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Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:22 PM Jan 2025

Trump: people with severe intellectual disabilities" had been hired as air traffic controllers

Jan. 30, 11:30 a.m. ESTTrump, in a press briefing, boasted about an executive order he issued last week ending diversity, equity and inclusion hiring within the Federal Aviation Administration, and suggested without proof that people with “severe intellectual disabilities” had been hired as air traffic controllers under the Obama and Biden administrations. He said only “naturally talented geniuses” would be hired for the job under his new policies. He later said “we don’t know that necessarily (the crash) is even the controller’s fault.”

When asked how he could have determined diversity hiring practices were to blame for the crash without evidence, Trump said, “because I have common sense. And, unfortunately, a lot of people don’t.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2025/01/30/dc-plane-crash-live-updates-trump-criticizes-faas-dei-hiring-policies-and-suggests-without-evidence-they-could-be-to-blame/

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Trump: people with severe intellectual disabilities" had been hired as air traffic controllers (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jan 2025 OP
Don't know about that, but I do know that one with 'severe intellectual disabilities' is in the White House. sinkingfeeling Jan 2025 #1
Then maybe a sickout is in order? HAB911 Jan 2025 #2
No Rebl2 Jan 2025 #57
Exactly what I would like to see happen HAB911 Jan 2025 #58
He just snowybirdie Jan 2025 #3
For all, we know, it could've been been a mechanical problem for crying out loud Walleye Jan 2025 #4
Well, I suppose that VMA131Marine Jan 2025 #9
You're probably right, but my point was we don't know for sure. Why is it being politicized? Walleye Jan 2025 #11
Because he knows he fucked up by firing the head of TSA iemanja Jan 2025 #15
When he Codifer Jan 2025 #21
Heard the comms between Blackhawk and tower orangecrush Jan 2025 #46
I think that's likely... VMA131Marine Jan 2025 #54
Looks like it. orangecrush Jan 2025 #59
Common sense tells him someone with severe disabilities caused the crash? Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #5
Well it's true durablend Jan 2025 #20
I was going to add that. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #22
Racism/sexism is "common sense". Solly Mack Jan 2025 #6
I think the people hired a president with severe intellectual disabilities. surfered Jan 2025 #7
Where is our "liberal media?" Botany Jan 2025 #8
He'll just come up with some bullshit sakabatou Jan 2025 #10
And in Fox News, Radio Hate Talkers, and right wing web sites will spread the lie as a truth. Botany Jan 2025 #16
It's a Trump policy from April 2019 Nevilledog Jan 2025 #50
people with severe intellectual disabilities are now running the white house. nt yaesu Jan 2025 #12
If you know that as a fact, it is your responsibility to identify and fire them. Norrrm Jan 2025 #13
The white hoods are out in the open now. Kingofalldems Jan 2025 #14
And JD and Hegseth followed up with "DEI", "merit based" backup Demovictory9 Jan 2025 #24
Got that right orangecrush Jan 2025 #47
Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen Raven123 Jan 2025 #17
He just described himself demosincebirth Jan 2025 #18
Experts listening to the tape and seeing the video say it is not the ATC's fault obamanut2012 Jan 2025 #19
Apparently, brain worm is infectious C_U_L8R Jan 2025 #23
Brain worm cruelty jaxxon20 Jan 2025 #37
Oh, my. This is getting just plain bizarre. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2025 #25
Blame it on the weakest. I believe Hitler did the same. spanone Jan 2025 #26
What he said is despicable. If it turns out all the controllers, the helicopter pilot and trainee are all straight white tulipsandroses Jan 2025 #27
he's saying all women and minorities have "severe intellectual disabilities" unblock Jan 2025 #28
Then how do you explain no plane accidents for at least 10 years no_hypocrisy Jan 2025 #29
When Trump's sense becomes common... lame54 Jan 2025 #30
Vile POS Lars39 Jan 2025 #31
I'm sure all the air traffic controllers really appreciate being told they have "intellectual disabilities" Takket Jan 2025 #32
What a load of crap. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2025 #33
No they don't. They all get talked into running for Republican seats and Congress. yourout Jan 2025 #34
We know "severe intellectual disabilities" and it "ain't" Ritabert Jan 2025 #35
It has common sense?!? mwmisses4289 Jan 2025 #36
The airport traffic controllers were understaffed at the time of the office LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2025 #38
The "drown the government in a bath tub" crowd strikes again. GoCubsGo Jan 2025 #42
Sez someone with a severe mental disability! ananda Jan 2025 #39
TFG is lying to deflect his responsibility for this accident LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2025 #40
More projection. GoCubsGo Jan 2025 #41
The President is a buffoon. GoodRaisin Jan 2025 #43
Trump Rebl2 Jan 2025 #44
The FAA under Trump had virtually identical language and hiring practices. Ms. Toad Jan 2025 #45
Well, why not? mysuzuki2 Jan 2025 #48
"Common Sense" Kid Berwyn Jan 2025 #49
He has severe intellectual disabilities malaise Jan 2025 #51
STFU..... Lovie777 Jan 2025 #52
Yeah, well the morons in this country elected someone louis-t Jan 2025 #53
Can you kacekwl Jan 2025 #55
That's Rebl2 Jan 2025 #56

sinkingfeeling

(57,773 posts)
1. Don't know about that, but I do know that one with 'severe intellectual disabilities' is in the White House.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:24 PM
Jan 2025

Rebl2

(17,686 posts)
57. No
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 12:18 PM
Jan 2025

If they do that he will pull a Ronald Regan and fire all that do that. It will cripple the airline industry.

Walleye

(44,669 posts)
4. For all, we know, it could've been been a mechanical problem for crying out loud
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:26 PM
Jan 2025

He keeps saying common sense. So is it common sense to elect a pathological liar and a convicted felon to the presidency. Doesn’t strike me as common sense.

VMA131Marine

(5,266 posts)
9. Well, I suppose that
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:31 PM
Jan 2025

The spinning rotors of the Blackhawk helicopter intersecting with the fuselage of the regional jet could be considered a mechanical problem …

But it hardly caused the accident.

I’m afraid the cause of the mishap is going to largely come down to the crew of the Blackhawk not seeing g and avoid the American flight as that was there responsibility. There will most likely be contributing factors that put the two aircraft on a collision course in the first place.

I, for one, do not want to fly in an environment where ATC is populated by people hired strictly for their loyalty to Trump.

Walleye

(44,669 posts)
11. You're probably right, but my point was we don't know for sure. Why is it being politicized?
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:34 PM
Jan 2025

iemanja

(57,750 posts)
15. Because he knows he fucked up by firing the head of TSA
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:36 PM
Jan 2025

and shutting down the safety committee.

Codifer

(1,205 posts)
21. When he
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:48 PM
Jan 2025

de-regulates everything every plane trip will be a wild surprise party.

Won't that be fun.

Oh, and don't drink the water.

orangecrush

(30,154 posts)
46. Heard the comms between Blackhawk and tower
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 09:34 PM
Jan 2025

Blackhawk said it had visual on plane.

Most likely pilot had visual on the wrong plane, according to retired pilot analyst .

VMA131Marine

(5,266 posts)
54. I think that's likely...
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 11:30 AM
Jan 2025

But the Blackhawk was also well above the 200 ft maximum altitude for that corridor. Without that deviation the accident would not have occurred.

Was it common practice by military flights to bust the altitude restriction? I guess we will find out.

orangecrush

(30,154 posts)
59. Looks like it.
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 01:20 PM
Jan 2025

BTw, I once worked with 3 Marine Corps gentlemen who were in aviation. Two were helicopter mechanics, one was a door gunner in I Corps in Vietnam. I typed up a request for his discharge papers so he could apply for veterans programs. (This was in the 80's.)

I had the misfortune of being the clerk in this particular garage. You know what happened - non stop practical jokes.

Good times.

Solly Mack

(96,899 posts)
6. Racism/sexism is "common sense".
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:28 PM
Jan 2025

Typical white supremacist.

Some ignorant bullshit white supremacists have been spouting for decades.


Botany

(77,231 posts)
8. Where is our "liberal media?"
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:30 PM
Jan 2025

Ask Trump to give one solid example of people with “severe intellectual disabilities” being hired as air traffic controllers.

sakabatou

(46,095 posts)
10. He'll just come up with some bullshit
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:32 PM
Jan 2025

Picking a name out of a hat, or pointing to a dedicated, well trained, and normal officer.

Botany

(77,231 posts)
16. And in Fox News, Radio Hate Talkers, and right wing web sites will spread the lie as a truth.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:39 PM
Jan 2025

See Hillary Clinton and her emails or w bush & Dick Cheney and their misinformation about
Saddam having WMDs so we could steal their oil and Dick Cheney could become a billionaire
on Halliburton/KBR no bid cost plus contracts.

C_U_L8R

(49,344 posts)
23. Apparently, brain worm is infectious
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:50 PM
Jan 2025

And the White House is suffering quite an infestation.

leftyladyfrommo

(19,986 posts)
25. Oh, my. This is getting just plain bizarre.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 03:22 PM
Jan 2025

It really is like watching a movie about spies and counter spies. Every day gets worse.

I feel a giant clusterfuck coming on.

tulipsandroses

(8,245 posts)
27. What he said is despicable. If it turns out all the controllers, the helicopter pilot and trainee are all straight white
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 03:30 PM
Jan 2025

men, will he stand by that statement?
It is beyond disgusting that instead of consoling the nation, he's spewing bigoted garbage.

unblock

(56,182 posts)
28. he's saying all women and minorities have "severe intellectual disabilities"
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 03:30 PM
Jan 2025

and he'll judge if people are "naturally talented geniuses" based on the whiteness of their skin.

that's all the data he has to go on, so that has to be it.

Takket

(23,697 posts)
32. I'm sure all the air traffic controllers really appreciate being told they have "intellectual disabilities"
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 03:37 PM
Jan 2025

greatauntoftriplets

(178,941 posts)
33. What a load of crap.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 03:37 PM
Jan 2025

Hmmm. Does the DC air traffic control direct Air Force One when the asshole flies?

yourout

(8,803 posts)
34. No they don't. They all get talked into running for Republican seats and Congress.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 03:43 PM
Jan 2025

Or the Senate or the presidency or the SCOTUS

Ritabert

(2,379 posts)
35. We know "severe intellectual disabilities" and it "ain't"
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 03:46 PM
Jan 2025

....air traffic controllers. They go through rigorous screening and training. My mother was an air traffic controller for the Navy in WWII and later Pan Am and was extremely competent.

mwmisses4289

(4,030 posts)
36. It has common sense?!?
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 03:48 PM
Jan 2025

Excuse me while i
It wouldn't know common sense if it bit him on his ample butt!

GoCubsGo

(34,886 posts)
41. More projection.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 09:09 PM
Jan 2025

The ones with "severe intellectual disabilities" are himself and every last one of the people surrounding him. Fuck that fucking fuck.

GoodRaisin

(10,878 posts)
43. The President is a buffoon.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 09:14 PM
Jan 2025

He takes every opportunity to reinforce this unfortunate reality. He did it again today.

Ms. Toad

(38,558 posts)
45. The FAA under Trump had virtually identical language and hiring practices.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 09:33 PM
Jan 2025

From a page near the end of Trump's first term (December 2020): https://web.archive.org/web/20201208125057/https:/www.faa.gov/jobs/diversity_inclusion/

Fact checking: https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/30/politics/faa-disability-hiring-trump-fact-check/index.html

The Trump-era FAA had the same language on its website: The FAA’s language encouraging the hiring of people with disabilities, including intellectual and psychiatric disabilities, was featured on the agency’s website throughout Trump’s first presidency and at least as far back as 2013, as the fact-check website Snopes has previously reported. You can click here for the version of the web page captured by the Internet Archive in December 2020, the last full month of Trump’s first term.

The Trump-era FAA also pushed to hire people with disabilities: The federal government passed a law in 1973 that aimed to increase federal hiring of qualified people with disabilities. Like other government agencies, the Department of Transportation, which oversees the FAA, had pushed since at least the George W. Bush administration to increase its hiring of people with certain “targeted disabilities” that create extra barriers to employment. Those include not only intellectual and psychiatric disabilities, but also deafness, blindness, paralysis and missing extremities.

mysuzuki2

(3,580 posts)
48. Well, why not?
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 10:35 AM
Jan 2025

Since we hired a person with severe intellectual disabilities to be president

louis-t

(24,611 posts)
53. Yeah, well the morons in this country elected someone
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 11:23 AM
Jan 2025

with severe intellectual disabilities.

kacekwl

(9,126 posts)
55. Can you
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 12:16 PM
Jan 2025

imagine if any previous president held a press conference and said the things trump said. The calls for immediate resignation would be non-stop. Headline news for days. Not this asshole once again he gets a free pass. These day of course this would only apply to a democrat.

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