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I've been in the computer industry for over 30 years and I have never heard of a computer crime that even comes close. eLoon's ransacking of the OPM computers only to be followed up by ransacking of computers at Treasury will essentially give eLoon the keys to the kingdom.
He has broken just about every computer crime on the books.
The seriousness of these events cannot be understated and should be ringing like a 4-alarm fire in Congress. If a Democrat had done that they would be screaming for blood.
We need to demand action.
Lovie777
(23,009 posts)system is now under musk
Damn
Captain Zero
(8,908 posts)If the slightest damage occurs to those systems.
pdxflyboy
(934 posts)n/t
slightlv
(7,790 posts)in the form of a worm or tracking bug placed inside the software. Elon's probably made it so he can access it from anywhere in the world.
trump ain't the president, and we need to make this loud and clear -- a white, South African neo-Nazi is actually running the presidential suite -- from anywhere in the world he wants to sit. trump is just the patsy for when it all goes south... and, according to the reading I did on New Years, that's going to be April this year. Isn't that one of those "quarters" that are so important to finance?
2naSalit
(102,857 posts)Hangin's too good for him.
rubbersole
(11,225 posts)2naSalit
(102,857 posts)rubbersole
(11,225 posts)...wouldn't protect his necktie party from working.
BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)Charging Triceratops
(441 posts)Call your local insipid TV stations.
Botany
(77,348 posts). steal the election.
yellow dahlia
(5,930 posts)Botany
(77,348 posts)@ least 3.5 million voters were removed prior
to the election by allowing challenges to a voter's right to be a registered voter (I bet you it was higher) and Musk and the GRU were into
the central tabulators.
And BTW our media being in the pockets of
the GOP didn't help along with citizen's united
that allowed unlimited spending to spread misinformation too.
stillcool
(34,407 posts)and each election they are more prepared than the last. They're great thieves, and very methodical. They have great think-tanks, and institutes, and connectivity. I just know the Koch Bros., etal, are still part of the picture, but it's like they all just went away. Millions upon millions of dollars and not a peep. Vast right-wing network under cover.
Botany
(77,348 posts)We haven't had a legitimately elected Republican President or the legacy of
cheating since 1956. Cheating is in their
DNA.
stillcool
(34,407 posts)I've watched you. For some reason I'm feeling a little melancholy about this place tonight. So much stuff.
yellow dahlia
(5,930 posts)But I'm running toward the truth, rather than away.
I'm glad for this community in these times.
Botany
(77,348 posts)The theft and cheating were so blatant and the media refused to cover it.
stillcool
(34,407 posts)And they still trot Ken Blackwell out on election nights. Sick. In hindsight, we knew more then about our elections being hacked than we do now. So much more doing. People really do not want to hear about it now. Makes everything that's going on kind of anti-climatic, and really, really sad.
Botany
(77,348 posts)I was at a public hearing where over 100 people gave testimony on how their vote or
their ability to vote was tampered with but the only thing that was reported about the
hearing was that a republican operative pretending to be on the Democrats side marked
peoples heads with an X as in my vote was crossed out.
Now it is, Why are you spreading conspiracy theories? You can see that meme being
pushed by concern trolls here on DU all the time.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)Election since Kasich and DeWine is a public crook. He does not even bother to hide it.
littlemissmartypants
(33,714 posts)Everything you need to know about statistical anomalies in the 2024 US presidential election.
https://www.thenumbersarewrong2024.com/
❤️pants
yellow dahlia
(5,930 posts)Thank you!
I'm angry and sick to my stomach.
Hugin
(37,849 posts)Definitely.
keepthemhonestO
(628 posts)I am not sure why people trying to say it didn't happen when there's a video of trump admitting that it did. Tell people or harassing us and saying it didn't happen.
Hugin
(37,849 posts)But, your clarification and agreement are appreciated.
Somehow, Musk is morally above election interference, but not enough for doing what is essentially an illegal coup against the core functions of the United States government in defiance of the very Constitution.
Yeah, no. Its gaslighting.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,316 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,889 posts)Probably because Elon told him the computers would vote the way he wanted.
So, Elon assured Trump would not go to prison and Trump handed over the nation to Elon. Look quick, before the money is gone along with our rights and future.
By the way, did any MSM report about all the fancy homes Elon was buying for all his ex-wive and offspring in that one tight, easy to defend enclave outside Huston? That story fell off the radar and down the memory hole mighty fast.
Charging Triceratops
(441 posts)... and nothing from the MSM "news" clowns.
bluestarone
(22,199 posts)As to a way forward i would love to see our best democrats (on their own maybe with go fund me) select a group of the BEST computer experts, and Go over EVERY scenario possible to try and figure out what musk could have possibly done. THIS has to be dealt with BEFORE the 2026 election. Maybe headed by Mark Elias? (that's who i'd choose)
Amaryllis
(11,304 posts)bluestarone
(22,199 posts)I still feel like this needs to be discussed by computer experts. I guess he and some others did look at it? I'd like to know who was all involved in that decision. In my heart i feel something was done to change something. I'll have to check out about Mark's decision as to why he feels that way.
yellow dahlia
(5,930 posts)He is in there now with his "team".
I imagine what he is doing will result in us being permanently compromised.
Bessent is a traitor.
Why isn't anyone preventing this? SO many levels of wrong...and criminal.
Snarkoleptic
(6,236 posts)Muck Fusk.
Trueblue Texan
(4,470 posts)I think he is doing all the horrible things he's doing on Putin's order. What coherent human being could think any of these things are good for our nation?
bronxiteforever
(11,212 posts)Baron2024
(1,492 posts)The remaining FBI need to seek a warrant for the arrest of Elon Musk.
hedda_foil
(16,986 posts)The AG can approve/disapprove any federal prosecution.
Baron2024
(1,492 posts)At least attempt it to put it on the record that Musk and the Regime are acting criminally. If the AG dismissed the investigation it would be a clear case of corruption. The public would see it and hear it. If Musk were investigated and charged it would be national news and fuel for the Media War.
jmbar2
(7,995 posts)As long as rule of law no longer matters, take him down.
slightlv
(7,790 posts)take down one of the tech bros, and the others may straighten up their crap. Besides, elon is one of the most dangerous being so close to the levers of power.
Baron2024
(1,492 posts)One major hope to stop them is a lawful rebellion in the military. Soldiers and officers take Oaths to Defend the Constitution, not to follow illegal orders from Dictators like Trump and Musk. If the Military are given illegal orders, their legal duty is to disregard unlawful orders. Anti-Trump soldiers and officers that are loyal to the Constitution and their Oaths might oppose Pro-Trump soldiers and officers loyal to the Dictator Trump. We need patriot soldiers like General Milley, Lloyd Austin, Malcolm Nance, and Adam Kinzinger to take some action to mobilize the Anti-Trump forces before it is too late.
littlemissmartypants
(33,714 posts)...Snip...That whenever any
Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right
of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
Snip...
But when a long
train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object
evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their
right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new
Guards for their future security.
Baron2024
(1,492 posts)Great post.
littlemissmartypants
(33,714 posts)yellow dahlia
(5,930 posts)littlemissmartypants
(33,714 posts)Cheezoholic
(3,722 posts)WAPO article...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/01/elon-musk-treasury-payments-system/
No Paywall
https://archive.ph/PJkkY
yellow dahlia
(5,930 posts)Blue Full Moon
(3,497 posts)orangecrush
(30,338 posts)Apparently I'm not going to get any.
As Rump said about higher prices due to tariffs, "They'll understand".
Translation - "Fuck 'em".
wolfie001
(7,691 posts)US Dollar vs. BitCoin and the openly criminal billionaire oligarchs?
littlemissmartypants
(33,714 posts)Co-mingling of the Treasury, after they increase it with the tariffs, and crypto. Then the oligarchs can split the money and become the world's first trillionaires. That's their ultimate plan. Putting the tariffs in place starts it in motion. Tariffs make a lot of money for the Treasury. Trump loves that.
Sound crazy? It is. But it's their plan. And they just may pull it off.
SEC Crypto 2.0: Acting Chairman Uyeda Announces Formation of New Crypto Task Force
Commissioner Hester Peirce will lead agency-wide effort
For Immediate Release
2025-30
Washington D.C., Jan. 21, 2025
Today SEC Acting Chairman Mark T. Uyeda launched a crypto task force dedicated to developing a comprehensive and clear regulatory framework for crypto assets. Commissioner Hester Peirce will lead the task force. Richard Gabbert, Senior Advisor to the Acting Chairman, and Taylor Asher, Senior Policy Advisor to the Acting Chairman, will serve as the task forces Chief of Staff and Chief Policy Advisor, respectively.
https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2025-30
flashman13
(2,410 posts)kimbutgar
(27,257 posts)Re elected by rigging their elections via computer software hacks.
Intractable
(2,115 posts)Ransacking the treasury can only serve the ultra wealthy.
Baron2024
(1,492 posts)A link to a list of some ways to Resist and Rebel--
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219975841
CatWoman
(80,290 posts)Musk appointees allegedly plugged their own email server into OPM network, breaking data security rules.
When officials working for the incoming Trump administration decided they wanted to email the entire federal workforce last week, they didnt hang about.
Far from it: A new private class action lawsuit brought by two anonymous US executive branch employees alleges that they simply turned up at the HQ of the US Office of Personnel Management (OPM), which handles HR, and demanded to plug in their email server and get going as soon as possible.
The one person who could have refused authorization for such a move Melvin Brown II, who took control of the agencys IT systems only a week before had already been sidelined.
The suit was filed after OPM sent two test emails to an estimated 2.3 million federal employees in a way that, the suit alleges, broke the E-Government Act of 2002 and was inherently insecure. Those rules require that a Privacy Impact Assessment (PIA) be carried out first.
The day after the suit was filed, the OPM sent another email to federal employees, inviting them to resign.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3812509/us-government-sued-after-mass-emails-to-federal-workforce-allegedly-sent-from-insecure-server.html
Diraven
(1,907 posts)They're not even going to bother passing a law for it. Musk can now personally prop up every cryptocurrency the bros own with buys directly from the US Treasury.
littlemissmartypants
(33,714 posts)SEC Crypto 2.0: Acting Chairman Uyeda Announces Formation of New Crypto Task Force
Commissioner Hester Peirce will lead agency-wide effort
For Immediate Release
2025-30
Washington D.C., Jan. 21, 2025
Today SEC Acting Chairman Mark T. Uyeda launched a crypto task force dedicated to developing a comprehensive and clear regulatory framework for crypto assets. Commissioner Hester Peirce will lead the task force. Richard Gabbert, Senior Advisor to the Acting Chairman, and Taylor Asher, Senior Policy Advisor to the Acting Chairman, will serve as the task forces Chief of Staff and Chief Policy Advisor, respectively.
Snip...more...
https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2025-30
Botany
(77,348 posts)They aim to burn this country to the ground
and loot and steal everything and then turn this country over to Putin.
Crypto where you give them real money and
you get a worthless place in the cyber network. It is a scam.
Say it again the election was dirty.
tableturner
(1,838 posts)"If a Democrat had done that they would be screaming for blood.
We need to demand action."
Democrats don't scream for blood. That is not nice.
debsy
(950 posts)We all know they will stop at nothing to get money and power. Dumpster has been granted permission by SCOTUS to commit unlimited crimes while President (I use quotes because youll never convince me that he and elonia didnt steal the election) so maybe they are planning the largest heist in the history of the world. We are currently living in a futuristic action movie where the bad oligarchs are imposing their will on us plebeians.
Joinfortmill
(21,188 posts)Response to angrychair (Original post)
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IronLionZion
(51,284 posts)kentuck
(115,413 posts)Give him access to $6 trillion dollars and the names of everyone that gets a dime of government benefits.
Has everyone lost their frigging minds!
KPN
(17,379 posts)all over again, only on steroids. Outside of civil lawsuits and what would be the grounds and standing for civil claims? nothing can happen until January 2027.
Will it then be too late?
Sigh.
lastlib
(28,286 posts)...but without the drama......
MayReasonRule
(4,099 posts)Demand is even an understatement though...
We must compel action!