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Kilgore

(1,819 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:40 AM Jan 2025

Teacher asks ICE to raid his school, says many students 'don't even speak English'

https://local12.com/amp/news/nation-world/teacher-asks-ice-to-raid-his-northside-high-school-says-many-students-dont-even-speak-english-cincinnati-president-trump-student-isd-fear-worry-anxiety-iphone-translator-probe-immigration-customs-enforcement-policy?amp_js_v=0.1&_gsa=1#webview=1

FORT WORTH, Texas (WKRC) - A substitute teacher asked ICE to raid his school in a post to social media. According to KDFW, Forth Worth Independent School District (Fort Worth ISD) has launched a probe after a substitute teacher replied to an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) post on X, asking the agency to visit a high school in Texas and remove students believed to be in the country illegally.

The outlet reported that the probe was launched Friday, when school officials became aware of the post.

The X post from the substitute teacher, who was not named in the report, reads as follows:

"Y'all should come to Fort Worth, TX to Northside High School. I have many students who don't even speak English, and they are in 10th-11th grade. They have to communicate through their iPhone translator with me. The @USEDGOV should totally overhaul our school system in Texas."

Forth Worth ISD interim superintendent Karen Molinar issued a statement obtained by KDFW, telling families that the matter was under investigation and that the district was "taking this situation very seriously and are committed to resolving it as quickly as possible."
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Teacher asks ICE to raid his school, says many students 'don't even speak English' (Original Post) Kilgore Jan 2025 OP
And, these students are criminals, how? Oh, they exist. sinkingfeeling Jan 2025 #1
Texas and they don't know what ESL is? It seems the lack of education is not limited to just students. TheBlackAdder Jan 2025 #8
In Texas . . . AverageOldGuy Jan 2025 #30
Texan enid602 Jan 2025 #57
third reich stuff n/t Henry203 Jan 2025 #2
Like when Franco begged Hitler to bomb Spain. GreenWave Jan 2025 #3
And Franco was the best of the Fascist Four (Franco, Hitler, Mussolini, Pinochet) Polybius Jan 2025 #56
This person is probably not even a certified teacher Jilly_in_VA Jan 2025 #4
A Peggy Hill! Ziggysmom Jan 2025 #35
Dang! My grands were learning to speak Spanish by immersion with their Spanish-speaking peers. Jit423 Jan 2025 #5
I know. In the southwest it's like gold to speak multiple languages. travelingthrulife Jan 2025 #19
Someone who really doesn't need to be hired by a school again...ever Maeve Jan 2025 #6
How will the students learn to speak English if they are not allowed to go to school? Midnight Writer Jan 2025 #7
Calculus Old Okie Jan 2025 #37
Jeez. As expected, American Unity is a myth. Oneironaut Jan 2025 #9
I saw a post that said, " it's depressing that folks I know, grew up with tulipsandroses Jan 2025 #34
That's the harsh reality I think. Oneironaut Jan 2025 #45
It's FORT WORTH, not Forth Worth, seems the author needs schooling MagickMuffin Jan 2025 #10
I don't get the all-caps name. niyad Jan 2025 #18
Emphasizing it's "Fort" not "Forth" Worth WheelWalker Jan 2025 #29
Oh my word, I didn't even see that, just glanced. Clearly not enough caffeine. niyad Jan 2025 #41
It is named Fort Worth not FORTH which is why I wanted to point it out MagickMuffin Jan 2025 #36
Thank you as well. That is what I get for just glancing. niyad Jan 2025 #42
I saw that, too. Once is a typo. Twice is illiteracy. DFW Jan 2025 #47
How are these high school students criminals? Diamond_Dog Jan 2025 #11
Let me give a simple explanation of why they are criminals. Ray Bruns Jan 2025 #21
MAGA considers anyone who came across without docs are criminal so they don't have to uponit7771 Jan 2025 #28
Not vetting their subs very well, are they? intheflow Jan 2025 #12
Substitute teacher -s/he doesn't care. haele Jan 2025 #15
There's A Teacher Shortage ProfessorGAC Jan 2025 #39
I'm a sub too and that person just made our lives a lot harder jmbar2 Jan 2025 #44
Absolutely Right! ProfessorGAC Jan 2025 #50
The Stasi lives again. n/t defacto7 Jan 2025 #13
Northside is Spanish speaking Comrade Citizen Jan 2025 #14
My dad used to work at a plant on the Northside. LudwigPastorius Jan 2025 #40
"Y'all"? swong19104 Jan 2025 #16
Y'all That's redneck English. It's as Amerikan as apple pie. What's yer problem? flashman13 Jan 2025 #17
I guess 'youse guys' is preferable EYESORE 9001 Jan 2025 #55
The students should be taught 1930s German to understand their new home and its ideals. Ping Tung Jan 2025 #20
If they don't speak English by 10th grade, that school has failed. NameAlreadyTaken Jan 2025 #22
How do you know when the students arrived? jaxxon20 Jan 2025 #23
So many assholes. ismnotwasm Jan 2025 #24
Until Trump, I had no idea how many truly terrible people walk among us. Initech Jan 2025 #48
What? Cirsium Jan 2025 #25
Excellent point. One would think that would be a minimal requirement. niyad Jan 2025 #43
My guess? Cirsium Jan 2025 #51
Well, as two posters pointed out (that I somehow missed) said idiot niyad Jan 2025 #52
A sub. Kid Berwyn Jan 2025 #26
Not here in texas. mwmisses4289 Jan 2025 #33
Yeah, the threat to this country and our children isn't immigrants. It's the MAGA Taliban. Initech Jan 2025 #49
Racism alive and well Deep in the Heart of Texas. Emile Jan 2025 #27
Get that monster out of the classroom. Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #31
That teacher will probably get a bonus! That's the kind of teacher they want in Tx. nt 2 Meow Momma Jan 2025 #32
Substitute Judas. Klarkashton Jan 2025 #38
This teacher should be served his walking papers. Initech Jan 2025 #46
Or maybe they've figured out how to avoid having to talk to the creepy teacher. RockRaven Jan 2025 #53
One of those "Good Americans". Solly Mack Jan 2025 #54
Translation: "I really don't give a damn about children" struggle4progress Jan 2025 #58
Disgusting POS does not belong in a school ecstatic Jan 2025 #59

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
8. Texas and they don't know what ESL is? It seems the lack of education is not limited to just students.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:54 AM
Jan 2025

AverageOldGuy

(3,835 posts)
30. In Texas . . .
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:06 PM
Jan 2025

. . . the Anglos speak Texan, they are the ones who need ESL -- the Hispanic folks speak decent English.

Polybius

(21,900 posts)
56. And Franco was the best of the Fascist Four (Franco, Hitler, Mussolini, Pinochet)
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 02:17 PM
Jan 2025

Shows you just how bad the other three were.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,371 posts)
4. This person is probably not even a certified teacher
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:46 AM
Jan 2025

Texas has some pretty loose standards, and even looser for subs. Besides, since, they're not named, how do we know they're even a teacher at all?

Jit423

(1,568 posts)
5. Dang! My grands were learning to speak Spanish by immersion with their Spanish-speaking peers.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:47 AM
Jan 2025

They were doing great too. They even teaching me the language at home. Oh, well...i guess i will just have to take a class now.

travelingthrulife

(5,179 posts)
19. I know. In the southwest it's like gold to speak multiple languages.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 12:38 PM
Jan 2025

What better way to learn than by immersion with peers.

Midnight Writer

(25,410 posts)
7. How will the students learn to speak English if they are not allowed to go to school?
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:53 AM
Jan 2025

Many students don't understand calculus either.

Old Okie

(221 posts)
37. Calculus
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:20 PM
Jan 2025

I am 80 and don't understand calculus; math challenged and gave up or lost interest after algebra.

Oneironaut

(6,299 posts)
9. Jeez. As expected, American Unity is a myth.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:57 AM
Jan 2025

Last edited Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:27 PM - Edit history (2)

We’re no less willing to rat each other out than citizens in Nazi Germany. We’ll look on in glee as our fellow countrymen get dragged away, because it makes us feel that much more powerful. “At least I’m not them!”

American Exceptionalism my ass.

edit - Oops. Funny typo. “Rat”

tulipsandroses

(8,251 posts)
34. I saw a post that said, " it's depressing that folks I know, grew up with
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:17 PM
Jan 2025

I wouldn’t tell them where Anne Frank was hiding”
That’s 1/3 of Ameria - they would have turned her in.

Oneironaut

(6,299 posts)
45. That's the harsh reality I think.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:32 PM
Jan 2025

Another 1/3 also probably would not care either way, and, would prefer to just stay out of everything.

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
10. It's FORT WORTH, not Forth Worth, seems the author needs schooling
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:57 AM
Jan 2025

For what it’s worth Northside High School is predominantly Mexican Americans.

And that substitute teacher is a racist and coward!

I read about this yesterday from Rep. Marc Vaesey on fb. He isn’t very pleased with this news.





niyad

(132,440 posts)
41. Oh my word, I didn't even see that, just glanced. Clearly not enough caffeine.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:25 PM
Jan 2025

Thank you!

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
36. It is named Fort Worth not FORTH which is why I wanted to point it out
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:18 PM
Jan 2025


The article apparently didn’t bother to correct the 2 typos of the correct spelling of a city!


DFW

(60,186 posts)
47. I saw that, too. Once is a typo. Twice is illiteracy.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:34 PM
Jan 2025

People who can't even get a four letter word in English right are reporting on substitute teachers smugly turning in schoolchildren?

Diamond_Dog

(40,575 posts)
11. How are these high school students criminals?
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:59 AM
Jan 2025

My heart breaks for all the good people getting screwed by this ugly orange ogre.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
28. MAGA considers anyone who came across without docs are criminal so they don't have to
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:02 PM
Jan 2025

... commit additional crimes other than being undocumented.

Their probable cause for undocumented doesn't go past skin color as TFG said "... you'll know.."

intheflow

(30,179 posts)
12. Not vetting their subs very well, are they?
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:00 AM
Jan 2025

Dude sounds like a real genius. "Hey, come here and close this school that just hired me That'll teach those illegals! Oh, and hey, do you know of any schools that are hiring teachers?"

haele

(15,399 posts)
15. Substitute teacher -s/he doesn't care.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:13 AM
Jan 2025

Probably boosting up the resume to eventually get a prime teaching job for good little drones at a Christian Nationalist charter skool.

ProfessorGAC

(76,703 posts)
39. There's A Teacher Shortage
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:23 PM
Jan 2025

In most any state we could name.
If that sub was qualified for a full-time gig, they'd probably have one.
I'm a sub, and 90% of the subs I know do not have the credentials to be a certified teacher.
Geez, I have 5 college degrees & I couldn't be certified. (Not that I want a full-time assignment.)
That sub is probably more much more like Mr than what you're describing.

jmbar2

(7,989 posts)
44. I'm a sub too and that person just made our lives a lot harder
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:32 PM
Jan 2025

Our school population is dropping. No stats yet to know if the Spanish speaking kids are disappearing, but possible.

What a horrible thing to do to kids no matter what language they speak.

ProfessorGAC

(76,703 posts)
50. Absolutely Right!
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:46 PM
Jan 2025

I did a class which was a transitional ESL math thing.
Some of the students were fully bilingual. Some barely could speak English.
I got the feeling some of the fluent bilingual kids were in that class to help those with lesser English skills. They clearly could have been in regular math classes.
Anyway, since numbers are numbers I could still help some. But, I didn't feel like I could help enough. I wouldn't take that class again. Not because of their lack of English skills, but because of my lack of Spanish skills.

Comrade Citizen

(344 posts)
14. Northside is Spanish speaking
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:07 AM
Jan 2025

Of course they speak Spanish, the Northside of Fort Worth is Mexican. We actually consider it the most Texan part of Fort Worth since they have been here forever. North of the Northside are new suburbs filled with magat gringo invaders.

LudwigPastorius

(14,725 posts)
40. My dad used to work at a plant on the Northside.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:24 PM
Jan 2025

He knew where all the great little hole in the wall Mexican food places were.

And, he used to take me and my brother to a hispanic barbershop there to get our haircuts.
The old barber there called both of us ‘leetle brother’.

Good memories.

flashman13

(2,403 posts)
17. Y'all That's redneck English. It's as Amerikan as apple pie. What's yer problem?
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 12:34 PM
Jan 2025

I recon ya need to go over yonder to learn some a dat English. Y'all!

jaxxon20

(25 posts)
23. How do you know when the students arrived?
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 12:54 PM
Jan 2025

How can you say "if they don't speak english by the tenth grade?" They could be recent migrants. As far as the original poster, they don't speak english either since they started their post with "Y'all"

Initech

(108,783 posts)
48. Until Trump, I had no idea how many truly terrible people walk among us.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:35 PM
Jan 2025

Now he's pulled their masks off and they are free to wave their middle finger and inner asshole at the world.

Cirsium

(3,943 posts)
25. What?
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 12:58 PM
Jan 2025

That teacher is working at Northside High School and he can't even speak Spanish?? He has to use an app on his IPhone to translate?? Outrageous.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
52. Well, as two posters pointed out (that I somehow missed) said idiot
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:53 PM
Jan 2025

cannot spell, so you are correct.

mwmisses4289

(4,186 posts)
33. Not here in texas.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:13 PM
Jan 2025

Teacher shortage due to christian taliban is so bad that texas loosened it requirements for subs: I believe subs only need a ged or high school diploma and pass a background check.

Initech

(108,783 posts)
49. Yeah, the threat to this country and our children isn't immigrants. It's the MAGA Taliban.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:37 PM
Jan 2025

The church has completely become utterly repulsive and unrecognizable in the last 15 years. Hell, the last 30. I'm glad I was able to escape when I did and I don't regret my decision one bit.

Initech

(108,783 posts)
46. This teacher should be served his walking papers.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 01:34 PM
Jan 2025

Yeah, and the Nazis were just following orders.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
59. Disgusting POS does not belong in a school
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 03:25 PM
Jan 2025

He thinks it's ok to risk children being harmed in an armed raid.

Why?

Maybe it hasn't occurred to him that he could end up being the one who is "accidentally" shot and killed during a raid.

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