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allegorical oracle

(6,480 posts)
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 09:36 PM Jan 2025

Axios reporting that an Exec Order signed to revamp FEMA

The order calls for the creation of a task force, dubbed the Federal Emergency Management Agency Review Council, to review FEMA and recommend changes in a report to Trump.

The group will be composed of the secretaries of homeland security and defense, along with private-sector subject matter experts, per the order.

Between the lines: The task force could recommend getting rid of the agency.

I'd point out (from experience):
--No FEMA head has yet been named;
--Tornado season typically begins around April.
-- There's usually at least 10 or more disaster recoveries in progress at all times, nationally. California is an especially complex response/recovery.
This administration essentially will be building an airplane while it's in flight. What could go wrong?

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Axios reporting that an Exec Order signed to revamp FEMA (Original Post) allegorical oracle Jan 2025 OP
Let's hope this is just bluster and will be as effective as the endless coming of infrastructure week. jls4561 Jan 2025 #1
So far this past week, he's blustered plenty, but has been a very busy boy -- sticking allegorical oracle Jan 2025 #5
With the Trump Administration, this is situation normal: all f****d up! surfered Jan 2025 #2
Honestly think FEMA needs revamping, but not to trump standards. Silent Type Jan 2025 #3
The biggest issue I have with FEMA is a lot of the Phoenix61 Jan 2025 #6
Public buildings are covered by Public Infrastructure, which is separate from assistance to allegorical oracle Jan 2025 #11
This will be yet another example of destruction RainCaster Jan 2025 #4
overwhelming number of tornados are in red states. lets just not allow FEMA to help them, that'll save $$ msongs Jan 2025 #7
They are talking to switching to block grants IbogaProject Jan 2025 #10
It's ALL about grift and enriching himself vapor2 Jan 2025 #12
FEMA being reviewed by people who like to hurt other beings. yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #8
Bring in the consultants Renew Deal Jan 2025 #9
Professional disaster consulting is an industry, itself. Following hurricane Andrew in 1992, allegorical oracle Jan 2025 #13
It absolutely will. Renew Deal Jan 2025 #14
Obvious when drumpf controls the aid it will go to MAGAt areas with drumpf signs. UTUSN Jan 2025 #15
Yep, I'm sure he wants to keep the money currently allocated to FEMA, Tanuki Jan 2025 #16
What I hear from this AXIOS report is ReRe Jan 2025 #17
This would be a serious mistake by Trump oldmanlynn Jan 2025 #18

jls4561

(3,115 posts)
1. Let's hope this is just bluster and will be as effective as the endless coming of infrastructure week.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 09:41 PM
Jan 2025

allegorical oracle

(6,480 posts)
5. So far this past week, he's blustered plenty, but has been a very busy boy -- sticking
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 09:46 PM
Jan 2025

screwdrivers into the spokes of government.

One of many things he may not realize is that FEMA doesn't just respond to the 50 states and Puerto Rico, but also to Guam, American Samoa, the Northern Marianna Islands, the Republic of the Marshall Islands, and the Federated States of Micronesia.

Phoenix61

(18,828 posts)
6. The biggest issue I have with FEMA is a lot of the
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 09:51 PM
Jan 2025

assistance to cities is reimbursement for things they have paid for. If FEMA decides what was paid isn’t a qualified expense the city is on the hook for the bill. There’s no way to prequalify a lot of the expenses.

allegorical oracle

(6,480 posts)
11. Public buildings are covered by Public Infrastructure, which is separate from assistance to
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 10:21 PM
Jan 2025

homeowners. Insurance covers some of the public infrastructure, but the qualification of uninsured public losses is always a lengthy wrangle during recovery.

Basically, the municipality receives only reimbursement for what the disaster wrecked -- roads, bridges, schools, libraries. If a public structure was already in disrepair, it likely won't be totally reimbursed. If it's a critical road or bridge, it stands a good chance of getting repair assistance. The Small Business Administration provides low interest loans to small businesses and individual homeowners. Costs are split between state and federal funding -- usually on a 25/75 basis. Huge disasters like Katrina and now California often end up in a 10/90 share or even a 100 percent federal coverage.

Is the agency as good as it good be? No. But the improvements inevitably are attempted between storms, simply because there's so many disasters that are being worked at any given time. The full time FEMA staff is only a few thousand people and is augmented by several hundred "reservists" who respond when needed.

RainCaster

(13,717 posts)
4. This will be yet another example of destruction
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 09:46 PM
Jan 2025

Trump has never improved anything. All he knows is destruction. When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

msongs

(73,754 posts)
7. overwhelming number of tornados are in red states. lets just not allow FEMA to help them, that'll save $$
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 09:59 PM
Jan 2025

IbogaProject

(5,913 posts)
10. They are talking to switching to block grants
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 10:05 PM
Jan 2025

To better allow for grift, corruption and discrimination.

yellow dahlia

(5,877 posts)
8. FEMA being reviewed by people who like to hurt other beings.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 10:01 PM
Jan 2025

Puppy Killer and a Torturer of Women

Plus - the mindset behind the mission of the military is completely different than the mindset behind the mission FEMA. But the grifter would not understand any of that. He does not live on that level of understanding.

Renew Deal

(85,151 posts)
9. Bring in the consultants
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 10:03 PM
Jan 2025

It's typical corporate BS. The consultants will tell them what they already know, and their recommendations will have no impact on the outcome. It's just an excuse to make it look like they did their due diligence.

allegorical oracle

(6,480 posts)
13. Professional disaster consulting is an industry, itself. Following hurricane Andrew in 1992,
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 10:50 PM
Jan 2025

private consulting companies popped up everywhere. Full time FEMA folks were leaving the gov't. like crazy to become consultants.

It was (I felt) a rip-off. Here's why: after a disaster the feds arrive and assess damages. Meetings begin with the town or city and state as to reimbursements. Negotiations reach agreements. Once private consulting companies entered the picture, their personnel would be hired by the town or city to make their assessment. Those were extremely costly. Negotiations would begin and funding decisions were reached.

Then FEMA would pay what it agreed PLUS the cost of the private consultants' assessment fee. So the taxpayers' bill rose considerably. One consultant I knew made enough money following a couple of disasters to purchase matching new Jaguars for himself and his wife. I hope that policy may have changed, but....

That is why I fear DJT's FEMA "do-over" may result in the privatization of the agency because disasters will become even more "grift bait" than they could be now.

Renew Deal

(85,151 posts)
14. It absolutely will.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 10:56 PM
Jan 2025

They will claim that that the studied it and privitization was the recommendation.

Tanuki

(16,448 posts)
16. Yep, I'm sure he wants to keep the money currently allocated to FEMA,
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 12:03 AM
Jan 2025

which must abide by uniform rules and regulations, and instead distribute or withhold it by executive privilege on the basis of political patronage.

oldmanlynn

(821 posts)
18. This would be a serious mistake by Trump
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 12:32 AM
Jan 2025

At some point, he’s gonna make a serious mistake. That’s gonna really hurt people in their pocketbooks and other ways and that will start opening up some eyes. then I think the Maga movement and Trump will come tumbling down in a glorious self destruction

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