Elon Musk has taken over the finances of the United States

[edhopper]

He has closed out the Government workers and is having his people do whatever they have planned.
I am not optimistic that there will anything but a whimper from the Press or our Party leaders.
Some hand wringing and head shaking, but in the end we will watch our National Treasure be robbed in broad daylight.
I might have gotten my last Social Security check.

[yellow dahlia]

1. Is there any reporting yet that he has actually gained access to the Treasury?

There is a tsunami of information to keep track of today.

[edhopper]

3. The OPM

is the where Treasury checks are written.
Musk now controls it.

[Ms. Toad]

9. The OPM (office of personnel management) is not the treasury. n/t

[edhopper]

17. He is also taking over

The GSA

[Ms. Toad]

20. The GSA is also not the Treasury. n/t

[edhopper]

21. Fine

No worries. Everything is great. They aren't stealing any money.
Nothing to see, carry on.

[Ms. Toad]

22. There are enough bad things that are actually happening,

Overwhelming the actual bad things with fake news isn't helpful. Spending time fact-checking our side that could be spent getting a handle on anything that can be done makes matters worse.

[edhopper]

24. He has taken over the OPM

Will do the same at the GSA, and had the top Treasury official resign.
Ignore this at our peril.

[Ms. Toad]

26. Still not the treasury - and it was **a** not **the** top treasury official.

And, again, there is enough ACTUAL bad stuff going on. It is not helpful to run around screaming the sky is falling, even if there is a rainstorm and flooding going on. Work on protection from the rain and floods - rather than bemoaning the fact that no one has any energy to build a dome to hold the sky up.

[PatSeg]

27. Ali Velshi is covering the Treasury Dept story

on The Last Word (sitting in for Lawrence O'Donnell). It is a Washington Post article. It is really hard to keep up, so much has happened today.

I recorded the show, the treasury dept story is in the first segment.

[Lemons UK]

32. Correct. Doesn't fit the hysterical narrative though.

[yellow dahlia]

18. You may be confusing OMB and OPM.

OPM is the Office of Personnel Management. It is HR for the Federal employees.

There is currently a take over at OMB (Office of Management and Budget) as well.

However, Musk needs access to the Treasury to mess with our Social Security checks. Musk (and his team) has indeed been trying to get access to the payment systems at Treasury. The senior official at Treasury (David Lebryk) quit today because of strife with Musk. Will Musk gain access to the Treasury? Watch this space.

[edhopper]

19. Okay

My details are admittedly inaccurate. But the results will be the same.

[Random Boomer]

40. It's both OMB and OPM

Musk's lackeys are taking over both the treasury mechanisms and the office in charge of Federal employees.

[yellow dahlia]

43. The Treasury is a separate agency from OPM and OMB.

Musk's people have infiltrated OPM. OMB is also under siege, but for now a judge is preventing them from freezing all federal funding and grants.

Musk's "team" has been trying to get control of the payment systems at Treasury. The official standing in their way has now resigned. We need to see what happens next.

[RandomNumbers]

7. There's this

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-aides-lock-government-workers-out-computer-systems-us-agency-sources-say-2025-01-31/

Emphasis added.

WASHINGTON, Jan 31 (Reuters) - Aides to Elon Musk charged with running the U.S. government human resources agency have locked career civil servants out of computer systems that contain the personal data of millions of federal employees, according to two agency officials.
...
Musk, the billionaire Tesla (TSLA.O), opens new tab CEO and X owner tasked by Trump to slash the size of the 2.2 million-strong civilian government workforce, has moved swiftly to install allies at the agency known as the Office of Personnel Management.
The two officials, who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation, said some senior career employees at OPM have had their access revoked to some of the department's data systems.
The systems include a vast database called Enterprise Human Resources Integration, which contains dates of birth, Social Security numbers, appraisals, home addresses, pay grades and length of service of government workers, the officials said.
"We have no visibility into what they are doing with the computer and data systems," one of the officials said. "That is creating great concern. There is no oversight. It creates real cybersecurity and hacking implications."

[Baron2024]

2. Our Main Hope

Our main hope to stop them is a rebellion in the military. Anti-Trump soldiers and officers that are loyal to the Constitution and their Oaths versus pro-Trump soldiers and officers loyal to the Dictator Trump. We need patriot soldiers like General Milley, Lloyd Austin, Malcolm Nance, and Adam Kinzinger to take some action to mobilize the Anti-Trump forces before it is too late. We also need a National Rebellion in support of those Soldiers that are loyal to the Constitution and not to Trump.

[Bluethroughu]

5. General Strike Feb 14 for the love of country!

No work, no buying, no paying bills!

No nothing until trump and his ad.inistration resign!

[Norbert]

13. AT the rate they are going, will Feb. 14 be too late?

[Bluethroughu]

14. It's a hard date to gain solidarity for love and peace.

[AllyCat]

35. 50501! Feb 5th, all 50 states capitols, one day.

Buy nothing. Consume no news. No internet or tv.

[Blue Full Moon]

23. I wouldn't bet on that

[Bluethroughu]

6. Asperger's syndrome has zero to do with his psychopathy.

[RandomNumbers]

8. You are wrong and should delete this post.

Asperger's, or any other form of autism, has NOTHING to do with this.

[MontanaMama]

10. Wow.

This is offensive. Please delete.

[Meowmee]

11. What are D doing to stop this/ him?

What is anyone doing?

[edhopper]

15. Nothing

I have seen.

[Meowmee]

16. I can think of some things

[bronxiteforever]

12. Sieg Heil Musk is doing his Nazi thing

Unelected with no security clearance, he has access to the US checkbook. How can anyone believe the US economy will be stable and a safe investment? My advice stop spending and save what you can. This is going nowhere good.

[Blue Full Moon]

25. He's sick

I can't believe the people who think he isn't there to steal money. He's an addict. Money is his god. He wants all of it.

[ancianita]

28. No OP link to confirm this, huh? Links matter.

It's not over yet. And no, our party leaders are NOT whimpering. They're doing their jobs they swore an oath to do.

[edhopper]

29. Here

https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/31/elon-musk-is-reportedly-taking-control-of-the-inner-workings-of-us-government-agencies/

[kacekwl]

30. Apparently republicans are ok with this.

I've heard nothing about this from media who should be screaming breaking news at the top of their lungs along with democrats. "we'll see what happens"

[pioche4]

31. I've had the same thought

The lack of candor to use the word plunder re what is happening is astonishing. They’ll hook up the treasury to some crypto account and off our country’s treasure will go. It makes me sick.

Tulsi will do the same re our intelligence. We will be standing naked in the rain.

[Cheezoholic]

34. He CANNOT stop SS or Medicare or any monies whatsoever. ONLY CONGRESS CAN. And he doesnt have the key

to the Treasury because there isn't one nor is there a big bank account or any of the insane crap I've seen today. If it was that easy to hijack all the money in the government we'd all be walking back and forth to dirty rivers for water. And be living in some Mad Max Sci Fy world.

This shit being spread around is like left wing QANON. Don't believe it. The point is fear. Don't fall for it.

[Bluethroughu]

37. He stopped it the other day without Congress!

[Cheezoholic]

42. What stopped the other day was under the perview of the executive branch to stop

What wasn't didn't. Most of what they look to be doing today is collecting verifiable lists of civil workers to scare them and their families and firing Dept. Heads, which many are under the executives jurisdiction, nothing we can do about that. I am mainly talking about these articles about Musk trying to access "payment systems" scaring people who don't understand how the treasury works. Theres no safe to rob, no pin number to steal. Yes there's some skeevy shit going on but these guys cant halt SS or Medicare payments without Congress.

Now if there is any truth to "servers" being installed in different divisions "head quarters" that implies physical machines being brought in and installed on the networks. That would worry me like mad if it turns out to be true. I find it doubtful though as this isnt 2010. Most "servers" nowadays are hosted within government data centers in a closed government intranet, at least important ones. Some of those articles made it sound like people were bringing in server computers to set up. I find that very doubtful but like I said if that is true in some instances it violates federal government cybersecurity laws at some level I would think and would worry me greatly.

[Bluethroughu]

44. Trump administration goes to court on Feb 3rd

For the stay.

[Cheezoholic]

46. The OMB freeze has been rescinded. What you are referencing is for a court to specify what the executive can and cant do

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal-funding-freeze-student-loans-snap-medicaid/
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/28/trump-medicaid-funding-freeze-paused.html

[kacekwl]

49. You have a lot more

confidence in those in charge of running the 3 branches of government than I do.

[Emile]

36. What are the odds a military coup plays out in 2025?

[Tweedy]

38. The unelected South African

stole the private information of all government employees and is sitting like a spider inside the GSA’s monitoring system.

The resignation “offer” is illegal. It cannot be fulfilled. He is doing his stupid best to unleash the four horses of the apocalypse because he wants to build a pyramid* for himself using our treasury. He sent resignation letters to all air traffic controllers and even the men and women who repair our military equipment. His brains appear to have been mush-ified by Mayor London Breed saving more San Franciscans during Covid than any other American city.

* send people to Mars to live like mole rats without food or oxygen. The city will be called the dump of America

[SleeplessinSoCal]

39. He legally can't do this. Can he?

This is beyond insane. But maybe this is the bridge too far by the greedy bigots.

[Random Boomer]

41. Whether or not it's legal is not relevant anymore

The degree to which people are clinging to the notion that legality is an obstacle is a sign they're not grasping what is actually going down.

[Wifes husband]

45. Absolutely

I have been saying this for months now. These people do not care if something is legal.

What Andrew Jackson did that created the "trail of tears" was not legal. He did it anyway. Terrible crime and he got away with it, and is still admired by some idiots.

We never learn

[misanthrope]

47. And who did Trump enter office in 2017 saying he admired?

Andrew Jackson

[Wifes husband]

48. My point exactly