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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump and his allies are dismantling America
On every one of the last 11 days, Trump has shattered another piece of our government, our Constitution and our way of life.
Many believe he's doing this because he's crazy. Yes, he's crazy, but what we're seeing happen is the implementation of Project 2025, the blueprint for a fascist takeover of America.
Trump is ignoring congress, the courts and public opinion because he, and those behind him, don't give a damn about rules, or norms. Step One of their plan is to destroy the existing government. And they intend to replace it with their own authoritarian regime.
Many know what's going on and oppose it. But with spineless elected Republicans falling into line, (out of fear or true belief), how can this hostile takeover be stopped? The Democrats, have no power or megaphone. They are helpless. And we the public? Exactly what's to be done when our enemies control all the levers of power.
IMO, we will end up in either a "neighbor-vs-neighbor Civil War," or as slaves to the oligarchs and the "Dear Leader," along with those who planned it all.
Sorry to be so negative, but this is where we are. It sucks, but it's our new reality.
Disagree with me all you want, but point out where I'm wrong or misguided. And if you have a solution or a road that takes us out of this reign of destruction and terror, let's hear it.
GPV
(73,366 posts)over our plastic-laden landfills and rocks.
Irish_Dem
(79,414 posts)Future historians and archaeologists puzzling over what they see and learn.
The single most important democracy in the history of the world, flips to fascism over night.
And they also see a small percentage of the population living like Kings, the rest scrambling to survive.
GPV
(73,366 posts)Irish_Dem
(79,414 posts)I would rather not be associated with the group of humans which destroyed the greatest democracy in the
history of the planet, and contributed to life ending on the planet.
I agree that there must be life on other planets somewhere.
But if they are all like humans they destroy themselves quickly.
Earth is 4.5 billion years old. How many times have humans destroyed themselves and
come back to do it over and over again?
Yes. This would explain the Fermi paradox.
Cyrano
(15,388 posts)the lead character is asked what she would you say if she encountered an alien.
Her response was: "I'd ask them how they did it."
"Did what?"
"How they survived their adolescence."
It seems we're well into the race between maturing as a species, or totally destroying ourselves. Too bad evolution works so slowly.
Irish_Dem
(79,414 posts)The earth is 4.5 billion years old.
Humans only appeared 2-6 million years ago.
Modern humans only 200,000 years ago.
Besides, theoretical physicists think time is relative to where
you are sitting in space and how fast you are going.
I don't think this is the first time earthlings have blown themselves up.
CrispyQ
(40,615 posts)Nothing against the actors, just the script sucked. Big time.
2naSalit
(99,720 posts)A layer over the entire planet consisting of lead and plastic.
Irish_Dem
(79,414 posts)It is not negativity it is reality.
Like it or not.
Well stated.
LiberalLoner
(11,467 posts)Wicked Blue
(8,410 posts)Blue states must make preparations to secede. Possibly join Canada.
That's the only possibility I can see.
GPV
(73,366 posts)Wicked Blue
(8,410 posts)However removing the flow of tax dollars from seceding blue states will seriously hurt the red states
GPV
(73,366 posts)DSandra
(1,696 posts)DSandra
(1,696 posts)Better living in a blue state than in the Dark Ages forever.
Freddie
(10,040 posts)Been checking out possibly affordable real estate in NY state (were retired). Upstate is red but I imagine any succession would be along state lines.
Beringia
(5,327 posts)LisaL
(47,343 posts)NT
gab13by13
(31,063 posts)Town halls to explain to everyone what Project 2025 will do to them. We need a movement, but it needs to happen now before Trump/Musk outlaw town halls.
There will be no whistleblowers in government, Musk will monitor their communications. This government will be so secretive so that the truth never comes out.
Anyone criticizing threads like this as doom and gloom are pushing right wing talking points. Don't worry, be happy.
DSandra
(1,696 posts)Unfettered Capitalism created people so powerful that they could buy America. It was the stupidest thing to allow people to acquire so much power.
Cyrano
(15,388 posts)Kind of late in the game to "stop them."
Their greatest weapon is the Republican propaganda machine which has been built over the past 40+ years. We can't put something like that together overnight.
erronis
(22,492 posts)if not totally disrupted.
Of course many of us won't be able to get electricity either so getting online will be a memory of the past.
ananda
(34,310 posts)I wonder what they will do when all the bodies and
disasters start piling up...
and they will.
YodaMom2
(148 posts)First, theyll deny that bodies are piling up, and question the citizenrys patriotism that they would trust their lying eyes over the words of Dear Leader.
Then, theyll admit there may be *some* bodies in the streets, but it couldnt be helped and its not nearly as bad as those traitorous agitators would have you believe.
Finally, theyll not only acknowledge the bodies in the streets but say the bodies number in the MILLIONS, not thousands or even tens of thousands - and its all the fault of *fill in the marginalized group*, whom we must now destroy to protect ourselves.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
Wingus Dingus
(9,173 posts)And so far, no.
efhmc
(16,062 posts)state (Ann was governor then.) Something I can actually do which does not involve throwing money away.
OneGrassRoot
(23,927 posts)Shut down the Senate with every procedural tool possible.
Refuse to move ahead with confirmation hearings.
JUST SAY NO. lol
Too many are still doing politics as usual. Thats part of why were here, at risk of complete dissolution of our democracy, as many of them warned while campaigning!
I hope they come out in unison swinging after electing a new DNC chair but they havent given me much to have such hope.
Cyrano
(15,388 posts)Trump & Co. can completely ignore the Democrats and the entire congress. And when he does, the only counter action is to bring lawsuits which take time to play out. TIME TO PLAY OUT. Time is our enemy and their friend. It's why they are moving so quickly.
When/If any lawsuit comes to fruition, we all might well have yokes around our necks. Project 2025 calls for a 180 day conclusion to the transformation of government. America can be enslaved before any judge can get his/her pants on.
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OneGrassRoot
(23,927 posts)I've slowly come to the conclusion that people, including those in positions of power, aren't nearly as intelligent as I've always thought. Not many think of the long game. For the wealthiest and most power hungry, I don't think of the things you just mentioned. They just want to rape and pillage NOW.
I think we can look to Russia for this and how the oligarchs have fared v the citizens. I know our societies didn't start off in the same place when the oligarchy took hold but there will likely be similarities.
erronis
(22,492 posts)Remember the ghettos before the physical purges and death camps.
Initech
(107,245 posts)The Heritage Foundation must be declared an enemy of the United States and extinguished. The Federalist Society, too. Fuck all of them.
yellow dahlia
(4,302 posts)I wonder about those saying "stop with the doom and gloom", lately. Really? What part of what is going on is not doom and gloom. It is worse than doom and gloom - it is a full blown dystopian nightmare. It is a take over. It is a coup.
Why the hell has no one figured out a way to stop it. The grifter is committing crimes. Musk is committing crimes. And i believe they engaged in election rigging to get there.
So Cyrano - you are not misguided. You were understated, if anything.
PortTack
(35,810 posts)Encourage ppl to take action. Ranting on without a plan is exactly what they want. It makes us look and more importantly feel weak and helpless
WE ARE NOT!
So yeah everyone its time to stop ranting and take action
Phone your congress ppl
Stop engaging MAGA, its counterproductive
Speak up on all SM groups you engage with
Join resistance groups, even if just online
MOST IMPORTANT
.STOP BUYING ANYTHING EXCEPT NECESSITIES
So yes
stop the doom and gloom and TAKE ACTION!
Cyrano
(15,388 posts)one needs to understand the true nature of the issue. My guess is that many don't understand what I've stated in the OP.
I'm not trying to depress people. I'm outlining where we are and where we are seemingly headed. They've been planning this coup for a long time and we're just now getting into the game. You can't battle them if you don't know what you're fighting.
I wish I could put the OP in a more public forum to reach as many people as possible.
RockRaven
(18,628 posts)I don't see a way out.
Initech
(107,245 posts)While this country is burning. Seriously we need to kick him and his stupid cult and his shitty news network out of our government now and get the adults back in charge!
Baron2024
(1,492 posts)States need to hire fired FBI Agents.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219972050
Baron2024
(1,492 posts)Blue States should act to resist the Trump Regime. The following link explains how in greater detail--
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219971808
andym
(6,049 posts)they are literally implementing a revolution against what Trump calls a swamp, but what most Americans understand to be their critical government infrastructure serving the people.
William Seger
(12,166 posts)... replacing our democracy with a dictatorship. Rachel Maddow has brought this to the attention of a much wider audience than it had before.
KT2000
(21,907 posts)China had the Cultural Revolution that cleaned out government and installed no-nothings in positions of authority. One result was the starvation of the country. The ag. director knew nothing about agriculture, just scaring people. Doctors were replaced with store clerks so lots of people died. The social order was destroyed.
Then there was Hitler's murderous redesign of German society.
Most people will be subdued with fear so what to do if we will not be subdued? Trying to figure that out.