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We did it at a very rough way and I didnt like to do it a rough way, he said, chuckling.
Rachel Bitecofer @RachelBitecofer
CBS NEWS: .. the water released from dams at Lake Kaweah and Lake Success is rushing into a dry lakebed in the Central Valley, where experts say it can't flow to Southern California and will likely go to waste.
Following the deadly wildfires in Los Angeles in January, President Trump ordered the Army Corps of Engineers to release billions of gallons of water from two reservoirs in California's Central Valley, more than 100 miles away from the fire zones.
Mr. Trump had claimed that California withheld water supplies that could have made a difference in fighting the flames. California Gov. Gavin Newsom and other officials disputed those claims.
"There is absolutely no connection between this water and the water needed for firefighting in L.A.," said Peter Gleick, a climate and hydrology expert. "There's no physical connection. There's no way to move the water from where it is to the Los Angeles basin."
Gleick, who co-founded the Pacific Institute, a research center in Oakland, says the move ignores the reality of water management in California.
"The farmers in the basin own the water and that water is stored in these dams in the winter, during the rainy season, so that farmers can use it in the very hot, long, dry summer season," he explained.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-california-water-order-los-angeles/
Adam Schiff @SenAdamSchiff 2h
Stupid. Ridiculous. Dangerous. Wasteful.
Words that only begin to describe the decision to waste billions of gallons of precious water in California.
Link to tweet
Wingus Dingus
(9,173 posts)You do that by withholding post-fire aid and mismanaging their water. Hurts the farmers, hurts the state economy, hurts Californians (you know, our fellow Americans who aren't the enemy).
Meadowoak
(6,606 posts)Asking for a friend.
MotownPgh
(462 posts)those programs
Dem4life1234
(2,533 posts)Imagine a Dem trying to wreck one of those hell hole MAGAt states. Ooo, that would never happen.
BadgerMom
(3,417 posts)Hes threatening Californians with water. Or really the lack of it after he wastes it in his stupid power games. Again, people could die. And hed applaud.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)MotownPgh
(462 posts)it was nothing to do with wild fires
Botany
(77,323 posts)That water is needed late March/early April through October depending on the
crop and soil conditions. My late Grandfather was a fruit grower in southern Oregon
(Ashland) for years who depended on waters that were stored as snow and then
reservoirs during the growing season. Dumping the water now is madness and
designed to hurt the farmers and all of us who buy produce, milk, eggs, or meat.
Trump is a mad man. Winter is more than 1/2 over are they going to get enough
snow and rain to have water for the farmers when they need it?
Initech
(108,778 posts)thinkingagain
(1,350 posts)California should demand that he put the water back😀
bigtree
(94,261 posts)surfered
(13,463 posts)We need to start bringing that acronym back.
AZLD4Candidate
(6,780 posts)seleff
(174 posts)Can't the State close the gates and stop the flow? What's the Army Corps going to do, blow up the dams?
SunSeeker
(58,283 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)The water in those reservoirs belongs to the farmers and lets see who did they vote for? I hear face-eating leopards growling.
Quote from OP
Trump described today how he went about releasing the water.
We did it at a very rough way and I didnt like to do it a rough way, he said, chuckling.
Whether they liked it or not, eh?
Aussie105
(7,920 posts)Or did they go . . . . just following orders, I should be safe from future criticism, right?
Do people realize if everyone gave him the middle finger and ignored him, he'd be powerless?
Rebl2
(17,740 posts)it would not help. Now my question is will it hurt farmers.
sop
(18,614 posts)What worries me the most are the federal employees and members of the military who will follow the imbecile's orders. Today it's roughly wasting water, tomorrow it'll be roughly shipping children off to Guantanamo. "I was just following orders," known as the Nuremberg Defense, isn't valid in a court of law.
sakabatou
(46,145 posts)Norrrm
(5,048 posts)Hassler
(4,921 posts)eppur_se_muova
(41,939 posts)eppur_se_muova
(41,939 posts)Water was released after fires were out. Water is 200 miles from fire area and won't get any closer. Sudden release of water risked catastrophic flooding downstream -- possible fatalities and flooding of productive farmland. Only about one hour's warning, not enough for emergency preparations. No more water to collect now that the rainy season is over, and this lowered the reservoirs too much too provide sufficient water come Summer, so crops will likely die. Water once released can't be recovered -- will just be allowed to evaporate.
Maybe this is a lucky break for a small population of waterfowl, but even then it's only temporary. A totally stupid move by a totally stupid man.
WHEN are people going to start telling Turnip "Yes, SIR !! We did what you said, Sir ! It's all taken care of !" WITHOUT actually doing anything ?? It's not like he'll remember to check.
BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)They attacked and scattered the farm workers. Now they are pissing the water away to try and make their draft-dodging felon look like less of an asshole.
Sick. Sad. Sorryass.
AStern
(849 posts)Unwind Your Mind
(2,347 posts)The good news is that its snowing in Tahoe and raining across most of the state from Santa Cruz north. Its raining in Stockton. Its raining in Reno, too warm for snow but the system is moving in their direction.
So we do still have opportunity to top up those reservoirs, fingers crossed
Eta, this system is warm. We are about 25 miles from the coast and near the end of it here and its about 15 degrees warmer than normal at this time of day.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)spooky3
(38,632 posts)Beringia
(5,507 posts)Beringia
(5,507 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,604 posts)They'll zip their collective lips but they'll complain about the Dems. "Newsom made it happen!"
Turbineguy
(40,073 posts)After all it's the camera opportunities that count.
underpants
(196,493 posts)Id been wondering who owned the water. I read that it was owned and not by the Fed. The Fed maintains the basin and the dam.