about DEI and economy

[Marthe48]

I don't know if rwnj jobs are aiming for total exclusion of POC and other minorities, or a return to separate but equal.
The US can't defend itself with an all white army, not enough recruits-not the age, not the fitness, not the committment. The lowlifes in private militias won't meet the standard. If there is a return to separate but equal, there will have to be 2 of each arm of the military. That is not cost effective and I have suspected for a long time that phasing out that kind of separation because of cost was a driving force in combining the forces we had in WWII, WWII and probably the Civil War.

If separate but equal is the plan, POC and other minorities will have to create medical facilities, schools, public fixtures, and again, anything that is paid for by taxes, will have the white one and the one for everyone else. That is not cost effective.

If total exclusion is the plan, whites can say goodbye to all of the pleasures diversity brings. Whites can say goodbye to a robust military, lower taxes, and more inconvience as POC and other minorities withdraw their support from the employment base, withhold their knowledge, and move on with lives full of shared resources, and even joy.

I think DEI wasn't just about hiring policies. I think it was a learning tool to help complete idiots understand how to get along with other people. Because it is cheaper for a company to run one store for all people, and to have a diverse workforce, it is cost effective. But we're dealing with rwnj who fuel their plans with hate and racism, so I shouldn't expect that there is any vision or intelligence driving the plunge over the cliff.

[sop]

1. DEI is a reaction to the reality the US will become 'minority white' by 2045, and young minorities are the engine

of future growth.

(Brookings) "New census population projections confirm the importance of racial minorities as the primary demographic engine of the nation’s future growth, countering an aging, slow-growing and soon to be declining white population. The new statistics project that the nation will become 'minority white' in 2045. During that year, whites will comprise 49.7 percent of the population in contrast to 24.6 percent for Hispanics, 13.1 percent for blacks, 7.9 percent for Asians, and 3.8 percent for multiracial populations."

"The shift is the result of two trends. First, between 2018 and 2060, gains will continue in the combined racial minority populations, growing by 74 percent. Second, during this time frame, the aging white population will see a modest immediate gain through 2024, and then experience a long-term decline through 2060, a consequence of more deaths than births."

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-will-become-minority-white-in-2045-census-projects/

This fact is interesting: "...during this time frame, the aging white population will see a modest immediate gain through 2024, then experience a long-term decline through 2060..." It appears America is at peak white right now, the future will all be downhill for aging white supremacists. DEI and Trumpism represent their last best hope before they literally ride off into the sunset.

[Johnny2X2X]

2. I view DEI a little differently than most

I view DEI as a way to make sure you're hiring the most qualified and capable people rather than just a bunch of mediocre white guys.

But people have blind spots around hiring practices. People are more comfortable working along side people with similar backgrounds and who think similarily to them. They overvalue these traits, so they miss the more valuable input from someone who is coming from a different place and different train of thought. People are more likely to overlook a key contribution if it's not a contribution they could have thought of.

The corporate world is still dominated by straight white males. As a straight white male in the corporate world, I try to be keenly aware of the advantages my background has given me at the same time I try to actively look for differing opinions and more unfamiliar ways of thinking. Being to set in your ways is a major handicap and companies that understand this is search for more diverse leaders have qa competitive advantage.

Companies get this, DEI isn't just a politically correct term to most corporations, it's a way of strengthening the company's bottom line. It's a way of developing new markets and technologies, recognizing new threats and opportunities, and being better for changing business conditions. The companies getting rid of their DEI programs are mostly just not calling it DEI anymore, but will still be striving for the best possible mix of people. The companies who really want to go back to just hiring the same mediocre white males will be at a competitive disadvantage in the long run.

[sop]

3. Geneticists might refer to this (e.g., an over-population of mediocre white guys) as "the drag of the breed."

The undesirable traits of too many mediocre white males, or the genetic weaknesses prevalent within a closed gene pool, can "drag down" the overall quality of the entire population. Much like genetic diversity produces superior offspring in nature, "the best possible mix of people" in a workplace strengthens the company's bottom line.

[Johnny2X2X]

5. I think it's just better to have a diverse team with more diverse strengths

And the perception is sometimes a battle too. People overestimate their performance and underestimate the performance of those different from them. I've been part of many teams, I know from experience that often times teams that seemingly are running smoothly aren't really hitting their metrics like they should, and some of the other teams making more noise and having more conflict are surpassing their metrics.

People don't want to have someone different from them come up with a new approach to a problem, they often fail to see the truth that the new approach is simply and objectively better.

I've had teams that everyone just thought was running like a fine tuned machine and those teams were celebrated, but they really missed milestones, spent too much, and just underperformed. And one team I was on was ruffling feathers non stop. Always asking why are we doing things this way when we can do it faster and cheaper by doing this. The perception of that team was that it was a disaster, but at the end of the day it finished on time, under budget, and delivered a huge profit margin to the company. But if you ask people not in the know, they'd say of the poor performing project, "Oh man, that project was just great, everyone got along, no problems, just smooth sailing the whole time, that's how things should be run." And they'd say of the turbulent, but over performing project, "OMG, what a total disaster, it was just one thing after another with that team. They never operated smoothly."

[cachukis]

4. The fear of being inferior on display.

[Voltaire2]

6. it's DEI-PANIC that is the problem, not DEI. nt.

[JustAnotherGen]

7. One more element

Black folks will be paying taxes for the white only facilities and have to fund their own facilities under charitable contributions.

Unless - UNLESS this time we pay a much lower tax rate.

Don't believe me? My paternal grandfather paid the wealth tax in the 1950's but still managed to build a state of the art school for his kids during that same time period. That how it works, has been done in the past etc etc.

I think a 2% maximum tax rate is fair for Black Americans. 1% if you descend from ancestors who paid during the Jim Crow regime.

It's fair.

Also this where People of Color gets separated out from Black Americans. After the slap in the face from so-called model minorities and other white adjacent non whites -

They are on their own. They shouldn't benefit from the inherited trauma "know how" of surviving a hostile regime.