming for far too long now

that they're dealing with sane, rational people who also want what's best for the country.

Problem is, they're not sane, rational people anymore. The MAGA mind worm has turned them into mindless, rabid, snake-handling, self-flagellating zealots.

Just look around and observe. The learning curve isn't that steep.

[modrepub]

33. Don't Help People That Don't Want or Appreciate It

As mean as that sounds, Democrats need to practice this.

It would be better to emphasize who's actually paying taxes and keep those taxes where they are generated. Make federal funding contingent on local/state matches. Put federal infrastructure in areas providing the most tax revenues; quit trying to stimulate areas that are inherently hostile to the federal government.

Additionally, Dems need to point out that you can't allow your local politicians a pass if you think things aren't going right. On shear numbers, there are more Republicans in public office than Democrats. But the press and Republicans always blame someone else far way (Washington, CA, NY) rather than holding themselves accountable; I think this is a reflection of the people they represent (it's never my fault that I'm miserable).

[malaise]

34. Ding ding

We have a winner

The word is appeasement, the act of giving the opposing side in an argument or war an advantage that they have demanded, in order to prevent further disagreement.

[GiqueCee]

35. You don't...

... compromise with evil. Neville Chamberlain found that out the hard way. Appeasement is surrender, and we must never, ever surrender to these malevolent traitors.

[RT_Fanatic]

36. Case in point, @SenFettermanPA

He thinks there is. And voted to confirm the puppy-killer. I campaigned for and supported him when he ran, but not again. He’s dead to me.

[Alliepoo]

37. 100% correct!

Going forward there should be no cooperation, just obstruction, period. Dems should have learned by watching maga these past several years. Use the same talking points with no deviation, obstruct at every opportunity, be outrageous and loud every day- that’s how you get the attention of the American public (unfortunately) and hopefully the attention of the sorry excuse of legacy media to get the Dem message out. Hit up all of the social media available and create some of their own. I don’t think the older politicians get it nor are they capable of/ or comfortable with doing much of this. Time to let the younger ones shine and do their thing. And sorry but that’s just being realistic, not ageist. It’s a different world and time to fight like it.

[paparush]

38. You don't vote out Fascism

They are leaving common folks no other choice but alternate means of redress.

[hadEnuf]

41. And we'd damn well better equip ourselves to do it.

At the very least to maintain that threat and deterrent.