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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"I'm a Federal Worker. People Don't Understand the Level of Heist Elon Musk Is Perpetrating."
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/02/elon-musk-us-aid-social-security-data-heist-trump.htmlNo paywall link
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On Friday night, reports emerged that Elon Musks aides had tussled with Office of Personnel Management and Treasury staffers while demanding access to troves of information about federal employees. And on Sunday, it was reported that Musk had ousted top officials at the U.S. Agency for International Development for refusing him access to classified security and personnel information.
Those of us within the ranks of the federal workforce looked on in horror at all of this. Those outside the federal government might not understand the gravity of this situation. Think of OPM and the Treasurys Bureau of the Fiscal Service as the valet sheds of the federal government. Theyre not flashy or big, but they hold all the keys. OPM maintains the private information of federal civil servantsbank codes, addresses, insurance information, retirement accounts, employment records. The Treasurys system processes every payment to everyone from grandmothers waiting for their Social Security check to cancer researchers working to crack the cure. Now theres a ham-fisted goon in an ill-fitting valet attendants coat rummaging in broad daylight through all of the keysall of that private information, previously given in trust, handled with care, and regulated by law.
Now is the moment to act. We should not be waiting until the perps are driving off with every Bimmer in the lot. This information demands careful management, and transparency around its collection and use. Its inadvertent disclosure could irreparably harm millions of American families. And its being taken by people that still cant figure out how to send an email from within the government without having it flagged as a likely phishing attempt. Someone needs to do something.
But while a few civil servants have bravely stepped into the fray, for the most part federal workers can only watch. We have been effectively silenced. The administration issued gag orders to many agencies, curbing their official communications with the general public, regulated communities, or even sometimes one another. Career staffers are struggling to keep up with lists of who theyre allowed to talk to and who theyre not. And the administration has made it chillingly clear it is willing to fire people without any legal justification whatsoever. It cannot be up solely to the cubicle workers of the federal government to stare down certain retribution in order to delay lawless power grabs. Many of us in the platoons of the federal workforce cannot afford to be dismissed, however illegal the dismissal might be. Litigating our termination is also not a privilege for which we have the resources or time.
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SheltieLover
(80,442 posts)Americans are ABSOLUTELY clueless.
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ancianita
(43,307 posts)SheltieLover
(80,442 posts)dalton99a
(94,109 posts)TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)Autumn
(48,961 posts)Republican don't fucking care.
gab13by13
(32,316 posts)erronis
(23,869 posts)They'll find out when their heating bills rise by 100%. Or a trip to the lumber yard will end without being able to get any 2x4s.
Most of them are dazed and have plenty to worry themselves about - housing, car expenses, kids, food, etc. They can probably be easily told that all of the problems in 2025 going forward are because of Old Man Biden and that black dude.
I also know plenty of liberal people who aren't actively monitoring what's going on - for their own mental health or lack of interest.
Apathy Abounds.
Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)Autumn
(48,961 posts)Almost half the country showed up to vote for him. Take it to the bank those who vote for him know what is going on and what he is doing.
Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)Autumn
(48,961 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)Autumn
(48,961 posts)saying that being the leadership of the Democratic party. Hillary got more votes but we don't elected a president by the popular vote. She didn't get the only votes that counted.Trump got them.
Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)Solly Mack
(96,940 posts)Oh, I know.
How to get this fact out there to everyone?
Trueblue Texan
(4,461 posts)do not really understand the full danger of the threat. I need someone to paint the picture more clearly for me. Yes, I am a Social Security recipient .
erronis
(23,869 posts)Everyone has their favorites but mine are EmptyWheel.Net, The Guardian, Heather Cox Richardson.
Beck23
(411 posts)Solly Mack
(96,940 posts)or anything else he wants to do. He may decide to target individuals or groups of people.
If he has a person's medical information, then he can use it to blackmail that person.
If he has access to your direct deposit, then he can stop deposits.
Think of everything that is stored on government computers - he controls a lot of it now.
He's working to control more.
Information really is power, and Musk is being given the motherlode.
He has your SS number and home address. Your contributions to political parties, although not at the Treasury, is public information. With that, and their home addresses he could send the Proud Boys after all Democrats.
Trueblue Texan
(4,461 posts)SheltieLover
(80,442 posts)Nictuku
(4,656 posts)Last Friday I made a big decision to remove my life savings from the TSP (government version of 401k). Now I'm waiting with baited breath to see the $ transferred to my bank account. Maybe I am over reacting, but I can just see Musk&Co drooling over the 963 Billion that is in that retirement fund. This morning, I got an email saying my request is being processed now and I should see the money tomorrow (*whew* so far, according to the normal flow of things)
My monthly income is my measly government annuity (pension) AND my SS (which I paid into for 40 years). If those are screwed with, I'll be in trouble because my TSP would only last a couple of years if it was my only source of money.
I'm still worried about the last 2, but feel pretty certain that my TSP money will come through.
Do you think I over-reacted?
Solly Mack
(96,940 posts)having that much control, that much access, but I can't say for certain what he will do.
I don't trust him or his minions.
The claim is that they are cutting government waste, which no one should believe.
He wouldn't need access to all that information if it was about government waste.
So, what's he really up to?
That's what bothers me.
Joinfortmill
(21,157 posts)Norbert
(7,762 posts)This is sad.
BattleRow
(2,449 posts)Beck23
(411 posts)I am very familiar with national data privacy laws. Musk's breach of these systems are the biggest cyber security breach in the history of the USA. In addition, they copied the data to external drives, which they took. This data will allow anyone to access our financial and medical records wherever they are stored, such as our doctor's records, and our financial records. If you have direct deposits to your checking account for Social Security checks or tax refunds, your checking account information is also in these systems. Now we have no idea who has this data.
HipChick
(25,612 posts)Who knows where that data could end up? Dark Web?
Beck23
(411 posts)slightlv
(7,789 posts)which, with the level of control they're getting ready to exert over our lives, means they can check for any med that could be an abortifacient... even if it's not. They may declare that "D" is a made-up disease and deny all medications for it as fake.
Besides wondering when Elon is going to steal my SS check, tho... I'm concerned about how many more scams are going to be going on out there. Hubby has already been rooked by one that cleaned out our bank account. Information downloaded onto external, unsecured drives, is basically information out there in the wild. Elon will be offered so much money for this info, or caches of it, and you KNOW he won't turn it down. Watch by how much his $$$ goes up over the next few months. And then wonder who has your data.
Beck23
(411 posts)Musk has our Social Security numbers.
Wuddles440
(2,094 posts)with 30 years of both conducting and supervising criminal investigations and, believe me, I do understand the extent of the absolute lawlessness and wanton destruction that we are witnessing in realtime! In the past, what took most authoritarians years to accomplish, this administration may be able to achieve all their critical goals within the first 100 days. Hell, at the rate they're going it may be in 30 days.
Baron2024
(1,492 posts)There is word that a number of FBI Agents are resisting. This is some good news. As a retired federal agent I was wondering what your take is on this? Here is a link to the thread about it--
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19985497
Wuddles440
(2,094 posts)but once Patel takes charge it'll be comply or be fired. They only want personnel who are 100% loyal to their leader and cause. Any oath that was taken to defend the Constitution is no longer applicable as they now owe their fealty to one man.
Baron2024
(1,492 posts)A partial Plan for Lawful Resistance. You may agree or disagree. Constructive comments always appreciated--
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219985541
Betty Boom
(447 posts)When I heard this story, I literally got a chill down my spine because I understood the implications. Bless those security people who bravely physically blocked access but in the end, were unsuccessful.
I was talking earlier to a friend and saying how many of the bed rocks of Federal rules and regulations now seem laughable. The hatch act. Security clearances Records management. Ethics training
Its a very sad day in America and more than half of the country doesnt even realize it
Beck23
(411 posts)He does need to be locked up. Once that is done, the government needs to issue new SS numbers right away.
Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,129 posts)The economic fallout from pausing or ending all this spending, payrolls, jobs, benefits, will be massively massive.
By June, it will be like 2008 all over again.
meadowlander
(5,133 posts)The best we can try to do is board up and disguise the temples and wait for them to finish gorging themselves.
Thanks 2024 electorate!
The cost in taxpayer dollars and the body count from this are both going to be staggering if anyone is left to count and tell the story,
JI7
(93,615 posts)so who are we to question him.
They think he is going to make them wealthy.
Joinfortmill
(21,157 posts)1. I'm going to stand up to these f*ckers. I'm old. My life is almost done, so f*ck 'em.
2. If there are protests near you, join them, but stay as safe as you can.
3. I told my grown children to get passports (they did) and make a plan - they haven't.
4. If you can, keep some cash on hand or at the least keep some extra canned goods.
5. Keep gas in your car.
6. I'm hoping the worst that happens is that my social security check is not deposited, not that money is siphoned out of my account (I doubt this will happen - yet).
7. Try not to be afraid. Speak out against these traitors, but do it wisely.
8. Hug your family.
That's all I can think of. Take care and stay safe.
Initech
(108,772 posts)And he attached himself to Trump because Trump is the kind of worthless asshole who will let him get away with it. Fuck Elon and his money.
