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bigtree

(94,265 posts)
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 05:17 PM Jan 2025

If a picture is usually worth a thousand words, this one is worth millions.

Last edited Fri Jan 31, 2025, 07:41 PM - Edit history (2)

Zach W. Lambert @ZachWLambert 4h
This photograph was taken two days ago at the FBI Academy in Quantico and submitted to the NYT under the condition of anonymity.

If a picture is usually worth a thousand words, this one is worth millions.





A photograph provided to The New York Times shows a glimpse of some of the changes underway at the F.B.I., specifically the F.B.I. Academy at Quantico on Wednesday.

source: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/30/us/kash-patel-fbi-confirmation-hearing



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If a picture is usually worth a thousand words, this one is worth millions. (Original Post) bigtree Jan 2025 OP
Worth a million words... 3catwoman3 Jan 2025 #1
Orange. rubbersole Jan 2025 #12
😭 Deuxcents Jan 2025 #2
"Leadership, Integrity, Fairness, Cooperativeness, Initiative, Respect," etc LeftinOH Jan 2025 #3
Replaced by..... SergeStorms Jan 2025 #13
Too woke. sop Jan 2025 #17
Is there no one at any level of law enforcement who will stand up to Agent Orange? Magoo48 Jan 2025 #28
That's an incredibly powerful and significant image. sop Jan 2025 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Jan 2025 #20
No paint tray, tiny drop cloth, not the clothes of a painter. rzemanfl Jan 2025 #5
Eh, I wouldn't be so quick to doubt it. BruceWane Jan 2025 #6
Never saw one of those. rzemanfl Jan 2025 #10
After being overwhelmed PatSeg Jan 2025 #22
Neil deGrasse Tyson predicts the end of the internet kkmarie Feb 2025 #49
I know I've reached a saturation point PatSeg Feb 2025 #55
Its fake. johnnyfins Jan 2025 #14
Good eye! SergeStorms Jan 2025 #19
it's from a NYT article bigtree Jan 2025 #24
it's from a NYT article bigtree Jan 2025 #25
very observant NJCher Jan 2025 #7
I doubt NYT posted this to fool you bigtree Jan 2025 #23
Also.... BruceWane Jan 2025 #8
IT'S FROM A NYT ARTICLE bigtree Jan 2025 #21
In other words ... soldierant Jan 2025 #32
If they show it and they aren't debunking its authenticity in the same article, they are in essence claiming it's real. W_HAMILTON Jan 2025 #34
you have no proof, but you're positing that what you've imagined is truth bigtree Jan 2025 #35
Plus something seems off with the wall hanging KS Toronado Feb 2025 #47
Even if the picture is fake kacekwl Feb 2025 #53
That is very true. rzemanfl Feb 2025 #54
Forget the wall, look up at the ceiling and then compare both pics........ Bengus81 Feb 2025 #58
Yes, the ceiling vent is in a different place in relation to the tiles. rzemanfl Feb 2025 #59
That's just horrible. What the hell 😡 TommieMommy Jan 2025 #9
Preparing for kash patel Number9Dream Jan 2025 #11
Vile... FirstLight Jan 2025 #15
I'm scared too Pachamama Jan 2025 #29
yea, I'm in CA and feel a little buffer but still... FirstLight Feb 2025 #45
I watched the Kash Patel hearings. pfitz59 Jan 2025 #16
Hopefully the students..... SergeStorms Jan 2025 #18
I know there are good people out there of all ages.... electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #41
American values disappear in front of our eyes. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #26
Cue Gordon Gecko.. BattleRow Jan 2025 #30
A nation of sociopaths. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #31
More like "Greed is God" n/t ReRe Feb 2025 #46
We still have Plenty of people Not like that! Unfortunately not enough people voted for x reasons, and damn them! electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #42
. BoRaGard Jan 2025 #27
Surprised they didn't use red paint. Bristlecone Jan 2025 #33
Good luck to all the white dudes that are going to try to blend in with those terrorist cells. chowder66 Jan 2025 #36
Just like the Trump administration, ugly and gray n/t PatrickforB Jan 2025 #37
Next up a photo of Muck throwing the Heil Hitler salute to our nation, asshole. BradBo Jan 2025 #38
Fuck 'em all. They get off on rolling back the last 60 years. We will fight and they can go to hell. Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #39
Yep Figarosmom Jan 2025 #40
The want our lunch money, now! Tweedy Feb 2025 #44
Integrity ..... integrity just has to go per the GOP Tweedy Feb 2025 #43
Kick dalton99a Feb 2025 #48
1984 arrived a bit late Attilatheblond Feb 2025 #50
That's so fucking sad. Ocelot II Feb 2025 #51
The NYT may have been duped. madaboutharry Feb 2025 #52
Did the Navy have surplus battleship gray paint? greatauntoftriplets Feb 2025 #56
As a nation we no longer believe in those values. Might as well paint them over. Wingus Dingus Feb 2025 #57

LeftinOH

(5,648 posts)
3. "Leadership, Integrity, Fairness, Cooperativeness, Initiative, Respect," etc
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 05:27 PM
Jan 2025

...those are all bad things now.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
13. Replaced by.....
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 06:10 PM
Jan 2025

greed, bullying, deceit, hate, suspicion, and superiority, by order of his assholiness, Donald J. Trump. 🫅

Magoo48

(6,721 posts)
28. Is there no one at any level of law enforcement who will stand up to Agent Orange?
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 07:00 PM
Jan 2025

Appeasement is ugly; it stinks. It never works. Appeasement is the way of grovelers, whiners, and worm tongued, ass kissers.

sop

(18,626 posts)
4. That's an incredibly powerful and significant image.
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 05:27 PM
Jan 2025

I keep thinking the maintenance worker should have used his paint roller to form a swastika as he covered over the words with that dull gray color.

Response to sop (Reply #4)

BruceWane

(384 posts)
6. Eh, I wouldn't be so quick to doubt it.
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 05:41 PM
Jan 2025

You don't have to use a tray. Pro painters usually use a grid that is hung on the inside of the bucket, like this.

And as long as you're not going wild with your roller, you don't need much of a drop cloth when you're painting a wall.

Also, if that was photoshopped, they were pretty meticulous to get the reflection on the floor correct (includes the edges already trimmed in, etc).

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
22. After being overwhelmed
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 06:38 PM
Jan 2025

with AI images on social media, I've become skeptical of most photographs.

Unfortunately, AI will get better and in the near future, most people won't know what is real and what is fake. It will go way beyond Facebook memes. We should be very concerned.

kkmarie

(340 posts)
49. Neil deGrasse Tyson predicts the end of the internet
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 05:40 AM
Feb 2025

Reading some posts here I think we are all becoming fatigued with trying to figure out if a statement is true or a picture is AI or manipulated. Short video

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
55. I know I've reached a saturation point
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 10:52 AM
Feb 2025

with AI on the Internet and I'm even questioning if that video sounds like Neil deGrasse Tyson.

johnnyfins

(3,768 posts)
14. Its fake.
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 06:14 PM
Jan 2025

Enlarge it. There is a halo around the left side of his body. Tell tale sign of Photoshop fuckery(not by a pro). I am a pro. This is weak sauce.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
19. Good eye!
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 06:34 PM
Jan 2025

I didn't notice that until I expanded the view. I'm sure that picture is being circulated by every right-wing zealot in the country. I'm not, however, accusing the OP of being a right-wing zealot. I certainly would have accepted it as a sign of the fascist Trump administration if not for your keen eye.

bigtree

(94,265 posts)
24. it's from a NYT article
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 06:43 PM
Jan 2025

...part of a report about the Patel hearing.

.A photograph provided to The New York Times shows a glimpse of some of the changes underway at the F.B.I., specifically the F.B.I. Academy at Quantico on Wednesday.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/30/us/kash-patel-fbi-confirmation-hearing

Let's not be our own false info outlet.

bigtree

(94,265 posts)
25. it's from a NYT article
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 06:47 PM
Jan 2025

...and you have no actual proof that it's something other than what NYT says it is.

...A photograph provided to The New York Times shows a glimpse of some of the changes underway at the F.B.I., specifically the F.B.I. Academy at Quantico on Wednesday.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/30/us/kash-patel-fbi-confirmation-hearing

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
7. very observant
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 05:41 PM
Jan 2025

I might not have noted had you not posted this.

I think this is an apt metaphor for the times. Some thoughtful words, arranged artistically, being covered by drab grey paint.

Oh, and by a white guy, too.

bigtree

(94,265 posts)
23. I doubt NYT posted this to fool you
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 06:41 PM
Jan 2025

...possible, but it's part of a report about Patel's confirmation.

Caption says this image was taken at Quantico.


...A photograph provided to The New York Times shows a glimpse of some of the changes underway at the F.B.I., specifically the F.B.I. Academy at Quantico on Wednesday.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/30/us/kash-patel-fbi-confirmation-hearing (toward the bottom of the article)

BruceWane

(384 posts)
8. Also....
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 05:44 PM
Jan 2025

Also, it's no big deal to get a few, or even a lot, of paint drops on a terrazzo floor like that. It just wipes right off. If that was carpet, he'd have a much bigger drop cloth.

bigtree

(94,265 posts)
21. IT'S FROM A NYT ARTICLE
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 06:38 PM
Jan 2025

...but thanks for playing.

A photograph provided to The New York Times shows a glimpse of some of the changes underway at the F.B.I., specifically the F.B.I. Academy at Quantico on Wednesday.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/30/us/kash-patel-fbi-confirmation-hearing

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
32. In other words ...
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 07:23 PM
Jan 2025

the Times is not even claiming it's real. "A photograph provided to the New York Timwe." "PROVIDED" by whom? under what circumstances? If it was provided by a reliable source under conditions of anonymity, they might have said so.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
34. If they show it and they aren't debunking its authenticity in the same article, they are in essence claiming it's real.
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 07:31 PM
Jan 2025

I know NYT has gone to shit lately, but even I don't think they've sunk so low as to allow a fake photoshopped photo make it through their editing process...

bigtree

(94,265 posts)
35. you have no proof, but you're positing that what you've imagined is truth
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 07:34 PM
Jan 2025

...you need proof, and you need more than your word.

It's your accusation. Prove it with something more than conjecture.

Until then, asserting on a public forum that it's fake is misinformation. It just is.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
47. Plus something seems off with the wall hanging
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 02:24 AM
Feb 2025

Did he roll around it or hang it back up on still wet paint?

Bengus81

(10,165 posts)
58. Forget the wall, look up at the ceiling and then compare both pics........
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 11:48 AM
Feb 2025

They're DIFFERENT.

rzemanfl

(31,379 posts)
59. Yes, the ceiling vent is in a different place in relation to the tiles.
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 01:50 PM
Feb 2025

Thank you for noticing that. I failed to.

FirstLight

(15,771 posts)
15. Vile...
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 06:17 PM
Jan 2025

I no longer want to be a part of this world. I'm scared of where we're going. And I'm too sick and disabled to fucking take care of myself. If I lose my medicine or my medical coverage and I'm just going to off myself because I can't live like that. It's bad enough as it is in between shots. I'm so distraught today I didn't need to see this

Pachamama

(17,564 posts)
29. I'm scared too
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 07:00 PM
Jan 2025

I’m not disabled or sick md yet this has been making me sick.

I’m not sure where you live - but at least I feel in my state of California, Californians will stick together and help each other out.

I can’t sugar coat things - it’s going to be bad times ahead. I hope you have some family or friends or neighbors you can turn to. So many people are going to be hit and the only way to survive is to come together with trusted people.

Please know you are not alone.

FirstLight

(15,771 posts)
45. yea, I'm in CA and feel a little buffer but still...
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 01:02 AM
Feb 2025

It's not feeling much safer right now at all..

pfitz59

(12,704 posts)
16. I watched the Kash Patel hearings.
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 06:22 PM
Jan 2025

What a loathsome lying pathetic asshole. I mean Grassley. Patel was horrid too.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
18. Hopefully the students.....
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 06:26 PM
Jan 2025

will do a little "decorating" on their own.

I have a fair amount of hope for the generation that's currently in primary school. They were raised very differently than previous generations. I see a world of differences in what my grandchildren have been taught.


Of course, hate, greed, and all those other undesirable character traits always seem to bleed through later in life.
Hopefully, a solid background of acceptance and inclusion will steer them in a different direction. We can't give up hope. We can NEVER give up hope!

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
41. I know there are good people out there of all ages....
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 09:23 PM
Jan 2025

There are young people who are still being raised in racist, sexist ways; but maybe less in various areas!

And some get to "meet" different people on line, if not in person that may eventually change their minds.

Others are taught a more expansive, inclusionnary way of life from the get go by family, /or school. They that pov for life!
(I did from family, school too.)

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
26. American values disappear in front of our eyes.
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 06:49 PM
Jan 2025

Now our values are greed, corruption, hate, revenge, invasion, theft.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
42. We still have Plenty of people Not like that! Unfortunately not enough people voted for x reasons, and damn them!
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 09:27 PM
Jan 2025

And, yes, I have like a 2% skepticism about our '24 election.

Bristlecone

(11,111 posts)
33. Surprised they didn't use red paint.
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 07:27 PM
Jan 2025

And just throw it against the wall to “be more efficient” and save time.

chowder66

(12,245 posts)
36. Good luck to all the white dudes that are going to try to blend in with those terrorist cells.
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 07:39 PM
Jan 2025

BradBo

(1,012 posts)
38. Next up a photo of Muck throwing the Heil Hitler salute to our nation, asshole.
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 08:07 PM
Jan 2025

All those brave men and women that died in the Second World War fighting against Hitler and his Nazi Regime. Screw Musk,I hope all his Space X ships blowup on the launch pad.

Evolve Dammit

(21,777 posts)
39. Fuck 'em all. They get off on rolling back the last 60 years. We will fight and they can go to hell.
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 08:10 PM
Jan 2025

Tweedy

(1,284 posts)
43. Integrity ..... integrity just has to go per the GOP
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 12:48 AM
Feb 2025

What else does anyone need to know?

madaboutharry

(42,033 posts)
52. The NYT may have been duped.
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 09:55 AM
Feb 2025

This scene doesn’t look authentic to be. The man is not using professional equipment. How did he get the paint on the roller? Did he just dip it in the can? Not an inch of painters’ tape. A tiny little strip of some material on the floor rather than an actual drop cloth. The man is standing at an awkward angle and dressed inappropriately. There isn’t even a paint stick in sight to stir the paint. Nope.

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