51st state

[Morbius]

Come on! We love you! We want you to join us, become part of our union!

Or we'll punish you!

Now, is anyone really surprised that Canada takes a sober look at the United States and firmly refuses?

Why would anyone think tariffs are going to make Canada want to be part of our country? We've been (mostly) mismanaging ours from the start. All right, I get that the dear leader is living in a reality of his own; always has. But why would his supporters believe it? It's just plain crazy.

[Baron2024]

1. I Would Add

Trump wanting to make Canada the 51st state is crazy and stupid, but also wouldn't it be the 51st through 60th states? Canada is vast and made up of 10 provinces. If each province were a new state, that would be ten more states. The Fascists behind Trump don't care of course. They just want Canada's resources.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

5. Please see post #4

[Crunchy Frog]

6. They would never allow Canada to be ten states.

[Mountainguy]

2. I'm rooting for them to join, but not at the 51st state...

I want them to be states 51-63 and bring 2 Senators and a shit ton of house reps with them.

Even the conservative party up there are much more in line with our Democrats than anything in the Republican party. I think we'd end up sweeping almost all of them.

Figure while we're at it we might as well add a few SC justices, after the next Presidential election of course, just to bring the numbers up to reflect these new judicial districts.

How many new EC votes does that add? Probably something like 60ish?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

4. Turn it around. US join Canada, then you'll see why your suggestion is so repulsive.

Would you dissolve the US and have it join Mexico? Indonesia?

Don't you realize that Canadians love their country?

All this flippant discussion about joining the US, as if only stupid countries would not, is really arrogant American exceptionalism.

Do you not love your country? If you don't, then leave and renounce your citizenship. If you do love the US, then please stop with the background shitty assumption that other countries' peoples don't love their own countries because the US is obviously so much better.

Joining the US is a non-starter, so please just drop it. You (the USA) are causing enough deep problems for the good people of Canada who did not ask for any of this. Do not add the arrogance of casually discussing 51st or whatever state to our troubles.

[Mountainguy]

7. Its called a joke

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. Yeah, I know. It's a sensitive time, so hear me out, please.

It's a joke that I have flipped in the past or posted the Canadian version of it: United Provinces of Canada and the Jesusland Confederacy. But it became hollow when tRump began talking about the 51st state. Even then initially I took a joking approach, much as you have, pointing out the EC votes, the extra blue Senators, etc.

But it soon become a sour joke when it became clear tRump is serious so I stopped a couple of months ago.

Right now, tRump has started a war against Canada, a trade-tariff war. Right now, we feel under attack from a country that embraced us until tRump knifed us in the back.

The embrace has always been a mix of a hale-fellow-well-met friendship and a crushing bear hug of US cultural and investment imperialism. Canada has had to work hard and expensively for my whole life to maintain a distinct culture and avoid being swamped and drowned by US culture.

So, I may have over-reacted a bit, but not by much. The "joke" feels like it is part of the attack these days, especially when it seemed to be so cavalierly delivered, as if it were only natural that tRump's claim was right, that everybody in the whole world wants to be American. Perhaps I was overly sensitive, but I do think it would be best if DU Americans had a bit more sensitivity during these times. Ask yourself how you'd react in 2042 if a dominant China was "joking" about making Hawaii, Alaska, and the West Coast provinces of Greater China while the airwaves were filled with C-pop, and executives and school children were all scrambling to take immersion Chinese lessons.

[Morbius]

3. That's assuming there will still be elections.

Which is uncertain.